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Old 04-13-2018, 06:47 PM
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Old 04-13-2018, 06:48 PM
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In the Netherlands, you'll find 'de Bond van Oranjeverengingen' (federation of orange associations); many communities have an 'orange association' that organizes activities historically centered around the 'family of Orange' (King's Day is the main event).
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Yes, an organization that supports the monarchy. In the UK there is one.
Is there any in Denmark?

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International Monarchist League

Spain:
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In the Netherlands, you'll find 'de Bond van Oranjeverengingen' (federation of orange associations); many communities have an 'orange association' that organizes activities historically centered around the 'family of Orange' (King's Day is the main event).

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Old 04-13-2018, 06:56 PM
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Yes, an organization that supports the monarchy. In the UK there is one.
Is there any in Denmark?

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https://www.unionmonarquica.es/
AFAIK not an official one.

I guess there is no need for one.

The closest thing to official monarchists are I think the Conservative party.
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Old 04-13-2018, 07:07 PM
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Old 04-14-2018, 04:48 PM
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Other then the Communist Party, is there anything in Japan? From what I understand they are the only ones who'd really try to establish something like a Republic of Japan.

As for Thailand, Bhutan, Cambodia, Brunei, Tonga and Malaysia, I'm not really much of an expert on those states I'm afraid.

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A Frustrated Monarchist

I'm sorry here, but I'm starting to get beyond annoyed here. It might just be a lack of patience or inexperience with the world on my part, I'm only in my early twenties after all, or just something else entirely I'm not aware of. Heck, maybe it's just I was born in the wrong generation or something

Six years I've been a monarchist, I know you guys have been monarchists longer than yours truly but still.

Here are some of the main things giving me headaches:

The constant restoration articles with not a single hint of progress or a referendum. I'm looking at you Albania, Brazil, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Nepal, and Lybia. I mean why the heck do the article at all if, in the end, nothing happens with republicans and trolls saying good riddance.

I'm tired of the constant deadlock in progress of restoration movements with parties and organizations getting nowhere and consisting of people three or four times my age here Like the Alternative for Germany, the Five Star Movement and the French National Front would be better for your nations anyway. You're telling me that a far-right movement with several neo-nazis and fascists and what not would be better than having a simple referendum. You're telling me that you're fine with the status quo. You're telling me that you're fine with not trying something new or different. Don't tell me that a 2500-year-old form of government that ended up getting swept under the rug by Caeser, in the end, is the best form of government.

I'm tired of the idiocy of the members of the former dynasties themselves. I'm still waiting for new leadership in some of the movements here with a pretender that isn't seen as a quake or a lunatic or whatever. I'm still waiting for better PR teams for the former dynasties and the parties supporting them.

I. Want. Immediate. Progress!

I'd like to see a poll, that is realistic, with restoration in the 30s or maybe the 40s. I'd like to see some more solid debate instead of the same old same old going on with the banana republics of Brazil, Italy, Romania, and Greece. I just want at least something good to happen.

For the longtime members, how do you put up with this? Why isn't much progress being made? Don't give me the usual republicanism is the future okay.

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Old 09-10-2018, 12:15 AM
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Progress towards what?

The monarchist movements in the countries you mention are very small. They may write their articles but they know that the vast majority of the population want no part of the restoration of their monarchies.

Until or unless there is close to a chance of success the existing governments won't go with a referendum and they know there is no chance so they aren't going to waste the taxpayers money on a folly.

Many countries with a monarchy often have a larger support base for getting rid of the monarchy than any of the countries you have named have for restoring one.

I came to this site a dedicated monarchist but if given the chance, for Australia, I would vote for a republic now. I know we will get the chance again sometime into Charles' reign - it may not happen then but it is on the agenda of the ALP here and there are also many in the Liberal Party who are republicans.

It is more likely that there will be fewer monarchies in the future than there are now. At least two of the Queen's Caribbean realms are regularly talking about voting her out (and they don't need a referendum of the population to do so - just a majority in the parliament but again respect for The Queen is largely now holding them back).

Republicanism and merit based choices for Heads of State is the future, not re-establishing a system that has been discredited in the countries you mention.

You are from the United States. How strong is the movement there for the re-establishment of the monarchy? Surely that is where you should be beginning rather than worrying about the democratic choices in other countries that don't want to go back to a system that limits their own citizens ability to be the Head of State of their nation.
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Progress towards what?

The monarchist movements in the countries you mention are very small. They may write their articles but they know that the vast majority of the population want no part of the restoration of their monarchies.

Until or unless there is close to a chance of success the existing governments won't go with a referendum and they know there is no chance so they aren't going to waste the taxpayers money on a folly.

Many countries with a monarchy often have a larger support base for getting rid of the monarchy than any of the countries you have named have for restoring one.

I came to this site a dedicated monarchist but if given the chance, for Australia, I would vote for a republic now. I know we will get the chance again sometime into Charles' reign - it may not happen then but it is on the agenda of the ALP here and there are also many in the Liberal Party who are republicans.

