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05-12-2004, 06:29 PM
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So which of the next generation (save Lich. in August) of royals will asend to the throne? I heard that some think W-A, is that the common view - that Beatrix will be the next to step down? Any opinions?
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05-12-2004, 09:47 PM
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W-A is thought to be because of the abdication trend in the Netherlands. Yet when he becomes king, he will not have a coronation, he will be enthroned. The only European heirs most likely to have a coronation are the Prince of Wales and Prince William.
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06-10-2004, 05:29 AM
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06-10-2004, 03:27 PM
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I would probably guess that the next enthronement will be for Albert of Monaco. Prince Rainier III is not in such good health, and has not been for some time. Although it's sad, I would have to predict that the next monarch to die will be Rainier.
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06-10-2004, 07:18 PM
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I think a number of the present Monarchs will die before Queen Elizabeth II...even though she is nearing 80...odds are she will be on the throne for at least another 20 to 25 years.
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06-10-2004, 10:10 PM
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Erm, the two previous monarchs have abdicated. That can be considered a trend/tradition. The tradition also seems to exist in Luxembourg with Charlotte and Jean voluntarily abdicating and Marie-Adelheid involuntarily doing so.
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11-16-2004, 10:47 AM
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My guess is that the next enthronement will be for Prince Rainier's successor... He seems quite fragile now.
The only country in Europe that does the traditional coronation thing is Great Britain, so the next coronation will be over there for The Prince of Wales. But I think Queen Elizabeth will be alive and kickin' at her job for some years yet to come! 
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11-16-2004, 02:53 PM
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Yes but Western-Samoa? And Dubai? Saud-Arabia? Qatar?
These monarchs are old too!
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11-16-2004, 05:37 PM
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11-20-2004, 12:02 AM
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The thing is, no one except the most immediate family knows about the complete state of health of reigning sovereigns. I remember how shocked I was when King Baudouin died and he seemed relatively young, not very old. Yet apparently he had had a history of heart problems which the royal court officials minimised when they had to discuss it at all. For that reason, the ones I really wonder about at the moment are King Harald of Norway and Prince Rainier.
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11-20-2004, 01:12 AM
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I know it isn't European, but Emperor Akihito seems to be looking rather frail, and he's not been well recently either. I hope he lasts for a while, though, since Crown Princess Masako doesn't seem to be quite well yet and since Princess Sayako might be giving him some more grandchildren one of these years.
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04-15-2005, 12:33 PM
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So the next enthronement will indeed be for Prince Rainier's successor, Prince Albert.
The United Kingdom and the Holy See are the only ones left who do coronations, so when Pope John Paul II's successor is finally selected - we will get to see a papal coronation. Quite a unique thing to experience.
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04-15-2005, 01:46 PM
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The UK.......but then....i dun think it'll happen in the UK for at least like 10-20 years....cuz QEII is in good health...and given QE lived like 100 years old or something...i think QEII would live maybe even longer than her mother did....so.....i think the Prince of Wales won't be King until long from now...and besides...i really dun want to Camilla be Queen of England....so LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!!!!
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04-15-2005, 02:05 PM
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What's the difference between an enthronement and a coronation?
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04-17-2005, 08:15 PM
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Coronation
Coronation: Crown is placed on Monarch's head...
Enthronement: simple speech, or maybe signing a document or sitting on a throne and taking oath of office Also: "The United Kingdom and the Holy See are the only ones left who do coronations, so when Pope John Paul II's successor is finally selected - we will get to see a papal coronation. Quite a unique thing to experience." Ummm, I don't think that the Holy See has coronations anymore, Vatican II... John Paul II did not have a coronation and I don't believe the next Pope will either.
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04-17-2005, 11:39 PM
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Is one historically better/more important than the other or are they simply two different methods of conferring power?
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04-17-2005, 11:51 PM
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Coronations
The Kingdom of Tonga still has a Coronation ceremony; the current King, Taufa'ahau Toupou IV, was crowned in 1967.
The King of Thailand was "formally enthroned" in 1950, but I don't know if this included a "crowning" as such, although there is a magnificant Royal Crown. King Gyanendra of Nepal was crowned in 2001, and I think King Singhi Wangchuk of Bhutan was crowned in 1974. Coronations are more spectacular and elaborate and generally involve a religious ritual. Enthronements are more akin to a civil marriage - less pomp and circumstance. . Last edited by Warren; 04-18-2005 at 12:23 AM. Reason: added Nepal & Bhutan
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