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Old 06-24-2008, 07:35 PM
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Well, call me old fashioned but I wish there was some sort of an engagment announcement before such an arrangement was established. However, maybe this is good for Daniel to really see Victoria's life in a different perspective. Maybe he can see if he can live like royalty or not. Once and for all.

I'm not really sure what to think. In a way, I'm thinking the way the media is presenting: they are now more officially living together. But in another way, I feel like this is all being made out to be more then it really is. None of us know the exact feelings on either side or the exact reasoning behind this new arrangement.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:27 PM
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The latest Point De Vue to arrive here has a large section devoted to those couples who have been forever "engaged" One of them is Victoria and Daniel and it also mentions that neither Madeleine nor Carl Philip can marry until Victoria does.
Once upon a time royals were keeping their romances under wraps and surprised everyone. Nowdays we are privy to all the nuances of these relationships and it adds one more "common" touch to the magic. Six years in my view are enough for anyone to know whether they want to marry or move on. JMO
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:38 PM
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It is a really great news. I have been glad to see Mr. Westling accompanying Crown Princess Victoria in Denmark. I hope that the events will unfold faster from now on. I mean that an engagement and wedding are not far off.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:24 AM
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However, maybe this is good for Daniel to really see Victoria's life in a different perspective. Maybe he can see if he can live like royalty or not. Once and for all.
But it´s no secret, that Daniel had stayed at Victoria´s Drottningholm pavillion/apartment most of the time before.
Some even claim, that he just did this move to please the public authorities (who had said on an earlier question by the press, that ppl should be honest about the place, where they really live) and would just store his furniture in the new apartment (which is quite "public"...so easy to photograph), while he would go on to live with Victoria.

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One of them is Victoria and Daniel and it also mentions that neither Madeleine nor Carl Philip can marry until Victoria does.
A few weeks ago Emma Pernald was asked, if this would be true and she said, that it wouldn´t. Her answer seems logically to me...there is no such tradition in Royal houses. And if you feel ready, then you feel ready and don´t look at your siblings...

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Once upon a time royals were keeping their romances under wraps and surprised everyone. Nowdays we are privy to all the nuances of these relationships and it adds one more "common" touch to the magic. Six years in my view are enough for anyone to know whether they want to marry or move on. JMO
Agreed. Royal mags babble all the time about protocol...and that this&that would never be allowed for Royals...and though those young Royals establish every new week new own rules.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:22 PM
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Daniel and Victoria will live separately. Victoria lives in one wing of the castle, Daniel will live in his apartment at the Page House near the castle at the Drottningholm castle estates.
Sounds to me as if Daniel now has his own sphere including office and the possibility to see his own private friends at Drottningholm which he probably will keep even after marriage while he's moving in with Victoria. A kind of alibi-flat which gives him privacy and his own place.
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Daniel stayed at CP Victorias Drottningholm appartment most of the time before

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But it´s no secret, that Daniel had stayed at Victoria´s Drottningholm pavillion/apartment most of the time before.
I came to the conclusion that this is an invention. I think that Daniel Westling didnt stay at CP Victorias Drottningholm pavillion/appartment most of the time before.

Why? Because the swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt would know about that and he doesnt.(Westlings flytt – en nyhet för Reinfeldt | Nyheter | Aftonbladet ).

The only real source for this (Daniel had stayed at Victoria´s Drottningholm pavillion/apartment most of the time before), as far as I can see, is Jenny Alexandersson - a journalist from Svensk Damtidning.

Source: Ålandstidningen följer kronprinsessan Victorias dag - Ålandstidningen

Scroll down to 12.32 (time)

Klockan 12:32 Jenny Alexandersson från Svensk Damtidning berättar: Victoria bor officiellt ensam i Sjöflygeln, två rum o kök, på Drottningholms slott. Men Daniel Westling är där mest hela tiden. Han är helt accepterad av kungen o drottningen.

12.32 (time): Jenny Alexandersson from Svensk Damtidning explains:
Victoria lives official alone in "Sjöflygeln" (Sea-tract), two rooms and kitchen, in Drottningholm palace. But Daniel Westling is there "most all the time". He is fully accepted of the king and the queen.

This is the only real source I found.

Sorry, but phrases like "it is well known", "everybody says" and so on are no real source. For example journalist Herman Lindquist "all have known that" (BEVISEN: Nu flyttar Victoria och Daniel ihop | Nyheter | Aftonbladet) - the prime minister didn't know that.
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:59 PM
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I came to the conclusion that this is an invention. I think that Daniel Westling didnt stay at CP Victorias Drottningholm pavillion/appartment most of the time before.

Why? Because the swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt would know about that and he doesnt.
Why do you think that the prime minister would know if Daniel would have "lived" with Victoria? It´s not like that Victoria would call Fredrik Reinfeldt and say "just for your information Daniel lives with me - secretly" . The prime minister would only get involved when Victoria and Daniel gets engaged.

I certainly belives that he have lived quite alot with Victoria and vice versa but mostly he with her, and i think that almost all people in Sweden would agree with me - I mean why would they be any different (in private) then the rest of us?
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:30 PM
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But it´s no secret, that Daniel had stayed at Victoria´s Drottningholm pavillion/apartment most of the time before.

