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Old 12-19-2012, 08:17 AM
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Well, for start, they are 16 times more royal than any other royal family (the Queen being queen of 16 realms). They don't marry their personal trainers or friends of drug lords, date nude models or have extramarital children. None of them are named after Greek goddesses or tried for corruption. None of them claims to be able to speak with angels. Shall I go on?
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:28 AM
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Well, for start, they are 16 times more royal than any other royal family (the Queen being queen of 16 realms). They don't marry their personal trainers or friends of drug lords, date nude models or have extramarital children. None of them are named after Greek goddesses or tried for corruption. None of them claims to be able to speak with angels. Shall I go on?
Thats too funny! I nearly choked on my tea lol
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:41 AM
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Well, for start, they are 16 times more royal than any other royal family (the Queen being queen of 16 realms). They don't marry their personal trainers or friends of drug lords, date nude models or have extramarital children. None of them are named after Greek goddesses or tried for corruption. None of them claims to be able to speak with angels. Shall I go on?
Yeah, because the Windsors have never done anything shocking, controversial, or "unroyal." :huh?:

IMO the Windsors are more well-known because of their recent/current status as a world empire, and the fact that an off-shoot of their empire is currently the major world power.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:46 AM
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Because of Diana, the British obsession with celebs, Will, Kate and Harry and the fact they're an English speaking country.

And coming to Kotroman, yet the current crop of CP's outside of Britain almost all have accomplished more in their academic studies and careers than Kate or Camilla.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:49 AM
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Then again, I sometimes think the Windsors probably wish they weren't so popular. Perhaps if they weren't so popular they wouldn't be hounded so much in the press, their privacy wouldn't be invaded so much so they could relax a little bit and even enjoy life a bit outside the palace walls.

I'm sure they royals do enjoy their popularity sometimes and it's what keep their old institution going but there is a downfall to their popularity and I think the downfall is what gets on their last nerve and it's burned them alot over the years.

Thinking about Queen Margarethe remarks during her Jubilee celebrations, I think she and other European royals are happy that the Windsors have the heaviest burden of popularity.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:19 AM
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The Windsors are the most popular, but not all of them are so well known. If you ask people around the world about the Royals, they will tell you all about Charles and Diana, the Queen and Philip, Wills and Harry and perhaps the York sisters but no one else really. Hardly anyone knows the Queen has a 3rd son, let alone who the Kent's and Gloucester's are. I think that is a real shame as the Kent's and Gloucester's are such hard working members.

I think Diana's popularity and the idea of a "fairytale wedding" increased the Windsor's popularity tenfold.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:51 AM
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Well, for start, they are 16 times more royal than any other royal family (the Queen being queen of 16 realms). They don't marry their personal trainers or friends of drug lords, date nude models or have extramarital children. None of them are named after Greek goddesses or tried for corruption. None of them claims to be able to speak with angels. Shall I go on?
And IMHO, exactly for those reason these other families seem much "closer" to us, so called "normal people".
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Well, for start, they are 16 times more royal than any other royal family (the Queen being queen of 16 realms). They don't marry their personal trainers or friends of drug lords, date nude models or have extramarital children. None of them are named after Greek goddesses or tried for corruption. None of them claims to be able to speak with angels. Shall I go on?
Poor Koo Stark, how quickly people forget
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Poor Koo Stark, how quickly people forget
Hahahaha........Exactly!
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:49 PM
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Albert and Charlene's wedding was shown on one of the Sky channels, but I think it was Euronews rather than a British channel. I think Felipe and Letizia's wedding was shown on Sky News, and I think I remember that Haakon and Mette-Marit's was as well. There's nothing like the amount of coverage that there seems to be of our royal family in other countries, though, except in Hello magazine.
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And IMHO, exactly for those reason these other families seem much "closer" to us, so called "normal people".
Royals are not supposed to be "normal people". Once they stop behaving as royalty, i.e. once they become too "close to us", people will get rid of them. Why would anyone pay for a family that is just like any other family in the country? They need an aura of regality and formality. Once you get to address your king as "bro", the monarchy will make no sense and will get abolished. Do you really think it's OK for royals to date topless models, marry people associated with drug lords, talk to angels, have [secret] extramarital children, etc?

