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Old 01-31-2018, 10:35 PM
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Improving Monarchist Parties

How about we talk about the monarchist parties/organizations in republican nations like France, Brazil and Germany. What do you think the parties should do differently in order to attract more support in their nations to improve the chances of monarchist restorations? Should they try advertising, should they try more charity in their own nations, should they find pretenders that want to be restored to the throne and have them campaign along side the parties? How should they improve themselves is what I'm asking?

It is nice to see that there are parties in republics but is disappointing that the votes are only in the thousands and not receiving any seats in the national parliaments.

Now here are some parties to consider:

For France we have the Royal Alliance

For Germany we have Tradition und Leben (Tradition and Life in English)

For the Czech Republic we have the Koruna Ceska (Czech Crown in English)

For Austria we have the Black-Yellow Alliance

For Greece we have National Hope

For Poland we have the Conservative-Monarchist Club

For Brazil we have the Pró Monarquia

And this is just the tip of the iceberg for monarchism in republics. Now the question is what should be done to improve these organizations to make them more popular?

-Frozen Royalist

P.S. Please do not bring up the Independent Royalist Party of Estonia, I still feel like slapping my forehead every time I think about those jokers.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:39 PM
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I should iterate that it is okay to talk about the struggles these parties are facing, but it should be discussed about how to attract popular support and appeal to greater numbers of their fellow countrymen. Just discuss gaining more support and popularity.

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Old 02-01-2018, 07:01 PM
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So nobody feels like doing some research or doing a discussion here? They are the means of monarchist restorations after all, well partly at least but still. Wouldn't it interest why organizations/parties like the Royal Alliance in France or National Hope in Greece never gets enough votes to enter the nations' parliaments. Or how about how the monarchists in Brazil still haven't established a party capable of entering the nation's government. Or how about the leaders of said organizations/parties, hasn't anybody here been curious about the leaderships or the men and/or women behind the groups trying to reestablish the crown in their countries. We have always discussed about the royal families and their positions in the various threads of former monarchies like Iran, Nepal, Austria and Portugal but we hardly ever discuss the parties/organizations. So maybe we should talk about the organizations/parties themselves in order to understand the prospects of restorations themselves better.

Maybe I just made another failed thread again...

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Old 02-01-2018, 07:31 PM
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I don't like one issue parties, so as much as I like to see more monarchies, a political party only focusing on that one issue wouldn't get my vote (if I was a citizen of a republic, which I am not).
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Old 02-01-2018, 07:35 PM
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I would think that the reasons these parties aren't winning seats in their respective governments is that there isn't any real support for their aims.

Their very failure shows the lack of support for restoring the monarchies. These countries have all moved on from the idea of monarchy to one of democracy and republicanism.
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Old 02-01-2018, 07:38 PM
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So nobody feels like doing some research or doing a discussion here? They are the means of monarchist restorations after all, well partly at least but still. Wouldn't it interest why organizations/parties like the Royal Alliance in France or National Hope in Greece never gets enough votes to enter the nations' parliaments. Or how about how the monarchists in Brazil still haven't established a party capable of entering the nation's government. Or how about the leaders of said organizations/parties, hasn't anybody here been curious about the leaderships or the men and/or women behind the groups trying to reestablish the crown in their countries. We have always discussed about the royal families and their positions in the various threads of former monarchies like Iran, Nepal, Austria and Portugal but we hardly ever discuss the parties/organizations. So maybe we should talk about the organizations/parties themselves in order to understand the prospects of restorations themselves better.

Maybe I just made another failed thread again...

-Frozen Royalist
One of the problems, if not the major problem with monarchist parties or monarchist movements in many countries is that they seem to be frequently aligned with far-right groups and tend to support an outdated version of "executive monarchy", which puts many people off. That is certainly the case with the followers of the so-called Vassouras pretender to the throne of Brazil. I understand the "Petrópolis branch" is more aligned with a liberal constitutional monarchy, but they don't seem to be interested in the restoration of the monarchy, unlike their far-right cousins.
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How about we talk about the monarchist parties/organizations in republican nations like France, Brazil and Germany. What do you think the parties should do differently in order to attract more support in their nations to improve the chances of monarchist restorations? Should they try advertising, should they try more charity in their own nations, should they find pretenders that want to be restored to the throne and have them campaign along side the parties? How should they improve themselves is what I'm asking?

It is nice to see that there are parties in republics but is disappointing that the votes are only in the thousands and not receiving any seats in the national parliaments.

Now here are some parties to consider:

For France we have the Royal Alliance

For Germany we have Tradition und Leben (Tradition and Life in English)

For the Czech Republic we have the Koruna Ceska (Czech Crown in English)

For Austria we have the Black-Yellow Alliance

For Greece we have National Hope

For Poland we have the Conservative-Monarchist Club

For Brazil we have the Pró Monarquia

And this is just the tip of the iceberg for monarchism in republics. Now the question is what should be done to improve these organizations to make them more popular?

-Frozen Royalist

P.S. Please do not bring up the Independent Royalist Party of Estonia, I still feel like slapping my forehead every time I think about those jokers.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:40 PM
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Monarchist parties would need to propose a solution to a problem that people have. Most people probably don't care if the head of state is a monarch or a president. Monarchist parties would need to show why changing to a monarch would directly affect people, for the better.

It's an uphill battle. Systems of government usually don't change absent a major crisis, war or the like. How many countries just decided to change from a monarchy to a republic or vice-versa without something like World War II happening? Very few.
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The order is wrong. Not the monarchist parties (the software) have to be improved. The former Royal Houses themselves (the hardware) need vast improvement. As long as there remain disputes in all those former Royal Houses, any monarchist party is useless.

And when there IS unity in those former Royal Houses, then comes the truly Sisyphean Task to convince people that a system in which a certain lady's womb determines the head of state is actually way superior over a system in which the citizens of a country have their own say on the matter.
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The order is wrong. Not the monarchist parties (the software) have to be improved. The former Royal Houses themselves (the hardware) need vast improvement. As long as there remain disputes in all those former Royal Houses, any monarchist party is useless.

And when there IS unity in those former Royal Houses, then comes the truly Sisyphean Task to convince people that a system in which a certain lady's womb determines the head of state is actually way superior over a system in which the citizens of a country have their own say on the matter.
There is no need of monarchists parties but of associations promoting Monarchy.
It is unfortunately true that there are too many divisions in some former Royal Houses and in some of them there are doubts about Succession.
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