Queen Elizabeth as Monarch, Mother and Grandmother

[Lumutqueen]

Could I just point out that there is one problem with the survery, the last question you have to rank The Queen's importance, it doesn't say whether 1 or 5 is the highest.

[Sanyo]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

Could I just point out that there is one problem with the survery, the last question you have to rank The Queen's importance, it doesn't say whether 1 or 5 is the highest.

Sorry, but there was no option for this, when I was creating this survey. Anyway, 5 is the highest. Thank you!

[scooter]

Hello Sanjin, Welcome to the royal forums. My mothers family is from Mostar as well, with the family name of Markic and Knesovic. I hope you will enjoy it here.

[LadyGrinningSoul]

Thanks Sanjo, I just completed this. Good luck with your essay, and if you would like to do any more surveys or ask questions about Britain/The Monarchy feel free to message me.

[king of scotland]

I am sure some of you have seen this but I think it is great to see the Queen enjoying time as a Grandmother!

‪The Queen with grandchildren at Balmoral‬‏ - YouTube

[Daria_S]

Originally Posted by king of scotland

I am sure some of you have seen this but I think it is great to see the Queen enjoying time as a Grandmother!

That was adorable .

Some of my favorite moments included the 'Ow! That's my foot you're standing on!' said I believe to Princess Eugenie. I also loved the moment when Beatrice wanted to follow her older cousins on the trail, and Granny kept telling her that one day, when she's bigger, she'll go with them too. Though it would appear that when it became obvious the child was going to get a little more upset, she decided to have them venture out a little farther on the trail. I really enjoy watching those types of clips. They give a small glimpse inside the family dynamic.

And was that William who was leading Beatrice's horse? If so, what a gentleman, even at the young age.

Thank you for sharing.

[XeniaCasaraghi]

LMAO, Eugenie had to weigh like 25lbs when she was standing on her grandma's foot.

[roseroyal]

Originally Posted by king of scotland

I am sure some of you have seen this but I think it is great to see the Queen enjoying time as a Grandmother!

So natural.... she was not behaving that way, just for the TV cameras. In this, I saw a true Granny, not the Queen of England.
In multiple books I have read how the Queen has no patience with crying grandchildren. This is proof to the contrary.

[roseroyal]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

What Elizabeth and Philip did to Charles was awful, but I know that is what was done at the time, to leave them in the hands of a nanny and go of to do her royal duties.
She has learnt her lesson with her grandchildren, and I think takes a lot of time to be with them.

I have no experience personally with this- my grandparents were doting on my parents, and they were doting on me. But I have heard of plenty of people, who said that they felt they were better grandparents than parents.
I have also read this in several press interviews with several older people in the public eye. So I do not think the Queen was alone in this.
What she and Phillip did to Charles was awful, but she did her best, with what she knew at the time, with a huge burden on her shoulders. What she did was unacceptable now, but back then, that was not the case.
I agree with you about how she is now as a grandmother.

[sirhon11234]

Originally Posted by king of scotland

I am sure some of you have seen this but I think it is great to see the Queen enjoying time as a Grandmother!

This video is adorable. It is great to see the Queen as a doting grandmother.

[nascarlucy]

Enjoyed watching the video.

It's interesting when you parents tell you that your grandparents were stricter with them than you. That's what I was told. Grandparents seem to have a lot more patience than the parents do. When you are a grandmother, you've raised children, so you know how they operate.

[IloveCP]

That video is so cute!

[VictoriaStyles]

Perhaps I have an odd perspective on Her Majesty but I'll post it anyway.

My Mother was raised a Japanese aristocrat. In some ways, the Japanese were very much like the British. When my brothers and I were growing up, my Mother was never one for open displays of affection. She and I used to fight about it all the time when I was a teenager. I had the comparison of my father who was very open about displaying affection to us kids and to Mom as well.

Three months after my older son was born (and UI had a niece and nephew that were 11 months old), my oldest brother committed suicide. That event completely changed my Mom. It's a hell of a way to learn but in the aftermath of his death, she learned to value open, physical displays of affection such as hugging. As a result, my sons and the other grand-kids never felt the same lack of affection from my Mom that my brothers and I did when we were growing up. They never knew the doubt of whether she loved them because she was not typically American in her demonstration of affection.

I think the Queen had the same type of restraint when it came to showing affection. I also think that as times changed, she was able to change some along with it and become more openly affectionate. She will probably never be what one could call "doting" in public but if you are accustomed to dealing with a more restrained type of person, you can see all through her married life that she had genuine and deep feelings for both her children and her grandchildren. Naturally, being affectionate comes easier the longer you do it and I think that's a lot of what we are fortunate enough to get a peek into.

