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Old 06-30-2016, 10:22 AM
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Because it's such a non-issue politically speaking that people feel they can safely vote for "republican" parties?

There aren't "republican" parties, not in the way (I think) you're thinking.

There are 5 main parties in the federal sphere - the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, Green, and Bloc Québécois.

The Conservatives and Liberals are the two powerhouses, and it's always one or the other that forms the government (typically with the other being the Opposition). The NDP are the socialists, the Green the environmentalists. The NDP is the only one that would be an obvious republican party, but they don't actually have a republican platform. The Green have never had more than 5 seats in Parliament, and I don't believe have a republican platform either.

The Bloc Québécois have a republican platform (I believe), but they're the Canadian equivalent to the SNP, and unlike the SNP have been declining in power for the past 20 years.

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I think Australia and Canada are in the same boat on this issue, for similar reasons. Though many of us want one of our own as our head of state rather than a foreign monarch, the US experience is more than a bit scary. The Queen doesn't interfere in the way we run things, members of the RF don't visit very often but when they do they are pleasant enough and don't frighten the horses. They provide a bit of entertainment and a chance for our upper echelons to get out their posh frocks and wear their bling, but then we pat them on the head and send them off back home and get on with life.

I disagree that Canadians and Australians are in the same boat. The Aussies have a clear republican movement. This movement routinely gains support and is a basis for politics within Australia. However likely or unlikely it is to succeed, it's clearly there.

Canada does not have a clear republican movement. The major, non-separatist parties in Canada don't have republican platforms, and there is very little clamour for there to be such a movement. People sometimes fuss about the "foreign" queen, but for the most part they accept the status quo.

I don't know about constitutional reform in Australia, but I do know that in Canada it's a massive can of worms. We weren't even able to get all 10 provinces to sign the constitution, and we would need all 10 provinces in agreement to change it. Politicians in Canada go to lengths to avoid having to do that for a reason.
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There aren't "republican" parties, not in the way (I think) you're thinking.

There are 5 main parties in the federal sphere - the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, Green, and Bloc Québécois.

The Conservatives and Liberals are the two powerhouses, and it's always one or the other that forms the government (typically with the other being the Opposition). The NDP are the socialists, the Green the environmentalists. The NDP is the only one that would be an obvious republican party, but they don't actually have a republican platform. The Green have never had more than 5 seats in Parliament, and I don't believe have a republican platform either.

The Bloc Québécois have a republican platform (I believe), but they're the Canadian equivalent to the SNP, and unlike the SNP have been declining in power for the past 20 years.




I disagree that Canadians and Australians are in the same boat. The Aussies have a clear republican movement. This movement routinely gains support and is a basis for politics within Australia. However likely or unlikely it is to succeed, it's clearly there.

Canada does not have a clear republican movement. The major, non-separatist parties in Canada don't have republican platforms, and there is very little clamour for there to be such a movement. People sometimes fuss about the "foreign" queen, but for the most part they accept the status quo.

I don't know about constitutional reform in Australia, but I do know that in Canada it's a massive can of worms. We weren't even able to get all 10 provinces to sign the constitution, and we would need all 10 provinces in agreement to change it. Politicians in Canada go to lengths to avoid having to do that for a reason.
Agree: republicanism in Canada is a non-issue I would add to the above the relationship between the Crown and First Nations as yet another reason why the Crown retains its importance in Canada, even though I agree with a previous poster that the relationship needs to be clarified and foregrounded as many Canadians are not aware of this special sense of belonging between Crown and First Nations.
Interestingly, the Prince of Wales is establishing an ever increasing presence in the Canadian consciousness. His charities have created a Canadian office; his various patronages include many Canadian organisations and his website even includes the Canadian family link for the Duchess of Cornwall! In this way, I believe the Prince is slowly preparing for the future that will include Canada for the BRF.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:11 AM
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I don't think it's surprising that republicanism has more support in Australia. Canada and Australia both started out as federal collections of British territories, but their national identities developed very differently. Unlike Canada, Australia developed in relative isolation, with Britain as the only really influential power, so people who sought to create a more distinct Australian identity only really had one thing to differentiate themselves from. Canada, on the other hand, has always had a powerful neighbor with a strong cultural influence. In 1867, there was still a very real fear of American military power too. So its national identity was driven by being not-American just as much as (if not more than) it was by being not-British.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:35 AM
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Royal Norway mentioned about finding it odd that Canada should have a foreign Head of State. Although I can see why you'd find it that way, Royal Norway, I think you'd find that Canadian monarchists don't think of the Queen as a foreigner. Yes, she speaks with an English accent, and she lives across the ocean from us; but she seems to enjoy being here so much, and we're so used to seeing her, that she seems to be one of us. She's simply our Queen.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:26 AM
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:51 AM
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As regards the article in the link above, by a Canadian republican.

Well, Jeffrey, I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by referencing Julia Gillard as your role model PM. She was, at the end of her term, deeply unpopular with the Australian electorate, which is why the Labour parliamentary wing dumped her. As far as her republicanism went, she had far too many other things to worry about than the Queen of Australia, and I say that as a lifelong Labor supporter!

As for not curtseying, most Aussies haven't curtsied (or bowed for that matter) for over thirty years or so when royals visit us including our Queen. However she's still our Head of State and Julia's gone.

By the way, does Jeffrey know that the 'tall and graceful' Ms Gillard was such a republican PM that she attended William and Kate's wedding in 2011 with her partner Tim, and stood in line with other Commonwealth leaders at the reception? Saw her there, looking as pleased as Punch.

Also he obviously doesn't know that she was featured in the Australian Women's Weekly of June 2013 with a photo of her knitting a woolly Kangaroo, which according to the magazine was a gift for the Royal couple's baby due to arrive that month. The article was entitled 'Julia's Royal gift'. She was laughed at for this piece of desperate opportunism, but it's hardly a very republican sort of thing to do. Is it, Jeffery?
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:08 AM
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:28 AM
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Regarding a former post, maybe stop your squabbles; only the general public of whichever Commonwealth country involved will nod to ye or ney! Nothing to do with anyone else (aftermath aside).

On the last post re. Canadian's identfying FB members ..... I occasionally watch Tipping Point (UK game show) which in the final game often have Royalty as a subject.

It is amazing how many UK mainlanders have no idea about the members of the fairly immediate RF!
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:29 AM
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Canadian hosts appear happy with royal future - BBC News

It's really up to the young royals to help things get better and for them to continue the ties with the Canadian people.
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Old 10-19-2016, 11:51 AM
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The Queen is presented with a maquette of a statue of John McCrae, writer of "In Flanders Fields" 🇨🇦
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:00 PM
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This is great news! That area of Canada needs all the park area it can get.

I can't see any government attacking this issue. It really isn't on the national radar as something that has to be "fixed." Besides, all the provinces have to agree to it because it would be a change in the constitution. The view on the monarchy always runs about 50/50.

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Old 12-27-2016, 05:58 PM
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I was going to say... I don't see this being touched unless there's a huge demand for the monarchy to be removed. The headache that is an overhaul of the constitution is going to discourage any political upheaval.
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The Queen sends her best wishes for the 150th anniversary of Confederation. @RoyalFamily

https://twitter.com/GGDavidJohnston/...63487849390081
And for those of you who don't understand French, here is the written version of the message in english:

https://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=16669&lan=eng
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