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Old 05-26-2016, 03:46 PM
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The prince's coat of arms is ringed by the Collar (Chain) of the Order of the Seraphim, a mark of special distinction, which is included in the coat of arms of his cousin Prince Nicolas but not those of Princess Estelle, Princess Leonore, or Prince Daniel.

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That is very odd. Any particular reason why the princes have the chain in their coat of arms while the princess do not (maybe connected to agnatic succession) ?
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Many of the coats of arms displayed on royalty websites, Wikipedia, and so forth were created by amateur heraldists and are not approved by the royal families or by heraldic authorities. The official design of Prince Daniel's coat of arms, created by the State Herald of Sweden and confirmed by the King, does not include the collar, and Prince Daniel has never worn one.

Mr Daniel Westling's coat of arms and monogram are unveiled - Sveriges Kungahus

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That is very odd. Any particular reason why the princes have the chain in their coat of arms while the princess do not (maybe connected to agnatic succession) ?
The King appears to have reserved it for princes of the blood (with an exception made for the Crown Princess, if my memory serves me correctly), although not necessarily in the agnatic line, as Prince Nicolas has it.
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Old 05-26-2016, 04:51 PM
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Before 1975, all Swedish knights of the order of the Seraphim were given the chain. Foreign knights were given it only as a special distinction. Heads of state were usually given the sash at the first state visit and the chain at the second one. After 1975, the chain is not automatically given to Swedish knights. As far as i know, the King, the Crown Princess and Prince Carl Philip are the only ones.

The heraldic practice is different. Shields are painter for all the members of the knights (male) and members (female). Shields of knights are always depicted with the chain, and members with the sash. Exceptions are reigning queens and crown princesses who get the chain instead of the sash. Outside the order, the chain or sash can be omitted.

Thus, Prince Daniel's shield can be depicted with the chain (picture) but he does not actually have it.
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I appreciate the correction.

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The heraldic practice is different. [...]

Thus, Prince Daniel's shield can be depicted with the chain (picture) but he does not actually have it.
Do you know why the chain was omitted from the official drawing of Prince Daniel's arms but included in those of the young princes?
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Old 05-26-2016, 05:41 PM
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Do you know why the chain was omitted from the official drawing of Prince Daniel's arms but included in those of the young princes?
I am not sure. The chain is an optional part of the arms. My guess would be that since the arms were presented five days before the announcement that Daniel was appointed to the order, they simply did not want to give away the surprise.
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I could be wrong, but may be an issue of timing. The shield was ordered designed at the time of the engagement, in 2009. At the time, a decision whether Daniel would be given the order or not, may not have been made. The coat was released on June 15, and the announcement of his order, on the 19th (wedding day). With the princes, it has been established before their birth, that like their sisters they will have the order from birth. And the order has been added to their coat of arms.
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Old 05-26-2016, 08:08 PM
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Here's Daniel coat of arms as listed in Wikipedia:



The collars are for the men as they are knights of the Seraphim order, the women are members.

All adult members of the immediate royal family have an individual coat of arms except Chris and Sofia.
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:32 AM
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All very interesting, but can i just say that i hope that at the end of today there will be more posts about P.Oscar, his baptism or the people involved in this thread than about his dad's coat of arms
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:44 AM
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Link to Coverage:
Syntolkning Prins Oscars dop - Prins Oscars dop - syntolkad | SVT Play
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:50 AM
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Margareta Thorgren told to SVT:
- There will be around 370 guests at the christening. In addition, about 70 Swedish and foreign journalists to watch the baptism in place, so there is great interest.
Many details have not been revealed in advance, such as the music that will be performed or how the chapel is decorated.
- Although we have celebrated several christenings in recent years, both here at the Royal Chapel and the Drottningholm Palace Chapel, every christening is unique. We want to keep it as a secret for the guests.
The prince bears the traditional christening gown which many other royals had before him, including the king, big sister Estelle and the other cousins. Christening gown has been passed down in the family Bernadotte from 1906. A newer tradition which the royal couple began more than 30 years ago is that the christening water is retrieved from a spring on Öland.
- If there will be any further new traditions we see, Thorgren says.
The days before the christening have been busy with the preparations and rehearsals, but even though there is an element that is difficult to prepare.
- Yes, it is the prince himself. We only hope that he has a good day and is in a good mood, says Margareta Thorgren, laughing.
I dag ska prins Oscar döpas _ SVT Nyheter
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That is the link to the broadcast with audio description, here is the link to "normal" coverage:
Prins Oscars dop - Prins Oscars dop _ SVT Play

The court florist Claes Carlsson has told to the media about the decorations at the Chapel:
The flowers of the Chapel will be lilacs and cow parsleys. There will also be leaves of maple and beech, picked beside the Haga Palace.
Hovfloristen om blommorna_ Så smyckar jag dopkyrkan _ Svensk Damtidning
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Old 05-27-2016, 03:12 AM
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Looking at the guest list. Is Daniel's niece bringing a boyfriend

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Fröken Hedvig Blom och Herr Oliver Dackell
Does Anna have stepchildren??? Sorry I don't know much about Daniel's side

