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Old 06-18-2004, 08:26 PM
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- Jag har aldrig pratat med henne om förlovning.
The holy ETW: I´ve never talked with Victoria about an engagement

Tztztz...ETW, should we really believe that?! I bet the swedish court´s Rasputin knows every little single detail of the future heir´s life. Far more than Mamma Silvia and Pappa-kungen. And she surely has talked to her protégé about love and relationship.
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Old 06-19-2004, 02:00 AM
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Yes, Lena can read my mind on all of this. For the rest of you, try harder if you don´t know.

"You are happy when Victoria is unhappy?"

What a ridiculous thought. I want her to be happy and live life to its fullest. Preferably, I would want her to be happy with me.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:31 PM
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BTW there is a poll on the page of Aftonbladet as well...and they ask if the crown princess should be allowed to marry whom she wants...and so far over 83% said "ja" (yes)...so IMO a clear yes FOR Daniel!
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:16 AM
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INTERESTING NEWS FROM OUR "FAVOURITE" COUPLE :woot: : AAAANNNNDDDD...Daniel TALKS to enemy EXPRESSEN. double- :woot:

The complete Westling-clan...and "daughter-in-law" (?) Victoria

Victorias kärleks-semester
OKELBO. Medan kungaparet kopplat av i S:t Tropez har kronprinsessan Victoria firat midsommar i Ockelbo.
Hon och pojkvännen Daniel Westling bytte Franska rivieran - mot promenader och jordgubbar från Konsum.
- Det är skönt att vara här, att ha vänner man litar på, säger Daniel Westling.

I strålande sommarsol har kronprinsessan Victoria tagit långa promenader med pojkvännen, och svärföräldrarna Eva och Olle.
Här - långt från exklusiva S:t Tropez på franska rivieran - kan Victoria och Daniel klä sig i t-shirt och träningsskor. Ett par mil söderut ligger Högbo golfklubb, som har plaststolar i den enkla serveringen.
- Daniel och Victoria brukar vara här och spela ibland, säger en man som arbetar i golfshopen.
I keps och kortbyxor släntrar Daniel Westling längs mammas gata och hälsar på alla:
- Jag tycker verkligen om att vara i Ockelbo, här kan vi vara i fred, som vilka som helst, nästan.
- Det kanske inte ser så kul ut - Ockelbo by day. Men visst är det fint, egentligen? säger Daniel och skrattar.

Många vänner hälsar på
I villaträdgårdarna går nyfikna grannar och påtar och klipper gräs. Daniel hälsar på en kompis i en vit Volvo 244 med rostfläckar.
- Hej, det är jag som Eva, säger Daniels mamma när hon kommer fram och hälsar.
Här har Victoria fått träffa Daniels gamla vänner, hela tiden stannar bilar vid radhuset.
- Jag trivs oerhört bra här, säger Daniel Westling.
Tycker du att uppmärksamheten kring dig är jobbig?
- Egentligen inte, jag vet vem jag är. Mina vänner vet vem jag är. Jag känner mig helt trygg med det, säger Daniel.
Du har ju inte berättat så mycket om dig själv?
- Det kommer en dag för det också, säger han och fortsätter:
- Det blev snett från början...
- Jag försöker ibland att sätta mig in i hur folk ser på mig, hur ni journalister tänker. Mycket vad folk tror om mig stämmer inte.
Victoria och Daniel vill markera att de är ett par - och att de har det bra. Den senaste tiden har Victoria fått höra att hennes pappa kungen ska ha sagt att hon inte kan gifta sig med Daniel Westling.
Enligt vänner till paret har Daniel mått mycket dåligt av att bli ifrågasatt - samtidigt som han och Victoria älskar varandra.
- Jag vill inte prata om det där, säger han.
- Nu ska jag in och handla jordgubbar med pappa, säger Daniel och sticker in på Konsum.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:18 AM
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Lena has a nice/good day today and tried therefore a translation (ok ok, I just wanted to practise my swedish and english...and I want to discuss the stuff with you )
Maybe the Swedes can correct some things (?)


