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Lady Louise, daughter of Queen Victoria. She married the Marquess of Lorne (later Duke of Argyll) against the wishes of her mother. They drifted apart eventually, although this may have been because they were unable to have children.
Queen Victoria was against all of her daughters' marriages apart from the Princess Royal's marriage to the future Emperor Frederick. PRINCESS Louise was always a bit of a rebel, but it seems made a success of being the Governor General of Canada's wife, until an accident incapacitated her. I believe the Duke was bisexual and that is why the marriage disintegrated. Sad
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Definitely Caroline and Philip Junot



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But Nicolas II truly and dearly loved Alix!
They were, contrary to the rest of the couples mentioned above, really happy marriage.
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At the moment probably AD Karlof Austria. Half the family stayed away from his wedding to Franscesca Thyssen. And since the couple sadly seperated they gave this self righteous side of the family more reasons to feel self righteous.
And now we have Sofia Helqvist...welcome my Princess of the tattoos and piercings and the nude pix. Ick.
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But Nicolas II truly and dearly loved Alix!
They were, contrary to the rest of the couples mentioned above, really happy marriage.
That's true, they were happy between themselves, but it is considered that Alix' influence on him and on the family's image was catastophic.
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True, but we have no idea if things would have turned out better if Nicholas had married someone else. And things probably would have happened anyway, sooner or later.
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I doubt it. Without WWI Imperial Russia may have struggled forward a bit longer, but the war just changed the whole dynamics. It is unlikely that with another wife the war would have been prevented or would have fared significantly better for Russia. Still, she didn't help, that is for sure.
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Well who cares about the fall of a dynasty as long as your in loooove. :rollseyes:
Regarding Victoria I find it hard to take any objection she had to any of her children's marriages seriously; some of those kids probably just married to get away.
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Alfonso XIII of Spain and Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg.
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I think in this case it was Ena who should ahve listened to her uncle. Edward VII was set against the mnarriage, probably because he knew the kind of an that Alfonso was.
i think in this case also from Alfonso's side there were objections, as i understand it his mother was against the marriage

Bu then, there are probably also cases where the family *were* against but a marriage turned out fine (maybe that's another thread )
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i think in this case also from Alfonso's side there were objections, as i understand it his mother was against the marriage

Bu then, there are probably also cases where the family *were* against but a marriage turned out fine (maybe that's another thread )
As I understand it, Queen Maria Christina wanted Alfonso to marry one of her Habsburg relatives rather than a Protestant princess which she considered to be non-dynastic.

It is quite ironic that, during the recent state banquet in honor of King Felipe VI, Queen Elizabeth II made a reference to Alfonso meeting Ena in the same ballroom at Buckingham Palace as an example of how "state visits can occasionally lead to great personal happiness", even though it is widely known that Ena's and Alfonso's marriage was not a happy one. That just illustrates why one should be skeptical (BrEng sceptical) about everything that is said in speeches like that.
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Definitely Felipe II Habsburg should have listened to the Pope and not marry his own niece.
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