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Old 03-01-2016, 05:49 AM
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If due date was the Leap Day it would be perfectly normal that the baby can come between now and March 13th
Due date+ 2 weeks is perfectly normal.
My daughter is a midwife and she has the impression that more and more babies tend to come one or two weeks after due date.
Actually it is normal to have babies - 2 to + 2 weeks from due date. If I remember correctly, about 2/3 have tendency to carry full time or longer and 1/3 shorter. To some families it can be even - 4 and still all babies are not premature. Due date is just estimate.
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Old 03-01-2016, 06:12 AM
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Estimation today is quite precise, due to the use of 3D ultrasound scans but it seems that a pregnancy is rather 40 weeks +, nowadays
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:12 AM
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It's officially March in Sweden now? So Stork Watch has began. Since Estelle was born in the middle of the night will the media try to camp out at the local hospitals?
Victoria and Daniel will probably be escorted inside through an underground ambulance intake so the media won't likely notice anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Royal Court will try the same procedure they did with Madeleine during the birth of Prince Nicholas and that we won't know anything until the baby is born
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:18 AM
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Estimation today is quite precise, due to the use of 3D ultrasound scans but it seems that a pregnancy is rather 40 weeks +, nowadays
Actually also 3D can give +/- 7 days mistake of how far pregnancy is. And as I said earlier, some families have tendency to carry much less than 40 weeks, my family is such. Even if you know day of fertilization, there can be 37 days variation of actual birth date.

If you do not believe me, here is research of this subject http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/con.../humrep.det297
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:19 AM
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Victoria and Daniel will probably be escorted inside through an underground ambulance intake so the media won't likely notice anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Royal Court will try the same procedure they did with Madeleine during the birth of Prince Nicholas and that we won't know anything until the baby is born
I really hope they can manage it that way
I never understood all that people around St Mary's there in London, waiting along for nearly two weeks
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:10 AM
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The pregnancy with Estelle was announced Aug 17'th, 2011. Estelle was born on Feb 23'rd, 2012.
This pregnancy was announced Sept 4'th, 2015. We'll see when the next baby arrives, but if we assume that they were both announced around 12 weeks.. is there anyone here who is good at pregnancy math? I'm not :)
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:13 AM
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The pregnancy with Estelle was announced Aug 17'th, 2011. Estelle was born on Feb 23'rd, 2012.
This pregnancy was announced Sept 4'th, 2015. We'll see when the next baby arrives, but if we assume that they were both announced around 12 weeks.. is there anyone here who is good at pregnancy math? I'm not :)
The due date can only be calculated approximately, but I think that Estelle was due at the turning of the month, and that is around end of february/ beginning of March.) This baby seems to be due in early March. I still think Victoria won't get past March 10th.
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:45 AM
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The pregnancy with Estelle was announced Aug 17'th, 2011. Estelle was born on Feb 23'rd, 2012.
This pregnancy was announced Sept 4'th, 2015. We'll see when the next baby arrives, but if we assume that they were both announced around 12 weeks.. is there anyone here who is good at pregnancy math? I'm not :)
The September 4th 2015 announcement is 19 days after August 17th
Let's say both babies were in the same stage of development at the official announcement and let's say that they develop more or less in the same way, the birth can be expected around March 12th, 19 days after Estelle's birthday. Indeed a March birth as the official announcement said
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Old 03-01-2016, 09:46 AM
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It will be interesting to see wether the christening will take place in the Royal Palace Church and be on the same scale as Estelle's christening or if it will be a smaller ceremony in Drottningholm or maybe in Solna Church close to Haga Palace where Princess Birgitta, Princess Desirée and Princess Christina was baptised.

But first, we should hope and pray that everything goes well !
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Old 03-01-2016, 02:15 PM
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Any time between March 1st and March 31 is indeed a March birth. March 13th is no more a 'March birth' then March 2nd is.

As for the christening, it should be smaller than Estelle's as this baby is not the future heir. But I would suspect it will still be larger than Leo and Nico's, with some foreign royals involved. I don't see them using a smaller church like with the Haga princesses. Unlike Vic's Aunts, who while the daughters of the Crown prince and princess were not in line for the throne, this baby will one day be second in line. Leo and Nico who are much further from the throne then this baby were baptized at Drottingham. If not at Stockholm palace, I think Drottingham.
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Old 03-01-2016, 02:34 PM
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Any time between March 1st and March 31 is indeed a March birth. March 13th is no more a 'March birth' then March 2nd is.

