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05-30-2008, 05:23 PM
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Which country do you think COULD be next to abolish their monarchy?
with the situation in nepal.
Which country do you think could be next to abolish their monarchy?
of all the reigning monarchies in the world, not just europe.
My opinion... I dont want to see another monarchy abolished!!!!!!
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05-30-2008, 05:59 PM
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In Europe.......Monaco.
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05-31-2008, 02:09 AM
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Monaco? Seriously? I highly doubt it.
I'd say Australia is next, most likely.
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06-01-2008, 04:15 AM
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Which is the next Monarchy to go?
Now that Nepal is a republic and the Shahdev's commoners, which is the next one to go? And which is is pretty strong and will survive for a long time to come?
My pick for the ones to go: AUSTRALIA (although it will not make the Windsors a non-reigning house) and BELGIUM (Break-up of the country).
My Pick for the Ones to survive the long haul: THAILAND (Thais love their monarchy), UNITED ARAB EMRATES (The locals are taken care of well enough to never want to be without a Monarchy).
Questions about the House of Windsor: Since they reign in 16 countries, does this mean that all 16 have to get rid of them to make them a non-reigning house or will the United Kingdom declaring a republic means they cease to regin everywhere else.
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06-01-2008, 12:23 PM
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Yes, all 16 would have to get rid of them to make them a non-reigning House.
The UK won't do it, though Australia likely will. Canada won't, either.
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06-01-2008, 03:16 PM
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My Pick for the Ones to survive the long haul: THAILAND (Thais love their monarchy), UNITED ARAB EMRATES (The locals are taken care of well enough to never want to be without a Monarchy).
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The locals maybe, those who profit in the no-tax way of life ... but it appears to me as if a large number of residents might disagree, please note I am not only talking of low-paid foreigners here. Plus a chaos due to the lack of planning (e.g. the new sewage plant at Jebel Ali appears to run at full capacity from day one ... where is the next one?? Also SITA ...). And what do I hear brewing up in Umm Al Quwain over the huge Al Salam City development? Do you truly believe investors will quietly accept this? This might well develop into a problem for real estate credibility ... Appears to me that in the long run something definitly needs to change! Today's trouble shooting might not work forever.
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06-01-2008, 04:06 PM
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We had a poll around here somewhere, to discuss which country would be a republic next - I don't think Nepal made the list at all… people seemed to focus on Spain, Norway or Belgium.
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06-01-2008, 11:09 PM
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My vote is for Belgium, I suppose many of us would have seen that coming. Here's a question, though--Liechtenstein??...Stay or go? I can't decide, but there has been some drama...
Sweden's here for the long haul...
Britons are all monarchists at heart...
I could see Australia managing to abolish the monarchy...
Would anyone notice if Japan abolished its tenno (although it would be a TRAGIC loss)... I would be inconsolable for weeks...
North Korea should abolish its monarchy (Kim Dynasty)...
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06-02-2008, 01:26 AM
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Oh, i don't see that happening in Liechtenstein. if I've got it right, the Royals are far too entwined in government.
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06-02-2008, 05:38 PM
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Oh, i don't see that happening in Liechtenstein. if I've got it right, the Royals are far too entwined in government.
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And very well respected bits people. The people of Liechtenstein voted in favour of giving the Prince more powers!
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06-02-2008, 05:58 PM
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I think that Belgium might go, with all of the drama they're experiencing over there.
Why would Spain's monarchy be abolished? Are the Spanish people not happy with it?
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06-02-2008, 06:10 PM
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North Korea should abolish its monarchy (Kim Dynasty)...
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Yes,yes. You are so right..................
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06-02-2008, 08:52 PM
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I hope NONE of them are on the way out. I think they serve a purpose to their respective peoples...they are a link to it's history and traditions. In the case of Britain the Royals are a great boost to the tourist industry.
However, I don't feel optimistic about any of the remaining ruling Houses, particularly Britain and the Scandinavian countries...the Royals are more and more losing their mystique and many people are getting the idea that they are "just like us". It's fine to have the common touch to an extent of course, but once Royalty loses that certain "something" which even on the surface separates them from the people that they rule and soon you risk people questioning why have a monarchy if they are exactly like us in every way? It's a very slippery slope to a Republic when people stop seeing their Royals as purposeful, noble, dignified and ROYAL.