Victoria´s holidays of love

While the Royal couple relaxed in St. Tropez, the crown princess has celebrated midsummer in Ockelbo.
She and (her) boyfriend Daniel Westling exchange the french Riveria-to walks and strawberries from "Konsum".
-This is nice to be here, and to have friends to which you can rely on, says Daniel Westling

In the bright summer-sun the crown princess has done/undertaken long walks with the boyfriend, and the parents-in-law Eva and Olle.
Here-away from the the exclusive St. Tropez at the french Riveria-Victoria and Daniel can dress (down) in T-Shirt and sneakers (training-shoes). A few miles out lies/is the Högbo golfclub, which has chairs out of plastic in the simple cafeteria.
-Daniel and Victoria are in the habit to be here and play (here) sometimes, a man says, who works in the golfing-shop.
With a cap and in short trousers Daniel Westling strolls (down the street) next to his "mamma" and greets to all:
-I really like it to be in Ockelbo, here I can be left in peace, like anybody else, almost/practically
-This (Ockelbo) probably doesn´t look cool/ like fun-Ockelbo by day. But it is certainly fine, actually? says Daniel and laughs.

Many friends to greet
In "villaträdgårdarna" (no idea, what it means...something out of "mansion/house" "tree" and "garden"...I´m waiting for the Swedes here-coming back from "strawberry-shopping" -to help me out here) curious neighbours poke (in the earth?) and cut grass. Daniel greets at a friend in a white Volvo 244 with rust stains.
-Hej/hi, that is me Eva (right translation? the "som" here confuses me), says Daniel´s mamma, when she comes forwards and greets.
Here Victoria has met/can meet (?) Daniel´s old friends, all of the time cars stop at the terraced house/one family home.

-I´m enjoying it very much here, says Daniel Westling.
Do you think that the attention around you is strenuous?
-Actually not; I know who I´m. My friends know who I´m. I feel me completely secure with that, says Daniel
You haven´t ( so far) told many (things) about yourself?
-There´s coming a day for that as well, he says and goes on:
-This was oblique from the beginning... (but here he could have also meant...this was wrong from the beginning?)
-I try sometimes to imagine how the people look at me, how (you) journalists think (about me). Many (things) which (the) people think aren´t true.
Victoria and Daniel will show that they are a couple-and that they have it good (are good as couple). In the last time Victoria came to know (had to read in Expressen ) that her daddy king should have said that she shouldn´t marry Daniel Westling.
According to friends of the couple Daniel has felt really bad about being questioned-while at the same time he and Victoria are/was loving each other
-I don´t want to talk about that, he says
-Now I will (go) in and buy strawberries with Pappa (isn´t that cuuuuttteee ), says Daniel and leaves to the "Konsum" (=super market)
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:02 AM
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finally! maybe something big is about to happend :P
Thanks for the translation Lena!
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:15 AM
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finally! maybe something big is about to happend :P
Thanks for the translation Lena!
At least their relationship seems to be at an very important point! When Daniel C. (aka DanielI) talked to the press it was finally over...of course there could have been other reasons. But according to that what we know out of other Royal houses (the "Royal game" and it´s rules) to talk to the press means a) that you´re an attention-seeking sod or b ) that it´s very very serious with the relationship. I tend to b. ... Daniel did well in this mini-interview...no whistle-blown secrets, he seemed relaxed (ok, mummy was next to him ). Hey Swedes, I think this will become your prince consort!


You´re welcome, Yennie...but I guess/bet you understood the swedish version better
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What do you think? Can we expect a royal marriage up there in the North (Sweden) ?
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:32 PM
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yes I think so he is starting to talk with media at times when they ask him things now he never done so before
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What do you think? Can we expect a royal marriage up there in the North (Sweden) ?
Yes


Thank you GrandDuchess for publishing the Expressen-article...when I´ve checked Expressen in the noon, it wasn´t on then (usually they publish the most articles in the morning...and only top news during the day).
Now we get every day new pix of Victoria and Daniel...and though it´s surely bothering for both, IMO Daniel looks relaxed.
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I seem to have missed a lot of the development of this relationship -- is marriage really in the air between Victoria and Daniel? Has he come around very much since in the past few weeks? Last I heard, the role of Queen Consort seemed a bit daunting to him and the press intrusion on his life a great hindrance. Or has Victoria simply caught the wedding bug after attending the Danish and Spanish royal weddings? Victoria as a bride ... that would be a lovely sight ...
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Alexandria  Posted: Jul 1st, 2004 - 9:41 pm

I seem to have missed a lot of the development of this relationship -- is marriage really in the air between Victoria and Daniel? Has he come around very much since in the past few weeks? Last I heard, the role of Queen Consort seemed a bit daunting to him and the press intrusion on his life a great hindrance. Or has Victoria simply caught the wedding bug after attending the Danish and Spanish royal weddings?
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... as Lena should be able to share with you better than me .....

