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Old 09-12-2019, 04:45 PM
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10 Sept 1939 Canada enters the Second World War. PM King asks George VI to approve the petition from the Privy Council.

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Old 09-12-2019, 05:06 PM
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10 Sept 1939 Canada enters the Second World War. PM King asks George VI to approve the petition from the Privy Council.

Very interesting. Thank you.

I find the date stands out since Britain had declared war on the 3rd.
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:17 PM
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Very interesting. Thank you.

I find the date stands out since Britain had declared war on the 3rd.
That was precisely the point. In 1914, the Dominions were not recognized yet as sovereign states in international law. Thus , when the UK entered Workd War I , Canada was automatically at war too. That was no longer the case, however,, in 1939 according to the interpretation of the Canadian government and the King’s Privy Council for Canada had to petition His Majesty in his capacity of King of Canada to authorize a separate declaration of war.
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Old 09-13-2019, 04:28 PM
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That was precisely the point. In 1914, the Dominions were not recognized yet as sovereign states in international law. Thus , when the UK entered Workd War I , Canada was automatically at war too. That was no longer the case, however,, in 1939 according to the interpretation of the Canadian government and the King’s Privy Council for Canada had to petition His Majesty in his capacity of King of Canada to authorize a separate declaration of war.
I did know about about the Statute of Westminster in 1931 & the evolution of the old dominions as fully independent states but I wonder why Canada took an extra seven days to make a decision whereas Australia & NZ declared war on the same day as the British.
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:36 PM
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I did know about about the Statute of Westminster in 1931 & the evolution of the old dominions as fully independent states but I wonder why Canada took an extra seven days to make a decision whereas Australia & NZ declared war on the same day as the British.

Optics.

The then Prime Minister said that he was going to let Parliament decide if Canada went to war, and at the time the House of Commons was on break. The Canadian MPs were recalled on August 31st in anticipation of the war being declared, but because of the size of Canada and the speed of travel in 1939 it took a week for them to arrive in Ottawa.

The House then debated the issue for 3 days. There was opposition to joining the war from the Quebec MPs (the Quebecois did not have the same affection for Britain and Europe that English-Canadians did) and from the socialist CCF party.
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I did know about about the Statute of Westminster in 1931 & the evolution of the old dominions as fully independent states but I wonder why Canada took an extra seven days to make a decision whereas Australia & NZ declared war on the same day as the British.
Also, in 1939 Australia and New Zealand had not yet ratified the Statute of Westminster so it was not in effect for them as it was for Canada. Therefore, like in WWI, when Britain declared war on Sept. 3, 1939 Australia and New Zealand were automatically at war also. Canada, as stated in another reply above, debated the issue and parliament declared war a week later on Sept. 10, 1939.

As a personal aside: I remember being told as a child that my grandparents were annoyed/embarrassed that it took us an extra week to do the right thing.
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