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Old 07-13-2017, 12:44 AM
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I'm excited for a change in GG as I'm not a huge fan of how current GG David Johnston has fulfilled the role.
Interesting - and (if you have time) can you explain why?
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Her Majesty The Queen, on the recommendation of The Prime Minister of Canada, Mr Justin Trudeau, has approved the appointment of Ms. Julie Payette as the next Governor General of Canada

Ms. Payette will serve in succession to His Excellency the Right Honourable David Johnston who has served since 1st October 2010.

The installation ceremony for Ms. Payette will take place later this year.

Julie Payette OC, CQ
Julie Payette is an astronaut, engineer, scientific broadcaster and corporate director.

From 1992 to 2013, Ms. Payette worked as an astronaut and flew two missions in space. She also served many years as CAPCOM (Capsule Communicator) at NASA’s Mission Control Center in Houston, Texas, and was Chief Astronaut for the Canadian Space Agency.

She is well respected for her work in developing policies to promote science and technology. From 2011 to 2013, she worked as a scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and was appointed scientific authority for Quebec in the United States. Between July 2013 and October 2016, she served as CEO of the Montréal Science Centre.

Ms. Payette is active in multiple facets of the community. She has produced several scientific outreach short programs on Radio-Canada and is a member of McGill University’s Faculty of Engineering Advisory Board. She has served on the boards of the Montréal Science Centre foundation, Robotique FIRST Québec, Drug Free Kids Canada, and the Montreal Bach Festival. She has long served on the board of Own The Podium, a granting organization dedicated to high performance sport in Canada, and has recently been appointed to the International Olympic Committee Women in Sports Commission. She has served as a Director of Développement Aéroport Saint-Hubert de Longueuil and of the National Bank of Canada.

Ms. Payette is a member of the Ordre des ingénieurs du Québec and a fellow of the International Academy of Astronautics. She obtained an International Baccalaureate from the United World College of the Atlantic in the United Kingdom, a Bachelor of Electrical Engineering from McGill University, and a Master’s in Computer Engineering from the University of Toronto. In addition, Ms. Payette can converse in six languages, holds a commercial pilot license and is an administratrice de sociétés certifiée (ASC is equivalent to the Institute of Corporate Directors, Director [ICD.D] designation).

Ms. Payette has received many distinctions and 27 honorary doctorates. She is a Knight of the Ordre national du Québec and an Officer of the Order of Canada.
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Interesting - and (if you have time) can you explain why?


Hmm.. it's hard to put into words.

Part of it is that I don't particularly like his public speaking style; for me I find him hard to connect to when he speaks.

Part of it, though, is that he's an older, while male who really had an "old boy's club" demeanour to him. I think if he's been appointed prior to Adrienne Clarkson and Michaëlle Jean I wouldn't have given his tenure a second thought, but because of the different approach that they took to the role I was a bit disappointed by the more traditional approach David Johnston has taken...

Clarkson and Jean are both individuals with their flaws and controversies, and I think they both made missteps in regards to the role they were expected to play in relation to the Queen - particularly in that they both acted as though they were the head of state, rather than the head of state's representative.

But they both had these amazing traits that revitalized the role. They are both well educated women who came to Canada as refugees and had broadcasting jobs before becoming GG (not immediately before, but in their background). This I think made them more interesting to watch/listen to when doing speeches than Johnston, and I really think helped influence a different attitude towards Canada than Johnston has. I loved how Clarkson made this point of travelling extensively within Canada to meet with Canadians. I loved how she was this huge promoter of Canadian arts, and how she worked with Aboriginal groups (which is something Canada is not good at). Jean was less active than Clarkson, but she continued this work and I loved how she did things like partaking in the Inuit seal feast shortly after the European Parliament banned the import of Canadian seal products. I loved how she went to Africa to promote women's rights and blogged about her experience.

