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Old 09-04-2015, 04:14 PM
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As the Queen prepares to overtake Victoria as our longest-reigning monarch next week, she is being compared with the Queen Empress. It is true that both women became icons of their country. Both represent an idea of stability and duty. But they are also extreme contrasts.

If Victoria were alive today, her behaviour would make the monarchy totter. Her depression, over-excitement, selfishness, partisanship, outspokenness, favouritism and laziness would become apparent, via the media, to the world.

Even at the time, it was a constant struggle to prevent her opinions becoming known. To Gladstone, her most detested prime minister, she wrote to threaten abdication if he reformed the House of Lords. She “will not be the Sovereign of a Democratic Monarchy”, she told him. Luckily, her private secretary made sure the letter was not sent.
Read more: The secret of Queen Elizabeth II's record reign: faith, patience, and a touch of cunning - Telegraph
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Old 09-04-2015, 07:26 PM
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Suppose the Queen had expressed a dislike for socialism, or Scotland, or organised religion, or immigrants, or soldiers, or any of her 16 realms or some of her prime ministers. (Although she did have a forgivable soft-spot for the father-figures who awaited her when she came to the throne – Robert Menzies of Australia and Winston Churchill.) Suppose she had got drunk or shown her boredom or leaked secrets or fallen in love with the wrong man.

Suppose, in short, that she had been anything other than what she has been, and you will see how unhappily things would have turned out.

I do not believe that the Queen has avoided all this by cow-like placidity. She has done it because she has acted in character; and it is part of her own character to put her role before her self.

Her more wayward sister, Princess Margaret, used to say, with admiration and perhaps a twinge of envy: “Lilibet has always known the right thing to do.” In such a role, the “right thing” mixes morality with a touch of cunning. The Queen showed it last year, emerging from Crathie church. A fellow-parishioner asked her about the forthcoming referendum on Scottish independence. She said she was sure the Scottish people would think very hard before making their decision.

It was not banal to say something like that: it was clever, because it went exactly as close to conveying a view as she could. It was also morally correct for someone in her position: it attributed good motives to the voters, rather than telling them what to do.

This reconciliation of monarchy and democracy is not a freakish coincidence, but a real political discovery of the 20th century. Any list of the top 20 democracies in the world today would include Britain, Sweden, the Netherlands, Canada, Denmark, Australia, Norway and New Zealand. Elizabeth II is Queen of half of these nations. The combination of monarchy and democracy helps a country be free and secure at the same time.

In a less direct way, as head of the Commonwealth, the Queen exercises this peaceful influence over more than a quarter of the population of the world. Rather surprisingly, Queen Victoria – for all her high and mighty ways – was furiously opposed to race prejudice, and saw her imperial role as upholding what we nowadays call “universal values”. The present Queen has worked out a modern version which the post-colonial world can respect. Look at the extraordinarily powerful effect of her visit to Ireland in 2011. No politician can do that sort of thing.

None of this has been easy, and if people think it has been – well, that only goes to show how adroitly the Queen has played the part.

How has she done it? By statecraft, which is subtle, but also by her faith, which is simple. She is what the Bible calls “pure in heart”. Those who have worked with her observe how she is content, each day, if she has done her best and said her prayers. It is almost unique in the whole history of the world to have lived under such a sovereign for as long as most people can remember.
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Old 09-04-2015, 07:34 PM
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Queen 'to make rare public speech' on day she overtakes Victoria as longest-reigning monarch - Telegraph
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The Queen is expected to address the people of Britain and the Commonwealth in a short speech at a Scottish railway station when she sets her record on September 9

The Queen is expected to make a rare public speech thanking her British and Commonwealth subjects for 63 years of support when she becomes our longest-reigning monarch on Wednesday.