As for the christening, it should be smaller than Estelle's as this baby is not the future heir. But I would suspect it will still be larger than Leo and Nico's, with some foreign royals involved. I don't see them using a smaller church like with the Haga princesses. Unlike Vic's Aunts, who while the daughters of the Crown prince and princess were not in line for the throne, this baby will one day be second in line. Leo and Nico who are much further from the throne then this baby were baptized at Drottingham. If not at Stockholm palace, I think Drottingham.

I believe there is a good chance that one or two of the new baby's godparents may be foreign royals.
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Old 03-01-2016, 02:53 PM
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I agree, I am leaning more towards 2, with Maddie. Vic is so close to the foreign royals unlike Maddie, and is godmother to many of theirs. The last 2 godparents IMO will be personal friends of the couple.
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Old 03-01-2016, 02:54 PM
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The pregnancy with Estelle was announced Aug 17'th, 2011. Estelle was born on Feb 23'rd, 2012.
This pregnancy was announced Sept 4'th, 2015. We'll see when the next baby arrives, but if we assume that they were both announced around 12 weeks.. is there anyone here who is good at pregnancy math? I'm not :)
If it is true she has now 37 + week.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:21 PM
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Estelle seems to have been announced earlier then 12 weeks. If her due date was February 29/March 1 as reported, her conception date should have been around June 4-12, meaning Victoria was only a little over 2 months when they announced. It is possible they gave a later due date as some suspect royals due, and Estelle was actually born closer to her due date. A due date of the 23rd would have pushed her conception date back to May 29-June 4 likely. Meaning she would have been around the 10 week mark.

It is possible this time they waited for 12 week mark for some reason (perhaps miscarriages or other worries in the past). A due date of March 2nd would have the possible conception date in early June, putting Vic pretty close to exactly on the 12 week mark when she announced.

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Old 03-01-2016, 04:34 PM
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It will be interesting to see wether the christening will take place in the Royal Palace Church and be on the same scale as Estelle's christening or if it will be a smaller ceremony in Drottningholm or maybe in Solna Church close to Haga Palace where Princess Birgitta, Princess Desirée and Princess Christina was baptised.

But first, we should hope and pray that everything goes well !
Here are pictures of Solna Church, close to Haga Palace where 3 of Victorias aunts are baptised (only Margaretha and Carl-Gustaf were baptised at the Royal Palace) and where maybe the next christening takes place ?

KYRKOKARTAN.SE » Solna kyrka » Solna kyrka, sommaren 2000. Foto: Åke Johansson.
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:44 PM
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I don't see Vic's baby being baptized in a regular cathedral, even if her Aunts were. Leo and Nico were 4th and 5th in line when they were baptized, and were baptized at Drottingham. This baby may be the future spare but he or she is still the second child of the Crown Princess. And unlike Vic's Aunts, in line for the throne. Until the change in succession laws, Sweden practiced Salic law, Victoria herself was not born in line to the throne (though they already knew the laws were changing). Until CP was born, Bertil was the only heir to the throne, and until the law changed, he remained second in line to the throne.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:01 PM
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I don't see Vic's baby being baptized in a regular cathedral, even if her Aunts were. Leo and Nico were 4th and 5th in line when they were baptized, and were baptized at Drottingham. This baby may be the future spare but he or she is still the second child of the Crown Princess. And unlike Vic's Aunts, in line for the throne. Until the change in succession laws, Sweden practiced Salic law, Victoria herself was not born in line to the throne (though they already knew the laws were changing). Until CP was born, Bertil was the only heir to the throne, and until the law changed, he remained second in line to the throne.
In Denmark almost everyone in the line of succession are baptised in different churches.

Madeleines desicion to baptise her children at Drottningholm was a personal wish from her because she was born there.

But i still hold the Royal Palace as the most likely option.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:08 PM
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According to the media, at Estelle's christening was over 400 guests. At Leonore's and Nicolas's christenings were 160 guests at both christenings, to Royal Chapel at Drottningholm that is about the maximum amount of guests.
I found information that the Solna church can take only 120 people, so it is too small.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:16 PM
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I found information that the Solna church can take only 120 people, so it is too small.
Yes Solna Church usually takes 120-130 sitting persons so it is not very big. Depends on how big Victoria and Daniel wants to have it.

I work in Hedvig Eleonora Church in central Stockholm that can take 900 sitting persons. Would be very happy if we were asked but our Church is probably way too big.
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:43 PM
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I work in Hedvig Eleonora Church in central Stockholm that can take 900 sitting persons. Would be very happy if we were asked but our Church is probably way too big.
Can a church be too big for a royal baptism? I think it will be Storkyrkan, but Hedvig Eleonora would be a great places as well.
(And by the way, you have a great chamber choir!)
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