Johnston, I feel, has been somewhat less... lively. He's played it safe; he doesn't have the same controversies as his predecessors, but I also feel like he doesn't have the same achievements either. That and the controversies he's been involved in.... his two immediate predecessors are a black woman and a Chinese woman who worked closely with Canada's Aboriginals. Johnston is a white man who refused to engage with Aboriginal leaders during the Idle No More movement and recently referred to the Indigenous people of Canada as "immigrants".
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I like that he was a monarchist and strong supporter of the military. And as a white man myself, I certainly won't hold that against him. Go white men!
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:53 PM
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Hah... it's not that he's a white man persay, it's... how to put it into words.

There's been a lot out of the Conservative Party of Canada the last couple years - since the niqab issue really came up under the Harper government - about "old stock" Canadians; that is Canadians who are of white, European descent. There is something inherently racist, xenophobic, and in my opinion un-Canadian about that attitude. Canada has become a country of multiculturalism and diversity, and while we definitely have an issue with racism it's something that I feel we should be work towards overcoming, not embracing.

David Johnston is by no means a racist and has actually spoken against that type of thinking, but in being an older, white man appointed under a Conservative government he does kind of represent that idea of "old stock Canadians" that the Conservative Party has tried to push.

It's something that he's in a tough spot to overcome... were Clarkson or Jean GG at a time when the government of Canada was preaching the values of "old stock Canadians" they wouldn't have ever looked like agreed simply because they are women of colour. But Johnston is in a position where he has to speak out against it, but because of his avoidance of appearing to be political (which I don't criticize him for at all - he shouldn't be), he's in a hard spot to be more vocal against such attitudes, when it's coming from the government.

Again, it's not really something that Johnston himself can be faulted for, and I think had he been GG in the 90s or early 2000s, it's not something that would have been an issue. Or if he'd followed Clarkson or Jean, instead of both... or even if he'd taken more of a middling approach between their approach and the GGs of old's approach....

That said, Rudolph, I do agree with you on his being a monarchist, and that being a good thing. I think one of the biggest weaknesses that Clarkson and Jean had compared to Johnston wasn't that they weren't monarchists (Clarkson has outright called herself a monarchist), but that they didn't have the grasp of the legalities of their role... they made GG more about Canada and less about the monarch (not entirely a bad thing), and presented themselves as the head of state instead of the head of state's representatives (which I thoroughly disagree with). In this regards, I think Johnston has done much better than either of them did. But I think there's more to it than just that, and it's in other regards that I think he lacked.
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David Johnston will pay his final visit to The Queen

Sharon and I will be in #London next week to bid farewell to HM The Queen and to celebrate #Canada150* @CanadianUK bit.ly/2uZVvKx Via Twitter

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For the last time as Governor General, I will be meeting with Her Majesty The Queen this afternoon at Buckingham Palace. @RoyalFamily
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Here are pics of their meeting today:


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Governor General David Johnston breaks royal protocol by touching the Queen as she leaving from Canada House

Canada's Governor General blames 'slippy' carpet for royal protocol breach - BBC News
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Governor General David Johnston breaks royal protocol by touching the Queen as she leaving from Canada House

Canada's Governor General blames 'slippy' carpet for royal protocol breach - BBC News


I think this entire article is completely nonsensical! The Queen is 91 the natural reaction is to ensure she doesn't fall. I think Her Majesty is on the ball enough to know that people are being protective of her rather than 'breaching protocol'. Clearly a slow day at the BBC!!
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In one way the Governor General and the High Commissioner caused the problem my walking either side of the Queen rather than allowing her to go first so she could move to the side and hold the handrail as the DoE did. That said I don't think its a massive problem or something the Queen would be bothered about at all. As RoyalProtocol said the Queen was probably aware they were only trying to help rather than be too overfamiliar or breach protocol.
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Old 07-20-2017, 11:31 AM
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Indeed, RoyalProtocol.

He was being an attentive gentleman!
Does the "protocol" dictate that it's better to let QEII fall?

What a silly thing to write.
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Imagine the headlines if something had happened and the Queen did fall. Two bumbling statesmen stood there and allowed the Queen to tumble. Thats a headline we certainly don't need.
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It was the daily fail who started this nonsense yesterday, and now there are stupid articles about it in almost all UK news sites.

The BBC has also written a stupid article about the Regal rules for meeting HM - read more:
Regal rules: The dos and don'ts for meeting the Queen - BBC News
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Canada's governor general has been forced to defend his actions after a "slippy" carpet led to a breach of royal etiquette with the Queen. But how do you avoid a protocol slip-up?