British royals are not flawless but they are a bit more regal than average European royals. Anyway, I'm glad I made you laugh
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Thw only reason they have more noteriety is because here in the States, they are the only ones known. Charles married his long time mistress, with whom has has carried on a relationship with, even when they were both married, a stewp below marry a personal trainer. Andrew dated a porn star and they squelch anything they can get there hands on. There have been plenty of extramartital children over the years. Camilla just may be a decendant of one.
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Royals are not supposed to be "normal people". Once they stop behaving as royalty, i.e. once they become too "close to us", people will get rid of them. Why would anyone pay for a family that is just like any other family in the country? They need an aura of regality and formality. Once you get to address your king as "bro", the monarchy will make no sense and will get abolished. Do you really think it's OK for royals to date topless models, marry people associated with drug lords, talk to angels, have [secret] extramarital children, etc?

British royals are not flawless but they are a bit more regal than average European royals.
And that will happen sometime; maybe not during our lifetime, but it will happen.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:07 PM
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...There have been plenty of extramartital children over the years. Camilla just may be a decendant of one.
She is, assuming you mean Charles II's illegitimate children. So is Sarah and so was Diana. If you meant Alice Keppel's line, it is highly unlikely Sonia was Edward VII's daughter. Although even if she were, Charles and Camilla would hardly be related closer than, say, Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip or King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:19 AM
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Royals are not supposed to be "normal people". Once they stop behaving as royalty, i.e. once they become too "close to us", people will get rid of them. Why would anyone pay for a family that is just like any other family in the country? They need an aura of regality and formality. Once you get to address your king as "bro", the monarchy will make no sense and will get abolished. Do you really think it's OK for royals to date topless models, marry people associated with drug lords, talk to angels, have [secret] extramarital children, etc?

British royals are not flawless but they are a bit more regal than average European royals. Anyway, I'm glad I made you laugh
"More regal than the average European Royals"?? You made me laugh too !

CP Haakon of Norway wed an unwed mother/former party girl but there are no recordings of him wistfully musing about the possibility of reincarnating as the feminine hygiene product of his married mistress, or wishing he could live inside her knickers.

CP Victoria of Sweden is now the happy wife of her former trainer but she's never been seen dressed up like a Nazi for fun, nor has she been photographed cavorting stark naked and possibly drunk in a Las Vegas hotel room with a bunch of seedy strangers.

In fact, with the exception of the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duchess of Cornwall I now know what each of the senior members of this very "regal" family looks like naked. Unfortunately.

I certainly cannot say the same thing for Spain,Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Luxembourg or even Sweden for that matter.

The major reason for the Windsor popularity, at least here in the States, is that much like the Monaco Grimaldis they have so successfully blurred the line between Royalty and reality TV. The public embraces them because with a few exceptions, their behavour reflects that of the general public, which makes great tabloid material in our celebrity obsessed culture.

When HM and the Duke of Edinburgh are no longer on the scene, any semblance of mystique with the BRF will be a thing of the past-just like Monaco when Rainier III died.

As another poster brilliantly stated a few threads back IT'S ALL ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT!
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I suspect that why you know all that is the very fact that the BRF rates on the international stage while the other royal families don't.

Outside of their own nations, and maybe a neighbouring country or two, they don't sell.

e.g. here in Australia the only non-British royal who would sell anything in the press is Mary, but then she is an Aussie underneath her Danish royal titles.

The other royals are non-entities on the world stage while the press knows that a picture of Harry in a Nazi uniform will sell and sell and sell. I was in China at the time and the local papers there had him on the front page - now can you see the Chinese press putting anything about Victoria on their front page - I can't - simply because Sweden is a minor power while Britain has a history around the world for good and bad and so its royal family is well known.
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My point IluvBertie...is not the fact that they are well known and reported on. I have already agreed that they indeed are. It's why they are so well covered and I still say it's at least partly because of the notoriety and scandalous publicity they have attracted in the last 30 or so years.