- D2 has seemed better since his funk. He's grown his business since then too. :)
- I think Victoria backed off (off of him) too.
- Maybe the press are keeping a more respectful distance, too.
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... as Lena should be able to share with you better than me .....

- D2 has seemed better since his funk. He's grown his business since then too. :)
- I think Victoria backed off (off of him) too.
- Maybe the press are keeping a more respectful distance, too.
Funk??? I missed a lot around here! A lot happens when a girl is stuck at the office slaving away for the man!

Press is keeping a distance? Between who? Victoria and Daniel or Victoria and Dennis?
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Old 07-02-2004, 02:33 AM
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Hey Alexandria...nice to say you here again...made my day (and that at 8:30 am!&#33 :woot:

Hm, a distance? Wouldn´t agree here..at the moment we get almost every day new pictures of the couple.

I think the biggest difference was, that Daniel has talked to Expressen (I´ve translated/tried to translate the article...look at the end of the Victoria & Daniel IV-thread) And as we all know in the international "Royal code", talking to the press does mean a big change!
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You haven´t ( so far) told many (things) about yourself?
-There´s coming a day for that as well, he says
Expressen to Daniel...and Daniel´s answer. This sentence makes/made me very suspicious...why should an inoffical boyfriend of a crown princess (so somebody, who´s actually offically NOT "existing" as boyfriend) say, that it´s time or that the time will come, at which he (will) talk(s) to the press (and that directly NEXT to the crown princess)...this sounds like "engagement day" :woot:
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You haven´t ( so far) told many (things) about yourself?
-There´s coming a day for that as well, he says
Expressen to Daniel...and Daniel´s answer. This sentence makes/made me very suspicious...why should an inoffical boyfriend of a crown princess (so somebody, who´s actually offically NOT "existing" as boyfriend) say, that it´s time or that the time will come, at which he (will) talk(s) to the press (and that directly NEXT to the crown princess)...this sounds like "engagement day"
Wait Lena.

The bad reputation that the press has... is that they take things "out of context".

I heard a professor of mine once say "live on TV" that he doesn't talk to the press because they deliberately misinterpret

.... so, in deference to Daniel, he probably said something, and Expressen mis-interpreted ... to change a dull answer to something that sells newspapers. Am I making my point?
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Old 07-02-2004, 12:16 PM
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Hm Christian...usually I don´t believe what Expressobladet writes...not their little "hints", not their predicitions, and not the existence of their secret sources...but Expressen and Aftonbladet are still more newspapers than those tabloids, which we know from the Germans (well, actually they exist everywhere...in Sweden as well..e.g. "Hänt extra")...and when they get an interview, then they usually publish the WHOLE recording (so all questions and all answers)...so I believe he said it this way...and to this item not more or less. But as he isn´t used to interviews, it can be, that he wasn´t aware of the fact, that ppl (or Lena )could interpret his sentences different.
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So no royal marriage?
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So no royal marriage?
You´re like a leave in the wind Even worse than me...one day THIS opinion, the next day THAT... actually we all here know nothing...maybe Victoria and Daniel fool us, and are engaged for months...or (???)
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Hey Alexandria...nice to say you here again...made my day (and that at 8:30 am!&#33 :woot:
Hi Lena! Thanks for the nice comments! I'm glad to be back to enjoy the "banter" between the "driving forces" in the Swedish forum again! Thanks for the Expressen translation ... Not sure if I missed it during my "hiatus" but was Daniel at any family celebrations for Victoria's recent birthday? Or the recent Swedish National Day, even if only in the crowd? (I am not sure if Carl Phillip's Emma attends, too? She and Daniel could sit in the audience together I guess.)

... I do hope that if there is a wedding ahead for Victoria and Daniel he will cut his hair. I just read a thread about a make over for Victoria. But before she gets one, let's introduce Daniel to a hair dresser (preferably Carl Phillip's) and scissors! :P
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