A few weeks ago Emma Pernald was asked, if this would be true and she said, that it wouldn´t. Her answer seems logically to me...there is no such tradition in Royal houses. And if you feel ready, then you feel ready and don´t look at your siblings...

I was relaying what Point De vue was saying. I doubt there are rules about it but as a deferrence to the future queen and their ages, it may be true somehow.


Agreed. Royal mags babble all the time about protocol...and that this&that would never be allowed for Royals...and though those young Royals establish every new week new own rules.
Mags bubble, royals pose, papparazzi click we keep watching and debating and the world goes round and round! To me, it is sad that what used to be the norm for the Hollywood startlets became norm for the royals.......
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[quote=rop81;791490][quote=Franz;791473]I came to the conclusion that this is an invention. I think that Daniel Westling didnt stay at CP Victorias Drottningholm pavillion/appartment most of the time before.

Why? Because the swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt would know about that and he doesnt.
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Why do you think that the prime minister would know if Daniel would have "lived" with Victoria? It´s not like that Victoria would call Fredrik Reinfeldt and say "just for your information Daniel lives with me - secretly" . The prime minister would only get involved when Victoria and Daniel gets engaged.

I certainly belives that he have lived quite alot with Victoria and vice versa but mostly he with her, and i think that almost all people in Sweden would agree with me - I mean why would they be any different (in private) then the rest of us?
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:19 PM
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I came to the conclusion that this is an invention. I think that Daniel Westling didnt stay at CP Victorias Drottningholm pavillion/appartment most of the time before.

Why? Because the swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt would know about that and he doesnt.(Westlings flytt – en nyhet för Reinfeldt | Nyheter | Aftonbladet ).
Why would he know if Victoria and her boyfriend were unofficially living together? It's not an issue of his, until the point where they get official and need the permission of the government.

As I read the article you're linking to, it has nothing to do with what Reinfeldt knows about Victoria and Daniel's previous unofficial living arrangements, but what he knows about their present ones, and if that could lead into their future ones. He hasn't been informed of the fact that Daniel is moving into Drottningholm - and the journalists speculate in whether or not his lack of knowledge will make the road towards the wedding a longer one...
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:08 PM
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Yes, why should the PM know about Victoria´s private life?
Daniel, Victoria and Herr&Fru Reinfeldt aren´t sharing one blanket at night (I hope )
She could tell him things at private dinners or he could read them in the newspapers, but that would be it.
It´s in no way a matter for the PM, who (or who not) would be a private guest of the crown princess.
And now this move is also nothing, he needs to rubber-stamp. In general the king can choose, whoever he wants as leaser.

I´ve actually also not understood, why Reinfeldt not knowing about the move would indicate, that there wouldn´t be a wedding "soon". He had stayed quite vague. So if he would know something about an engagement, he didn´t reveal it directly.
But even if he indeed would not know anything...accepting a person like Westling, so with a clean record, should be a minor formal thing.
This could easily happen within the next month (what I am doubting as I am sure V&D wanna enjoy their summer vacation without being the filler for the media´s boring "vacation season")
If it would take superlong to get an engagement at the government through, Letizia&Felipe would have never engaged so early...

And it wasn´t only Jenny Alexandersson, who was reporting, that Daniel would stay a lot at Drottningholm. This was firstly news in the daily newspapers (more than a year ago)
And up from that time many "car sightings" with Victoria&Daniel aboard going from Drottningholm to the city and vice versa were reported.
If it was now "most" of the time...so always, when she was in Stockholm...can´t be said...I give you that.
But alone for secrecy and privacy reasons, it´s likely, that they had spent more time at her place than at his.
And that they didn´t spend nights together we aren´t assuming, or are we
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And that they didn´t spend nights together we aren´t assuming, or are we
Heaven forbid - oh no!
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Jenny Alexandersson about Daniel´s living arrangements, also in english
Jennys kungliga blogg/Svensk Damtidning
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Jenny Alexandersson about Daniel´s living arrangements, also in english
Jennys kungliga blogg/Svensk Damtidning

Sorry, but "en av Daniels grannar från Banérgatan" / "one of Daniel's naighbours from Banér-Street" is no real source.

As well as "för honom/henne var det självklart att" / "for he/she was it taken for grant that".

(Sorry, its just what we've learned at the University and during the journalist education: find and check the source of information)
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Sorry, but "en av Daniels grannar från Banérgatan" / "one of Daniel's naighbours from Banér-Street" is no real source.

As well as "för honom/henne var det självklart att" / "for he/she was it taken for grant that".

(Sorry, its just what we've learned at the University and during the journalist education: find and check the source of information)
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I know I am late but such wonderful news about Daniel and Victoria living close together.I hope to see or atleast hear about a royal wedding in the near future.
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I hope I to see or altleast hear about a royal wedding in the near future.
You´re not alone in this wish...
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You´re not alone in this wish...
I know I see espically since your Swedish and Victoria is your nation's heir.The monarchy will continue with her being she is future queen. I am happy their showing people that are serious about their relationship Daniel and Victoria.
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I know I am late but such wonderful news about Daniel and Victoria living close together.I hope to see or atleast hear about a royal wedding in the near future.
not near future but a wedding 2010

i wonder if they are the first royal couple to live togather before and during the engagment period...
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