I am not an old fuddy duddy but I am old-fashioned enough not to want a Crown Princess who is the daughter of the local mailman and I don't care how lovely the woman is...I have said it before but the recent trend of the Crown Princes marrying commoners(and in some cases VERY common indeed) women is eventually going to do more harm than good. I think these marriages are okay and even romantic and great if they happen once in a while. But they should be the exception and not the rule. Marriages between Royalty and the nobility are now the exception, not the rule. So what happens if you have the children of these marriages themselves turn around and marry commoners and it continues on and on...then voila! Where is the link to tradition and history and nobility after a while? There is no bloodline to link or remind their subjects to their pasts. Sure, they might have a cuddly ruling couple who just adores one another and engages in delightful man on the street behavior(like making out in full view and giving revealing interviews to the media) but I feel in the long run this will do harm.
To make my point, just pick up an issue of Point de Vue or Hello! These mags once chronicled the lives or Royals almost exclusively. Now we have Carla Bruni Sarkozy and Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow(shudders) on the cover because people aren't just interested in Royals that much anymore and they don't really sell covers. My guess is because they have lost that certain "something" which made them above and beyond mere celebrities.
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06-03-2008, 02:35 AM
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I would like to see some of the reigning royals make alliances with other RULING houses. But there is something charming about the Cinderella story, after all. Look at what it can do to ensure that monarchies are not abolished.
ex: in the 70s, the Swedish monarchy was living on the edge of termination until the king married an enchanting German-Brazilian commoner, Silvia Sommerlath. The glamorous young couple breathed new life into the Bernadotte monarchy.
The same can be said for Mary Donaldson, although I wouldn't call the Danish monarchy unpopular prior to the marriage, she has added a lot of popularity.
Somehow the younger generation of royals in Belgium just doesn't seem to attract as much attention and popularity as other hereditary couples.
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06-03-2008, 11:57 AM
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I can see Australia becoming a Republic, especially now there is a republican PM who recently said he'd like to see an Australian republic by 2020. I'd agree with Belgium because again the conflict between the Walloons and Flemish and Spain since the monarchy there has been pretty rocky over the past hundred years and anything could happen. Japan I doubt very much since the conservatives are in power but also I think the people still have a really good view of the monarchy. As for my country Papua New Guinea I doubt it would ever become a republic unless of course the monarchy in the UK ends.
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06-03-2008, 12:00 PM
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I read somewhere (not sure where though) that if Monaco doesn't have a monarch it becomes part of France, is this true? Australia is my pick
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06-03-2008, 12:18 PM
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I would like to see some of the reigning royals make alliances with other RULING houses. But there is something charming about the Cinderella story, after all. Look at what it can do to ensure that monarchies are not abolished.
ex: in the 70s, the Swedish monarchy was living on the edge of termination until the king married an enchanting German-Brazilian commoner, Silvia Sommerlath. The glamorous young couple breathed new life into the Bernadotte monarchy.
The same can be said for Mary Donaldson, although I wouldn't call the Danish monarchy unpopular prior to the marriage, she has added a lot of popularity.
Somehow the younger generation of royals in Belgium just doesn't seem to attract as much attention and popularity as other hereditary couples.
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Hi PoC...I love your name by the way! I agree about Cinderella stories being charming and I like them too. But as I said in my post...they are no longer the exception. They are the rule. If every Royal marriage is a "Cinderella" story pretty soon it's not really a fairy tale any more...it's a commonplace occurance that loses it's ability to enchant the audience.
In the case of Belgium, these younger Royals don't attract that much attention and I think this is deliberate. The Belgian Royal house has always been very closed, almost strict...they seem to like to fly below the radar.
I think I admire them more than any of the other ruling houses. I think they are the "classiest" of the group of young Royals. For example...you never see handsome young Prince Amadeo stumbling out of nightclubs with a cigarette dangling out of his mouth. You never see him feeling up his girlfriends. You never hear rumors or bad press about ANY of them with the exception of Laurent and he is from my generation...not the current crop of youngster.
CP Philippe and Mathilde are awesome, they are clearly devoted to one another and their young family, they are religious with a seemingly strong sense of duty to the country and dynasty.
They behave as Royals, not celebrities.
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06-04-2008, 07:34 AM
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I agree with your perceptions about the behaviour of certain young Princes. i also would like to see more marriages between Royaly. I love Princess Mary, Mathilde seems lovely and Metite seems to be doing fine but somehow it just isn't the same. I really did think that Felipe of Spain at least would marry a Royal and I've never really liked Latezia, though she probably is fine. I'm pining my hopes on HGD Guillaime marrying a Princess, I even have a few picked out for him.
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06-04-2008, 07:36 AM
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The Monaco situation is true. I too would pick Australia as the majority of Australians couldn't care less about the Royal Family. They would rather have Queen Nicole.
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