And the idea that the Windors rate publicity because they are somehow ""more regal" than their counterparts on the Continent just makes me howl

I didn't even bother going into the Duke of York's problems in the last couple of years...BFF's with a convicted pedophile?? Really??
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Old 12-20-2012, 05:39 AM
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"More regal than the average European Royals"?? You made me laugh too !

CP Haakon of Norway wed an unwed mother/former party girl but there are no recordings of him wistfully musing about the possibility of reincarnating as the feminine hygiene product of his married mistress, or wishing he could live inside her knickers.

CP Victoria of Sweden is now the happy wife of her former trainer but she's never been seen dressed up like a Nazi for fun, nor has she been photographed cavorting stark naked and possibly drunk in a Las Vegas hotel room with a bunch of seedy strangers.

In fact, with the exception of the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duchess of Cornwall I now know what each of the senior members of this very "regal" family looks like naked. Unfortunately.

I certainly cannot say the same thing for Spain,Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Luxembourg or even Sweden for that matter.

The major reason for the Windsor popularity, at least here in the States, is that much like the Monaco Grimaldis they have so successfully blurred the line between Royalty and reality TV. The public embraces them because with a few exceptions, their behavour reflects that of the general public, which makes great tabloid material in our celebrity obsessed culture.

When HM and the Duke of Edinburgh are no longer on the scene, any semblance of mystique with the BRF will be a thing of the past-just like Monaco when Rainier III died.

As another poster brilliantly stated a few threads back IT'S ALL ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT!
Thank you for your great comments Moonmaiden23! I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some remarks (here and in the "Why Windsors don't go to royal weddings" thread) about the BRF being superior to others, being more regal, having bluer blood... Simply ridiculous IMO!
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CP Victoria of Sweden is now the happy wife of her former trainer but she's never been seen dressed up like a Nazi for fun
No, but her Grandpa Sommerlath has - though not for fun. He was an actual Nazi.

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nor has she been photographed cavorting stark naked and possibly drunk in a Las Vegas hotel room with a bunch of seedy strangers.
No, but her Papa was - to say the least (let alone admittedly whoring around and using the state police to cover up his visits to mafia-run strip clubs), and that's even after she was born.

You see, one can always find something. Unfortunatly, I do have to agree that once the Queen is gone, the British royal family will lose the little mystique and solemnity they have left.
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Thank you for your great comments Moonmaiden23! I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some remarks (here and in the "Why Windsors don't go to royal weddings" thread) about the BRF being superior to others, being more regal, having bluer blood... Simply ridiculous IMO!
I get a little testy about that too.

If a politician and his wife behaved like the Windsors he would have been driven from office, but for some reason the Windsors get some sort of pass.

Perhaps it's because the BRF has more headlines mainly because they have such a much more fascinating history and one that has made a significant international impact. Not since Rome has a country so dominated the world and it's cultural perspectives. So go figure, the Windsors are more prominent in terms of press coverage and general attention.

But, it does not mean that they are classy, better educated, or more intelligent or hardworking, quite the opposite really. The princes on the Continent are a lot more educated, have more practical degrees, and speak multiple languages while the BRF, current generation of newer royals, are quite the opposite.

Even teh Duchess of Cambridge has little by way of career and her education isn't that remarkable. A history of art degree can be used, but she has not used it at all and I wonder just how much time she spent in the library, when she wasn't jet setting or shopping or bar/club hopping. But for some reason she is supposed ot be 'better' than the other Crown Princesses just because she is married to Prince William, Heir to the British throne? Or William is supposed to be better, despite the fact that he doesn't speak multiple languages and doesn't have a degree in anything relevant to his future position?

In regards to being popular, they are popular like celebrities, for dressing well and being good at PR/stunts/fashionable causes, that's it. I don't think that can last long though since seems the public is getting fed up.
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