The station will be open to the public, who are expected to attend in their thousands to share in the Queen’s achievement. Television crews from all over the world will also be broadcasting the event, and the Queen may decide to use the opportunity to address not only the people of Britain, but of the 53 nations of the Commonwealth, an organisation whose success is her proudest achievement.
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That Telegraph extract, quoted, is a beautiful tribute to our Queen.
Particularly, she is indeed "pure in heart".
I wonder whether she herself will take the opportunity to pay a tribute to the great Queen Victoria, "Victoria the Good".
It is in my opinion a fitting occasion to think of these two magnificent reigns and how they have united so many people in admiration.
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The moment the Queen learned of her father's death: Astonishing mix-up over royal telegram is revealed in 76-page souvenir magazine celebrating her record-breaking reign FREE in this weekend's Mail On Sunday | Daily Mail Online
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The Mail on Sunday's celebration of the Queen's life and work pays tribute to her roles as Monarch, mother and fashion icon.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:16 PM
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Very few people can say that they make an era.
QEII is one of them, we live in the second Elizabethan Era, there are people with grown grandchildren who have only lived under her reign, just amazing to think about.
I think her historical significance will only be seen when she is no longer amongst us.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:45 PM
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Very few people can say that they make an era.
QEII is one of them, we live in the second Elizabethan Era, there are people with grown grandchildren who have only lived under her reign, just amazing to think about.
I think her historical significance will only be seen when she is no longer amongst us.
Count me among one of those with grown grandchildren and one great grandchild that only remembers The Queen. Actually, I was born in the reign of her father, George IV, but he died before I was a month old. Although I am an American, I can't remember a time not knowing who Queen Elizabeth II was and I think if asked to identify various persons from a slide show of 100 people, 99% of them would instantly recognize HM.
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:01 PM
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I have one adult grandchild and others who are a bit younger. I can remember the Queen's Coronation, though I was only small. It was televised within Britain and I saw it on an extremely small screen, on a neighbour's TV set. There was a Coronation party at the house before we watched the ceremony! I can remember the images being very black, white and grainy! People like my aunts talked about the King's funeral but I can't remember anything of it.

When Victoria died apparently people said "She was on the throne when I was born and I expected her to be still there when I died." and those alive today will probably have those same feelings,... some time long into the future.
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Count me among one of those with grown grandchildren and one great grandchild that only remembers The Queen. Actually, I was born in the reign of her father, George IV, but he died before I was a month old. Although I am an American, I can't remember a time not knowing who Queen Elizabeth II was and I think if asked to identify various persons from a slide show of 100 people, 99% of them would instantly recognize HM.
Now hold on, you are 185 years old?! No, I think you meant George VI (although George V would still be possible).

I wish the younger generations of the Windsor family were more like Queen Elizabeth, they should really work harder to reach the level she has set. Anne is very close though.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:42 AM
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Now hold on, you are 185 years old?! No, I think you meant George VI (although George V would still be possible).

I wish the younger generations of the Windsor family were more like Queen Elizabeth, they should really work harder to reach the level she has set. Anne is very close though.
'...they should really work harder.' Princess Anne and Diana, Princess of Wales both, in my opinion had and have work ethics.

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Now hold on, you are 185 years old?! No, I think you meant George VI (although George V would still be possible).

I wish the younger generations of the Windsor family were more like Queen Elizabeth, they should really work harder to reach the level she has set. Anne is very close though.
Catharina, how do you know how our fellow poster is not 185 years old and if they are, can they please pass on the secret of their longevity!
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:18 PM
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ITV bows to longest-reigning Queen as Susanna Reid and Kate Garraway say ť“Good Morning Ma’am” - Mirror Online
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The station’s breakfast show changes its name on Wednesday as Elizabeth II overtakes Victoria who held the throne for 63 year and 216 days

Good Morning Britain is changing its name to Good Morning Ma’am next Wednesday as the Queen becomes Britain’s longest-reigning monarch.

The ITV breakfast show is celebrating the milestone with a special programme dedicated to the Queen as she overtakes Queen Victoria to reign for more than 63 years 216 days.

