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Old 12-05-2013, 09:35 PM
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For monarches far back in the history i have to say Queen Margaret I of Sweden, Norway and Denmark. In modern times i have to say Pope John Paul II, King Bhumibol of Thailand and Queen Elizabeth II
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:03 AM
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Most Successful Monarch

Hello,

this is my first post here. I look forward to discussing all things royal with you.

My question is who do you think rates as the most successful monarch throughout history and why?

Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria in the UK leap to mind as they oversaw golden ages and unified the country. Or perhaps Alfred for laying the foundations for a unified England. Who else from around the world?
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:07 AM
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:24 AM
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queen margrethe of denmark she was able to be relatable to everyone in her country a friend , a sister , a mother and a grandmother while still being regal .
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:35 AM
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When Queen Elizabeth passes away, she will make that list too.
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:56 AM
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In this age with only protocollary monarchs it will be difficult to find "bad monarchs" as their roles are extremely limited and ceremonial. So it soon turns out into a popularity contest. One can say: Leopold II was a great monarch because he did Grand Works in Belgium. Or Leopold II was a bad monarch because of the atrocities in the Congo.

But these days the royals are simply the puppets in their theatre of state, so what is "a good monarch" is hard to define. Is Harald bad? Is Margrethe good?

Some will argue that King Baudouin and Grand-Duke Henri were poor monarchs because they did not understood their place in the democratic constellation, when they refused to sign a Bill. Others will argue that these two are good monarchs because they remained true to their personal conscience despite the democratic majority thinking differently.

The question is hard to answer in 2016 with the monarchs only as ornaments of state.
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:49 PM
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True, though you could put the Swedish king in the list of monarchs that did not handle things quite as they should.
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:13 AM
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
Yeah, I agree. I think that length of reign is a factor too, and ideally stability should be taken into account.
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
This i have to completely agree with it is becoming more and more common for king's and queen's to pass down the crown in much worse state than the got it handed to them. I was sat watching a Royal Family DVD the other night and it is astonishing some of the things our kings and queens have been through to get where they are today.

At the end of the day it's not easy being a leader of a country so we have to give them a little leeway.....
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