One of my favorite "Granny Lillibet" videos that I have ever seen is on YouTube. It is a short footage taken through a window showing Her Majesty and Prince William dancing together in a hallway or some such. They are dancing modern dance and you get glimpses of HM's face. She is having a wonderful time. If anyone wants, I'll dig it up and post it.

I am also going to take the opportunity to say something that has stuck in my craw for years. The so-called "cold speech" she gave after Diana's death....if you are familiar with that sort of restrained personality, you could see a ton of emotion in her face and voice. You could see and hear how much she was personally grieving and holding up for the sake of the Princes. I think she acted correctly in a nearly untenable position of choosing between her grandsons' needs and the desires of her subjects.

The one thing I have always gotten from her appearances is how deeply she loves and cares. I'm glad that she has lived long enough to be able to express her feelings more freely in private, if not always in public.

[American Dane]

Originally Posted by VictoriaStyles

Perhaps I have an odd perspective on Her Majesty but I'll post it anyway.

My Mother was raised a Japanese aristocrat. In some ways, the Japanese were very much like the British. When my brothers and I were growing up, my Mother was never one for open displays of affection. She and I used to fight about it all the time when I was a teenager. I had the comparison of my father who was very open about displaying affection to us kids and to Mom as well.

Three months after my older son was born (and UI had a niece and nephew that were 11 months old), my oldest brother committed suicide. That event completely changed my Mom. It's a hell of a way to learn but in the aftermath of his death, she learned to value open, physical displays of affection such as hugging. As a result, my sons and the other grand-kids never felt the same lack of affection from my Mom that my brothers and I did when we were growing up. They never knew the doubt of whether she loved them because she was not typically American in her demonstration of affection.

I think the Queen had the same type of restraint when it came to showing affection. I also think that as times changed, she was able to change some along with it and become more openly affectionate. She will probably never be what one could call "doting" in public but if you are accustomed to dealing with a more restrained type of person, you can see all through her married life that she had genuine and deep feelings for both her children and her grandchildren. Naturally, being affectionate comes easier the longer you do it and I think that's a lot of what we are fortunate enough to get a peek into.

***One of my favorite "Granny Lillibet" videos that I have ever seen is on YouTube. It is a short footage taken through a window showing Her Majesty and Prince William dancing together in a hallway or some such. They are dancing modern dance and you get glimpses of HM's face. She is having a wonderful time. If anyone wants, I'll dig it up and post it.***

I am also going to take the opportunity to say something that has stuck in my craw for years. The so-called "cold speech" she gave after Diana's death....if you are familiar with that sort of restrained personality, you could see a ton of emotion in her face and voice. You could see and hear how much she was personally grieving and holding up for the sake of the Princes. I think she acted correctly in a nearly untenable position of choosing between her grandsons' needs and the desires of her subjects.

The one thing I have always gotten from her appearances is how deeply she loves and cares. I'm glad that she has lived long enough to be able to express her feelings more freely in private, if not always in public.

** is this the video you are referring to? I hate to say but I'm pretty sure it's not real and is two actors pretending to be William and the Queen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu813...e_gdata_player

I completely agree with you about the Queen simply being a person with much restraint on her emotions IN PUBLIC. My father is the same way, I have no doubt he loves me and cares about me but he's not the hugging, etc type since that was the type of family he was brought up in. The Queen acted as she should after Diana's death -- plain and simple IMO. She took notice of those who matter (William and Harry) instead of the people outside the palaces who expected her to do something that was unprecedented and not in William or Harry's best interests.

[VictoriaStyles]

That is the video I was referring to. I certainly hope it's really them and not a pair of actors because it is charming and quite a bit of fun. Of curse, if it really is them, then they are obviously having invaded what little privacy they do manage to get. :::sigh::: I guess there's no right in this one.

[Iluvbertie]

There are a number of things that say 'false' to me.

One the fact that it is through windows. Given how far the windows etc are from public viewing areas there is no way that anyone would be able to take that sort of footage.

Two - William doesn't really look like him.

The room looks fake - not as rich as the rooms at any of the palaces really are and too cramped.

Finally - at the end of the video it is 'created by xxxxx'.

Sorry but this simply screams false and fake to me.

[wbenson]

I believe it's one of a series of videos made to spoof security breaches at the palace.

[VictoriaStyles]

Rats, and it was such a charming video. Oh well, at least I have the consolation that their privacy was not invaded in that manner.

[Mermaid1962]

The creator of that video, Alison Jackson, is known for making video and photographic spoofs of the Royal Family. I think she did the one spoofing the Royal Wedding, the one where Prince Harry does hand-springs down the aisle.

[KittyAtlanta]

Fake, but cute. I remember, some time past, that either Wills or Harry were filmed dancing with the Queen. Anyone else remember that???