The special programming is starting from Monday but the show will only change its name on Wednesday - something it has not done since its launch in April 2014.
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Old 09-05-2015, 05:20 PM
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It seems so very sad, in my opinion that The Queen, if this is true, knew of her fathers death after others. I know that one of the ladies with her spoke, years later of how The D.O.E had said that privately he and HM had wanted a few more private years but it wasn't to be. Her composure on coming down those steps as a bereaved daughter and new Queen were breath taking.
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Old 09-05-2015, 05:37 PM
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Catharina, how do you know how our fellow poster is not 185 years old and if they are, can they please pass on the secret of their longevity!
Trust me, there are days I wake up and feel that old.

Most certainly I did mean George VI but as many long time posters here will tell you, I have troubles keeping them numbers straight.

As far as work ethics in the royal family, I really don't think it can be measured from person to person as each one is unique in and of themselves. I think a major difference too between then and now is that we do live in a global society where a burp can be heard around the world in mere seconds.
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Trust me, there are days I wake up and feel that old.

Most certainly I did mean George VI but as many long time posters here will tell you, I have troubles keeping them numbers straight.

As far as work ethics in the royal family, I really don't think it can be measured from person to person as each one is unique in and of themselves. I think a major difference too between then and now is that we do live in a global society where a burp can be heard around the world in mere seconds.
I know feeling! And some days feel like a week. I think we can have some idea how much work is done by written publications by individual royals, press coverage, Court Circular and individual charities. I really do believe that H.M, D.O.E and Princess Anne have impressive work ethics. I believe that they have a sense of duty that shines through. Just my opinion, you youngster:)
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... and the best part of everything is that if you're having a bad day, you can go back to bed and get up again and start your day over again if you want to.

Oh I definitely agree that the elder royals do above and beyond what would normally be required of them. Charles and Anne both have impressive accomplishments to their names. As time goes by, perhaps we'll be seeing the same dedication in the younger set of the royal family. Children learn by example and in a way, I'm seeing Will, Kate and Harry getting their ducks all in a row to follow in their elders' footsteps. Who knows what the list of accomplishments will be credited to their names 50 years from now. By then I should be a ripe old 235 years old.
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Osipi, you go for it! Aim high, go for 300 years old so you can see Prince George's first engagements.
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Osipi, you go for it! Aim high, go for 300 years old so you can see Prince George's first engagements.
What the heck, I'll aim for both George's and Charlotte's weddings. I do so love royal weddings.
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I'm planning to purchase the special Ł20 coin featuring HM's maturity during her reign to add to my growing collection of royal memorabilia. It will now span from George V's silver jubilee (handed down to me from my grandparents, who had an interest in royalty - my mother always says that she skipped the royalist genes and I got them instead ) right up until HM's milestone of being Britain's longest reigning monarch.
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Some more articles from The Telegraph that have been written for the special occasion:

The Queen is 'a still point in a tumultuous world' - Telegraph
Queen Elizabeth's 63-year reign captured in souvenir postcards - Telegraph
Alan Titchmarsh: every time I have met Queen Elizabeth II it has been hugely rewarding - Telegraph
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THE hills will be alive with the sound of bells in Swansea and South West Wales to mark the moment the Queen becomes the nation's longest serving monarch.

Mumbles resident Tony Cottle has organised Wednesday's region-wide peal, which involves around a dozen churches and cathedrals, including All Saints Church, Oystermouth, St Mary's Church, Swansea, St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire, plus churches in Llangyfelach, West Cross, Penclawdd and Llanrhidian.

He said he simply phoned the various parishes, and even contacted the Archbishop of Canterbury, whose representatives explained their focus would be on Her Majesty's 90th birthday on April 21 next year.

"I thought we had to do something," said Mr Cottle. "It is such a momentous occasion."
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What the heck, I'll aim for both George's and Charlotte's weddings. I do so love royal weddings.
. That is more like it! Me and you, on here discussing the wedding gowns and flowers!
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