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Herr Casper Söderström
Fröken Caisa Söderström
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Old 05-27-2016, 03:21 AM
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Margareta Thorgren told to SVT:
- There will be around 370 guests at the christening. In addition, about 70 Swedish and foreign journalists to watch the baptism in place, so there is great interest.
Many details have not been revealed in advance, such as the music that will be performed or how the chapel is decorated.
- Although we have celebrated several christenings in recent years, both here at the Royal Chapel and the Drottningholm Palace Chapel, every christening is unique. We want to keep it as a secret for the guests.
The prince bears the traditional christening gown which many other royals had before him, including the king, big sister Estelle and the other cousins. Christening gown has been passed down in the family Bernadotte from 1906. A newer tradition which the royal couple began more than 30 years ago is that the christening water is retrieved from a spring on Öland.
- If there will be any further new traditions we see, Thorgren says.
The days before the christening have been busy with the preparations and rehearsals, but even though there is an element that is difficult to prepare.
- Yes, it is the prince himself. We only hope that he has a good day and is in a good mood, says Margareta Thorgren, laughing.
I dag ska prins Oscar döpas _ SVT Nyheter
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That is the link to the broadcast with audio description, here is the link to "normal" coverage:
Prins Oscars dop - Prins Oscars dop _ SVT Play

The court florist Claes Carlsson has told to the media about the decorations at the Chapel:
The flowers of the Chapel will be lilacs and cow parsleys. There will also be leaves of maple and beech, picked beside the Haga Palace.
Hovfloristen om blommorna_ Så smyckar jag dopkyrkan _ Svensk Damtidning
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Old 05-27-2016, 03:52 AM
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Looking at the guest list. Is Daniel's niece bringing a boyfriend



Does Anna have stepchildren??? Sorry I don't know much about Daniel's side
Yes, Hedvig comes with her boyfriend. Oliver was with Hedvig, Victoria, Daniel and Estelle also at the icehockey match in February.
Casper and Caisa Söderström are Mikael Söderström's children from his first marriage. They attended also at Estelle's christening.

Here is a HQ photo of prince Fredrik Adolf's crown which will be at the altar today.
http://www.kungahuset.se/images/200....gahuset.se.jpg

TV4play starts now at 10.00 their "special" at Nyhetsmorgon, where they talk about the christening.
http://www.tv4play.se/program/nyhets...deo_id=3217023

TV4's Maria Forsblom is at the courtyard and told that cars were coming to the Palace, at one of them was Estelle and waved to the people. The other reporter tells that they have got information that Estelle will have a role at the christening.

Expressen's live-TV started
Prins Oscars dop – följ dopet live _ Kungligt _ Expressen

Elisabeth Tarras-Wahlberg with her partner (she, like the others former court staff aren't at the published guest list)
http://media.shootitlive.com/OgfQriZ...expressen/2217
Margareta Pålsson, the governor of Skåne, with the board of the christening present, the Prince Oscar's playground
http://media.shootitlive.com/6kqeEJ4...expressen/2217
Margareta Thorgen with husband
http://media.shootitlive.com/CBGccxV...expressen/2217
Count Bertil and countess Jill Bernadotte
http://media.shootitlive.com/0sJSfd9...expressen/2217

Svensk Damtidning updates photos here:
Följ dopet här! _ Svensk Damtidning
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I saw a pic of Frederik and Mary arriving at the palace
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:24 AM
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Frederik and Mary have arrived to the palace

http://media.shootitlive.com/2BEgwY5...expressen/2217

Mary and Haakon arriving together as their partners both godparents
http://media.shootitlive.com/GTmu4RM...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/HoVHtNF...llapictures/14

Carl Phillip, Sofia and Chris arriving
http://media.shootitlive.com/Yy2CFAH...expressen/2217

Silvia and Carl Gustaf
http://media.shootitlive.com/RSKhU4z...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/LA5Ty7q...expressen/2217
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:38 AM
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SVT's stream doesn't work for me. Keeps loading :(
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:48 AM
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Many of the "big" names at the swedish business life aren't mentioned at the guest list (they are seen as personal friends), for instance Jacob Wallenberg and Kristina Stenbeck arrived with their spouses.
A lot of Victoria's and Daniel's friends are attending. Among them are former Famous NHL ice hockey players Mats Sundin and Peter Forsberg, who are Daniel's friends.

At the program is again "Vilar glad i din famn", which Benny Andersson composed to Victoria's and Daniel's wedding, and Elin Rombo sang it also at Estelle's christening.

Hedvig Blom and Oliver Dackell
http://media.shootitlive.com/PokdFMC...expressen/2217
Vera Blom, Casper and Caisa Söderström
http://media.shootitlive.com/GxOdQcO...expressen/2217
Anna and Mikael Westling Söderström
http://media.shootitlive.com/BWuEGgm...llapictures/14
Ewa and Olle Westling
http://media.shootitlive.com/2t3RuSu...expressen/2217
More
http://media.shootitlive.com/Ao8xsHE...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/SQweKgG...expressen/2217

Victoria and Daniel, happy...
http://media.shootitlive.com/Wig5V5n...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/WkbfflJ...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/IYUiVOw...expressen/2217
http://media.shootitlive.com/YRgAgBV...expressen/2217

Song to Skåne, in honor of the new duke of Skåne.
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It was so heartwarming when Estelle wanted to bless the water together with one of the priests. She was allowed to join, and I thought it was a wonderful illustration of "let the children come to me".

Update: picture! https://images.scribblelive.com/2016...06cabdf641.jpg
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Lovely pictures.
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