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Old 06-08-2009, 03:55 AM
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On the future of the Commonwealth, I think it will continue after the death of the Queen. Views that it is a 'poor man's version of the Empire' are its strength - all members nations from rich and industrialised Australia, Canada and the UK to the smaller, less developed nations of Africa and the Pacific; are welcomed into the group and are active participants in activities, something which larger, more general groups such as the UN fail to do.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:11 AM
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It may very well continue but I see it changing to having a rotating head. In other words I don't think Charles would be acceptable to some of the countries as a permanent Head of the Commonwealth.
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Trinidad and Tobago's Newsday : newsday.co.tt :

The Queen is going to Trinidad for the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:21 AM
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It may very well continue but I see it changing to having a rotating head. In other words I don't think Charles would be acceptable to some of the countries as a permanent Head of the Commonwealth.
Who would the headship rotate amongst? The Crown is what most of the Commonwealth members have in common and is really its reason for being. It should stay with Charles upon his ascension.
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I didn't think a headship could rotate?
And I really doubt that it will, your right that the crown is the one thing that the commonwealth has in common, why would they want to get rid of a link that makes them known to the world?
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:36 AM
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The majority of the countries in the Commonwealth are republics and ask why their Head of State can't be Head of the Commonwealth for a period of time. Why should it be the Head of State of Great Britain all the time?

Yes you can have a rotating headship. It happens in Malaysia and the EU with alternating heads.

The Crown isn't the link anymore - afterall we now have countries who have never been British as members e.g. Madagascar I think it is that has joined without that link to Britain at all.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:58 AM
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But would that mean rotating the Soverign aswell. That would be ridiculous. The head of the commonwealth is the Soverign of the United Kingdom. What good would rotating this title do?

Giving this title to Governer-Generals or Prime Ministers of people in the commonwealth would be difficult, knwoing how each and every country works, would take a while to learn. Whereas the Soverign already knows this information and has formed personal links with these countries herself. Why break them?

The EU rotate headship so that decisions are not made biasly and because the Eu is larger than the commonwealth. The Queen seems to have managed for quite some time dealing with the commonwealth.

What do you mean about Madagascar?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:07 AM
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I mean that the Head of State of say India is Head of the Commonwealth for two years and then the Head of State of South Africa followed by Trinidad etc.

Why should it be the Head of State of the United Kingdom if all the countries are equal?

Sorry it isn't Madagascar but Mozambique - that was a Portuguese colony and never a British one joined the Commonwealth so it is no longer an organisation made up of countries that had been part of the British Empire. Non British Empire countries are now able to join.
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I realised what you meant about the rotating Head Of State, and all countries are equal but the Head Of the commonwealth has always been the Head of State in the UK, thats how its always been and the Commonwealth Countries know that.

"The 1949 London Declaration ended this, allowing republican and indigenous monarchic members on the condition that they recognised the British monarch as the 'Head of the commonwealth'

And as I said before it would a nightmare if the head of the commonwealth of nations changed every year. 5 countries in the Commonwealth of Nations already have distinct monarchies, as you said thirty two members are republic I think they have enough to worry about without adding the commonwealth of nations to it aswell. The Commonwealth secretariat changes every 8 years. Kamalesh Sharma from India is Secretariat at the moment.

Also are you suggesting rotating the headship between the Commonwealth Nations or the Commonwealth realms?
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The fact that it is a condition of membership that countries recognise the British King/Queen as Head of the Commonwealth simply means that a rotating head won't happen. A rotating headship would also ruin the one real link the member states have with each other.
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The idea that Charles won't be the Head of the Commonwealth has been around for about 10 years with a range of models suggested, including one that the Head should be someone from a Third World country to break the link between the idea of colonisation - i.e. recognise that the colonised are truly equal and that the Empire is dead.
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Isn't the host of the CHOGM meeting the de facto head of the Commonwealth as they set the agenda for that meeting and it is the only time the members meet as a group? Much as the Prime Minister is the de facto leader of the nation as they are in charge of the day to day operations of the government.

Therefore, a Head of the Commonwealth would not need to come from a Third World country as they already get a turn. Besides, there would be so many problems figuring out who it should be, how long they should serve for if it were possible etc if a rotating headship was chosen - which lumutqueen has already pointed out is not possible
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Science and technology key to better lives, says Queen

The Queen has urged Commonwealth countries, including Australia, to help young people take advantage of cutting edge technology to improve their lives.

Delivering her annual Commonwealth Day message to the 54-member nations on Monday, March 8, the Queen highlighted the important role science and technology played in giving people a better quality of life.

A message from Her Majesty The Queen, Head of the Commonwealth

Today's societies are constantly seeking ways to improve their quality of life, and science and technology play a vital part in that search.

ELIZABETH R

Richard Kay 8 March 2010 | Mail Online

For nearly 60 years, it has been one of the Queen’s highlights of the royal calendar, the only occasion apart from Christmas Day when the sovereign broadcasts to all 54 nations of the Commonwealth and its two billion citizens.

But as she marks Commonwealth Day today by attending a special service at Westminster Abbey, a shadow is hanging over the celebrations — and at its heart are doubts over whether the Prince of Wales should succeed her as Head of the Commonwealth.
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The Queen to miss Commonwealth Games for first time in 44 years | Mail Online

The Queen will miss this year’s Commonwealth Games – for the first time since England won the World Cup.

Aides say it is down to a heavy workload and that Prince Charles will represent the Royal Family in India. A message of support from the Monarch to the athletes will be read out.
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I find that a bit disappointing. After all, I'd have thought the Commonwealth would have vanished altogether by now if she hadn't been so committed to it over the years.
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I can understand why she isn't coming, Prince Charles has to step up sometime.
I don't think the Commonwealth would have disappeared.
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India angry as Queen to miss Commonwealth games | Sport | The Guardian

Britain's new "enhanced partnership" with India got off to a rocky start today as Delhi reacted angrily to a decision by the Queen not to attend the Commonwealth Games this autumn.

After breathlessly reporting that Indo-Anglo relations had topped the foreign policy part of the Queen's speech, India's media gave the decision to send Prince Charles instead front-page treatment. "Royal Snub", read one headline. Noting that the monarch, 84, has attended every games except the 1966 Kingston event, papers quoted organisers and athletes angered by the decision.
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I think it's worth noting that these are only the second games ever to be held outside of one of the Queen's realms. In all (but one) case of the Queen attending the games, she's also gone as queen of the host country. That's not to say there's no significance in her attendance at games in other countries, but I don't think it's quite the same.
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Why Queen will skip Games- Hindustan Times

It is not the British Queen who has decided to stay away from the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi — rather her surprise absence from India in the autumn will be the result of a decision taken by the former Labour government.
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