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View Poll Results: In your opinion, which European country is more likely to become a republic?
Belgium 81 20.25%
Denmark 12 3.00%
Great Britain 39 9.75%
Liechtenstein 12 3.00%
Luxembourg 9 2.25%
Monaco 16 4.00%
The Netherlands 4 1.00%
Norway 55 13.75%
Spain 141 35.25%
Sweden 31 7.75%
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:05 PM
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Interesting you bring this up - Dutch television program 'RTL Boulevard' yesterday had an item about this. Their experts bet on both some monarchies in Africa where constituents are struggling wheras the king is living it up like there's no tomorrow. As for Europe, they bet on Belgium. Belgium is already a country in turmoil in some way, what with talk of the nation splitting in two. Its monarchy is not what you'd say a binding element either.

RTLs royal watcher did also say that he believes ultimately, all monarchies will cease to exist but, as he said, not per se in our life time.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:54 PM
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If Australia, Canada or New Zealand did decide to become a republic they would still continue to be in the Commonwealth just like the Republic of South Africa is still a member of the Commonwealth.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:11 AM
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Do they remove themselves from the Commonwealth? Lots of previous Commonwealth Realms have became republics by their own actions and stayed in the Commonwealth as republics. Fiji was even allowed to stay after the monarchy was overthrown in a coup.
My bad; I was typing in a hurry. I meant that they would remove themselves from the Commonwealth Realms, but presumably would still be a Commonwealth Nation.

One interesting side effect... let us hypothetically presume that Canada amends the Constitution to change the Succession to strict primogeniture. And Wills has first a baby girl, then a boy. That girl would become Queen of Canada at Accession, while the boy would become King of the UK. Would certainly be an interesting way for us to develop our own branch of the Royal Family.
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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I Hope to see all 10 Royal Families change Monarchs at least for my lifetime.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:53 PM
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It's kind of a weird thing to hope for someone's--10 someones--death, Royal Fan.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:18 AM
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Not sure how old you are but probably have already seen four - Norway, Belgium, Monaco and Luxembourg and perhaps Liechtenstein if you were around when Franz Joseph abdicated.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:25 AM
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It's kind of a weird thing to hope for someone's--10 someones--death, Royal Fan.
IMO hoping to view a British coronation is not the same as hoping for Queen Elizabeth II to die. I hope to see a British coronation in my lifetime too actually. And for The Netherlands and Luxembourg it doesn' t take a death (and I am sure more monarchs will abdicate in the future that just those from these two countries).
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:51 PM
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I hope all of the current monarchies will be around for many, many years to come. That said, if Belgium were to break up into two separate countries and the monarchy was done away with, I wouldn't be completely surprised.
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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It's kind of a weird thing to hope for someone's--10 someones--death, Royal Fan.
It could also be a hope for a long life on the part of the person wishing it. Realistically, someone who is young and healthy now is pretty likely to outlive many European monarchs (As healthy as Elizabeth II is, she does not have 40 years left).
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:25 AM
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Britons are all monarchists at heart.....
I wouldn't be too sure about that. There are many people in Britain who have no time for the Windsors. I know many who would get rid of them tomorrow if they could.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:50 AM
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The King of Thailand is in his 80s and is completely revered by his 60 million subjects.Unfortunately his son, the Crown Prince, does not command the same respect. Given the volatility of Thai politics, the monarchy may not survive the King's passing.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:39 AM
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. There are many people in Britain who have no time for the Windsors. I know many who would get rid of them tomorrow if they could.
'many' is an interesting term to use, since polling consistently pegs that number as a very, very small percentage of the population.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:24 PM
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'many' is an interesting term to use, since polling consistently pegs that number as a very, very small percentage of the population.
doesn't matter, it's history, tradition, the british monarchy is very established and will certainly not be the first one to go. there are others that need to worry more about being abolished. nothing will happen until HM is alive and as long people are alive who will think of the british monarchy in connection to HM's values and service to the country. much will depend on charles however he will have an easier task than eg Felipe of Spain.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:57 PM
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Mmm, yes. I think it's highly likely that Australia will (attempt to) remove their monarchy upon EIIR's death. That provides for a fascinating issue, as HM is not just Queen of Australia, she is also jointly and severally Queen of the six individual states that comprise Australia. It is therefore possible for Australia to be federally republican while each state still possesses a monarchy. Funny, no?
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I assure you that if our federal body moves to successfully invest a Republican statute, her comprising states, territories and external territories will, unreservedly support it's inaction.