David Johnston raised eyebrows on Wednesday as he was seen to be lightly touching Her Majesty's elbow as she descended some steps, at an event in London.

Mr Johnston said he was simply concerned about the Queen's safety and made the judgement that a breach of protocol was appropriate "to be sure that there was no stumble".

To avoid any future mishaps, however, here is a reminder of the traditional dos and don'ts.
Video - CTV Royal Commentator Richard Berthelsen says the GG’s attempt to escort the Queen down the stairs was a nice gesture. He also said the following: The rules of the british press, which loves to go after people for things like this, when they themselves offends the royal family more often than not, really aren't to be followed:
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Video - CTV Royal Commentator Richard Berthelsen says the GG’s attempt to escort the Queen down the stairs was a nice gesture. He also said the following: The rules of the british press, which loves to go after people for things like this, when they themselves offends the royal family more often than not, really aren't to be followed:
CTV News Channel: 'A gentlemanly gesture' | CTV News

This is beautifully put.

Standard protocol is the Queen is not to be touched, but we have seen many occasions in which case that has been broken, and LOGIC sometimes proceeds protocol.

An individual providing support for a 91 year old woman as she walks on a slippery surface is just logical. I'd bet just about anything that the Queen probably appreciated the gesture.
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At seven years, David Johnston’s tenure as Canada’s governor general has been a little longer than the norm — the longest since Georges Vanier held the office from 1959 to 1967 — and it has covered a turbulent period in Canada’s political history. Johnston, a lawyer and university president before he came to Rideau Hall, welcomed Maclean’s to a sunlit corner of his official residence for a valedictory interview as he prepares to leave office on Oct. 2.

Johnston was candid about the two prime ministers he’s served, the debates that surrounded his appointment, and the inevitable debate over the future of the monarchy in Canada..
Read more: David Johnston: Before abolishing the monarchy, know what you're getting into - Macleans.ca
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Q: Your other main interaction is with the Queen. Tell me about your last visit with her.

A: It was a bit nostalgic there because we both knew it was the last time we would see each other in this capacity. Of course the Queen is now 91. She’s remarkably physically and mentally acute, and it’s wonderful to be with her. We’ve found both her and her husband so down to earth, so warm, and in her case so very wise. Each time we’ve had the chance to meet I’ve had the sense of someone who’s seen more history than any other living person. It’s been quite a thrill to interact with her.

Q: She’s been the monarch for every Canadian-born governor general, from Vincent Massey to you. When her reign ends, would it be an appropriate time for a debate about the role of the monarchy in Canada?

A: Well, I’m sure there will be, as this debate is going on at all times, and appropriately so in a democracy. And other realms in the Commonwealth will have that debate. My own view is that we have an Act of Succession, the succession is clear, and my role and that of the other members of the vice-regal family is to make that as smooth as it possibly can be.
When I do get into these debates, very often with schoolchildren, I say, ‘You know, Canada has evolved since 1867. We’re the product of a thousand years of constitutional history. We’ve made changes, when changes were appropriate, in how we govern ourselves. But always be conscious of what it is you want. And if you’re making change, why that change seems quite compelling, and what you’re getting into. And if you wanted to name 10 countries around the world that seem to have government that pretty well satisfies the needs of the vast majority of people and has a degree of trust, you’d probably have on that list: Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, Canada. What’s common to those? They’re all constitutional monarchies with vigorous parliamentary democracies. So something has been working well for us.
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Canadian Governor General Designate Julie Payette was received by Queen Elizabeth for a private audience at Balmoral Castle today, September 20:


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Twitter video of the audience in this article:
Incoming governor general Julie Payette meets the Queen - Politics - CBC News

I have one thing to say after watching that video, and it's that the Queen is just so damn cute sometimes.

Article from the fail (yes I know, but really worth a read/watch) It's about the library at Balmoral - one of the two rooms HM is using for audiences at the castle, but not the room she is using for british prime ministers:
Balmoral photo reveals the Queen's private space | Daily Mail Online
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