It is more likely that there will be fewer monarchies in the future than there are now. At least two of the Queen's Caribbean realms are regularly talking about voting her out (and they don't need a referendum of the population to do so - just a majority in the parliament but again respect for The Queen is largely now holding them back).

Republicanism and merit based choices for Heads of State is the future, not re-establishing a system that has been discredited in the countries you mention.

You are from the United States. How strong is the movement there for the re-establishment of the monarchy? Surely that is where you should be beginning rather than worrying about the democratic choices in other countries that don't want to go back to a system that limits their own citizens ability to be the Head of State of their nation.
You're wrong. There are strong moves to restore some monarchies. In Portugal, for example, there are more and more people considering themselves to be monarchists, including young people. As long as referendums are not made in these countries you know if these people want monarchy or republic.
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I'm sorry here, but I'm starting to get beyond annoyed here. It might just be a lack of patience or inexperience with the world on my part, I'm only in my early twenties after all, or just something else entirely I'm not aware of. Heck, maybe it's just I was born in the wrong generation or something

Six years I've been a monarchist, I know you guys have been monarchists longer than yours truly but still.

Here are some of the main things giving me headaches:

The constant restoration articles with not a single hint of progress or a referendum. I'm looking at you Albania, Brazil, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Nepal, and Lybia. I mean why the heck do the article at all if, in the end, nothing happens with republicans and trolls saying good riddance.

I'm tired of the constant deadlock in progress of restoration movements with parties and organizations getting nowhere and consisting of people three or four times my age here Like the Alternative for Germany, the Five Star Movement and the French National Front would be better for your nations anyway. You're telling me that a far-right movement with several neo-nazis and fascists and what not would be better than having a simple referendum. You're telling me that you're fine with the status quo. You're telling me that you're fine with not trying something new or different. Don't tell me that a 2500-year-old form of government that ended up getting swept under the rug by Caeser, in the end, is the best form of government.

I'm tired of the idiocy of the members of the former dynasties themselves. I'm still waiting for new leadership in some of the movements here with a pretender that isn't seen as a quake or a lunatic or whatever. I'm still waiting for better PR teams for the former dynasties and the parties supporting them.

I. Want. Immediate. Progress!

I'd like to see a poll, that is realistic, with restoration in the 30s or maybe the 40s. I'd like to see some more solid debate instead of the same old same old going on with the banana republics of Brazil, Italy, Romania, and Greece. I just want at least something good to happen.

For the longtime members, how do you put up with this? Why isn't much progress being made? Don't give me the usual republicanism is the future okay.

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I agree with you, but there are monarchist movements that work:

Serbia:
Kingdom of Serbia Association

I still dream about the restoration of some monarchies. : flores:
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I agree with you, but there are monarchist movements that work:

Serbia:
Kingdom of Serbia Association

I still dream about the restoration of some monarchies. : flores:
Listen, I appreciate you trying to cheer me up and all but isn't the Serbian movement considered a joke or something? The problem I see is that there are plenty of former monarchies with opinion polls having restoration in the teens and twenties percentage wise like Germany, Brazil, Italy, Romania, and Russia while at the same time the organizations that actually try to expand that rather impressive, at least in my opinion, numbers tend to be not taken seriously and are usually associated with the farthest of the far-right.

I don't want to see a 100% monarchist world, just a few additional constitutional monarchies in our current world to have trolls and Republicans quiet down at least a little and realize that there are ways of having stable and sufficient countries. I'd be fine if just between 1-5 nations restored theirs, as long as Italy is one of them because I like their royalist flag and coat of arms. Maybe put Brazil, Romania, Libya, and possibly Russia on that list as well because why not.

Maybe one reason why I don't like presidential republics is that of the division it can create with them rarely having approval ratings above 50% and often times at around just 10% approval, I'd probably be indifferent towards the idea of form of government if this didn't constantly happen just about everywhere I look. Yeah sure some of the political cartoons are very hilarious and I enjoy watching John Oliver and the Late Show with Stephen Colbert and all but in the end, you realize that the person being mocked is still head of state and commander in chief of a military. Now you might have sympathy and respect the office like I once did but it gets old after many repeats.

I honestly don't have a problem with democracy but I hate how it just seems like a popularity contest these days, I can't be the only one with that opinion. Isn't compromising with differing opinions a main feature of democracy? Nowadays, its all about radicalism about refusing to cooperate to get anything done and deadlocks for everyone involved meaning that governments get shut down or reforms don't get carried out in the end, seriously why is shutting down a government a thing in a democracy, to me that just seems like something that a nation like Venezuela could do.

I admit constitutional monarchies could have the same problem but at least the highest office in the land, the king/queen or emperor in Japan's case, isn't actively encouraging it like the president in the nation and that's another reason I admire constitutional monarchies to the point where I consider myself a royalist.

In a way, I appreciate the whole constant worry of opinion polls in current constitutional monarchies because the royal families are constantly trying to fulfill a unifying and stable symbol for the nation while fearing the possibility of getting voted out via referendum and I like that. Republics just don't have that option of doing a new system, just doing a different face each time and that just annoys me for some reason.

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