No state, territory or external prefecture would retain The Queen as it's Head of State in light of Australia becoming a Federal Republic.
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My point was that it's entirely possible. Unlikely? Who can say.. I know many Australians that would fight tooth and nail to keep the monarchy, but I suspect that for many of them it's about EIIR specifically, and not the monarchy in general.
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It's a very likely alternative, and will certainly be on the agenda these coming years.

I too know a number of Australian's (go figure) who would like to retain the Australian Monarchy, though they are of a considerable age it must be said.

For every one who does support the monarchy, you'll find three, possibly four or even five, that don't and then those that are undecided and care not of government or politics. Even so, it is EIIR who has the support, not so much the institution for which she inherently stands.

We are an aging population, and those who feel an affiliation with British Imperialism (long gone in practice, may it be) are dropping one by one and their children (the baby boomers) are namely of an indapendant mind as are their children and certainly any younger generations that ensue. Young adults and teenagers (the odd history or political buffs being an acception) have absolutely no regard for the monarchy and probably wouldn't be able to tell you who infact the Prince of Wales is. You can't blame them really. I mean, a man who makes a fleeting visit once every 5 or so years is hardly going to stir interest, let alone be accorded the right to 'inherit' their Australia. And as this Commonwealth has no royal family, they (Charles and his family) are of such a minimal importance, whether he is heir apparent or not. He remains an indefinable figure and has been for quite some time. The generational spill over, I believe is well and truly arrived. It is a mere matter of time.

But when's the best time, that's the question for many.

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Old 06-24-2008, 05:45 AM
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I agree that it's EIIR who has the widespread support. I'm from Malaysia and when the Commonwealth Games were held here, HM attended. I was there at the closing ceremony and when she arrived and drove round the stadium, the whole crowd cheered. Everyone was so thrilled to see the Queen!

We're a former British colony, very pleased to have our independence, but most people I know here have a great deal of respect for HM. She is very highly thought of. Not the same can be said for Charles though. I'm not a particular fan of Diana, but I think it's a pity his marriage with Diana didn't work out - she would've bought the Windsors a few more centuries, I think!
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:23 AM
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And it's likely that William will at least provide a few more decades of stability for the Windsors, if his current popularity keeps up.

Even my anti-monarchist father (who ironically has met several ruling monarchs and other members of royal houses) admits that a British republic is a very remote idea. If the people don't like Charles...they probably won't have to put up with him for long, and there's always William as the "light at the end of the tunnel" for them. And with the prestige that the monarchy provides for the United Kingdom abroad, it's actually quite an asset.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:14 PM
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. There are many people in Britain who have no time for the Windsors. I know many who would get rid of them tomorrow if they could.
Me too! (particularly on Web forums) or just plain indifferent, I'm a staunch Monarchist myself, but I always respect other peoples beliefs even if I don't personally agree with them.

It made my blood boil when I saw a short TV clip of the British anti-monarchy group 'Republic' demonstrating outside Buckingham Palace, saying to American Tourists "would you like to take the Queen home with you"........how very dare they!

If the members of Republic can't bear to live in a Country which has a Crowned Monarch as Head of State then the only constructive thing I can suggest is that they pack their bags and emigrate to the Republican Utopia they dream of, (wherever that may be) and don't bother coming back!
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