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Old 05-29-2008, 07:29 PM
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I would imagine that the Swedish title would take precedence. If not only because they would be the children of a Swedish monarch, but because the Prussian title is strictly courtesy. It would depend on the Swedish government to acknowledge the Imperial and Royal or just the Royal Highness style.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:38 PM
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I would imagine that she actually has the higher rank, as 1) reigning monarchy, not defunct, 2) will be Queen in her own right, same as our dear old Lilibet.
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What's the proper title of Princess Caroline of Monaco since her marriage to Prince Ernst August? Should she be HRH or HSH?
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I'm just back from the Monaco Grand Prix and I took a photo of Princess Caroline as she passed by in her car with the window open!

I understand that she is styled "HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover". When her father was alive, she was lower than him even though he was a serene highness, but he was a ruling prince. This placed her higher than her brother Albert who was the hereditary prince at the time. Her youngest daughter is also a "HRH".
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[quote=LadyK;772141]Generally, the royal spouse takes on the title of the spouse who's title is highest, if that title is transferable. Some royals, most commonly those who are marrying future monarchs, will renounce or stop using their previous titles, usually as a sign of allegiance and fidelity to their new country.

For example, Her Royal Highness Princess Sophia of Greece, upon marrying His Royal Highness Prince Juan Carlos of Spain, adopted her new title as Princess of Spain, later Princess of Asturias and, now, Queen of Spain.

When Prince Philip of Greece decided to marry his distant cousin Princess Elizabeth of England it was decided that since she was to be queen of England, he should adopt her title. Philip then became the Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten. Upon his marriage he became Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. Later, upon the queen's decree, he was titled His Royal Highness Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh.

A more rare circumstance is that of Princess Haya of Jordan and her husband, Sheik Mohammad bin Rashid al Maktoum. Haya, as technically the higher-ranking royal (she is a HRH, he is only an HH) kept her own styling as Her Royal Highness Princess Haya. This is rarer because not only is the higher ranked partner a female but also because he is the ruler of Dubai while she is only the younger sister of the king.


Princess Haya does not outrank her husband being she is not head of state
even though she is a member of a reigning royal family.Her husband outranks her
being he is a reigning royal head of state.
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I believe King Juan Carlos has never been called, or has never been given the title of, Prince of Asturias. The last Prince of Asturias was Prince Alfonso, son of Alfonso XIII. Juan Carlos never had the title due to the course of events leading to the exile of his family, and with his designation as "Prince of Spain" (not "of Asturias") and as next king by Franco, instead of inheriting it.

So Queen Sofia has never been Princess of Asturias.
While on the subject of the SRF, I remember seeing a photograph of the invitation for the confirmation of Elena when she was young and she was listed as "Princess Elena of Spain and Greece" in Spanish (Espana y Grecia)
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That is a bit incorrect, since the SRF is known as de Borbón y Grecia and not España y Grecia. This is so because the SRF goes by the dynastic name of the King, which is de Borbón, combined with Queen Sofia's name/title as Princess of Greece (and Hannover).

Although, if that invitation was released when Franco was still in power, then it may have been preferred to call Elena as Princess of Spain and Greece in keeping with JC's designation as Prince of Spain.

I do hope I am entirely correct.
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Another example is that of Prince Nikolaus of Liechtenstein and Princess Margaretha of Luxemourg. She is HRH Princess Margaretha, Princess of Liechtenstein, Princess of Luxembourg, Princess of Nassau,Princess of Parma, Countess Rietberg. Does anybody know otherwise?
All of those titles are correct except the countess one when I looked on wikipedia
I did not see that title but I saw the rest of the titles that you have listed
on your post.
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This is on the HRH Princess Theodora marrying the prince of Luxembourg.

If they divorced, would she then be known as "HRH Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark", since her courtesy title would be defunct (or something like that)?
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She would probably be Theodora, Princess of Greece and Denmark until she remarried. The HRH style would probably be dropped, I think.
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Except for the fact that she is already known as HRH Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark in royal circles. Without going into a spinning debate about whether or not she actually holds the HRH style legally it is the style that is accorded to her by most of the European courts. The title Theodora, Princess of Greece and Denmark would imply that she is the divorced wife of Prince X of Greece and Denmark, not a Princess of Greece and Demark in her own right.
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