The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #1  
Old 09-27-2019, 01:04 PM
Commoner
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Monsey, United States
Posts: 24
Prince Phillip's Qualities

As an American I have to admit that I don't know much about Prince Phillip, as much as the rest of the family (obviously other than what is written about him). I would like to think there is a reason that Queen Elizabeth seems to simply adore him, and that he has redeeming qualities, but he comes across as a grouch. You hear things like he sent Charles to his alma mater as a child where Charles was bullied and miserable, he didn't like Diana, won't be in the same room as Fergie, that even though the Queen is the "Queen," he is really the pants in the relationship/family and rules it with an iron fist. Surely there is some light you guys can shed to me on him in regards to positive characteristics of him.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-27-2019, 01:37 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland, United Kingdom
Posts: 255
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissPeach77 View Post
As an American I have to admit that I don't know much about Prince Phillip, as much as the rest of the family (obviously other than what is written about him). I would like to think there is a reason that Queen Elizabeth seems to simply adore him, and that he has redeeming qualities, but he comes across as a grouch. You hear things like he sent Charles to his alma mater as a child where Charles was bullied and miserable, he didn't like Diana, won't be in the same room as Fergie, that even though the Queen is the "Queen," he is really the pants in the relationship/family and rules it with an iron fist. Surely there is some light you guys can shed to me on him in regards to positive characteristics of him.
He was a highly regarded naval officer who gave up his career for the queen, there was no question of him carrying on in the navy as her consort. He saw active service in the war. I think we also have to remember the times they lived in,when they were first married, the husband/ father was the decision maker and they followed that as almost a way of giving him his place at least within the family.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-27-2019, 03:21 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Torrance, United States
Posts: 4,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissPeach77 View Post
As an American I have to admit that I don't know much about Prince Phillip, as much as the rest of the family (obviously other than what is written about him). I would like to think there is a reason that Queen Elizabeth seems to simply adore him, and that he has redeeming qualities, but he comes across as a grouch. You hear things like he sent Charles to his alma mater as a child where Charles was bullied and miserable, he didn't like Diana, won't be in the same room as Fergie, that even though the Queen is the "Queen," he is really the pants in the relationship/family and rules it with an iron fist. Surely there is some light you guys can shed to me on him in regards to positive characteristics of him.
IMHO he's been a supportive and caring grandfather to his four grandsons and four granddaughters especially to those who experienced a divorce between their parents. Prince Phillp had a similar situation in his own childhood, so he appears to go out of his way to have been a nurturing grandfather to them.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-27-2019, 09:28 PM
Osipi's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 13,991
Philip is and was a man's man. Straight shooting, stand up kind of guy. He doesn't mince words but also is known for his "gaffes" that can be insulting or funny depending on how you look at it. He's loyal to a fault. He can be a stubborn old goat set in his ways. He's a tinker that likes to look at things and come up with innovative ways of doing things and modernizing. It took time but he found his niche within the "Firm" and was even the chairperson when they had meetings of the "Way Ahead" group to plot the future of the "Firm". He's established The Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme that is far reaching across the globe. He's the type of man that love to be active and would be late for his own funeral if he had any say in it.

He has always been the patriarch of the family. Once upon a time, the Queen and Philip were driving in the car (Margaret Rhodes, the Queen's cousin was also there). The Queen was "backseat driving" and Philip, without mincing words, told her to "shut up or you're going to walk". Margaret later said to the Queen, "You're the Queen. Why did you shut up?" HM responded, "I didn't want to walk". This couple has had their ups and downs and "I love you but I don't like you too much right now" days just like every other couple. They respect each other's individuality and don't need to be in each other's back pockets all the time. They have endured for going on 72 years together and the Queen sees Philip as "her strength and stay".

As far as Philip insisting on Gordonstoun for Charles' education, I think he did have Charles' best interests at heart but he didn't realize fully just what his son's character makeup was really like. Charles could probably, at the time, be deemed the negative to the photo of Philip's personality. It worked for Philip and made a man out of him but it was a miserable existence for Charles. Anne is really more like her dad than any of the other siblings and she's a no nonsense, straight up personality just like her dad.

Philip is the longest serving consort to the British monarch and his life span is an interesting one. He's earned his place in British history and has been stellar in his service to Crown and Country.

My favorite quote of Philip's has to be "You have mosquitoes. We have the press."
__________________
No law can be sacred to me but that of my nature. Good and bad are but names very readily transferable to that or this; the only right is what is after my constitution, the only wrong what is against it.

~~~Ralph Waldo Emerson~~~
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-28-2019, 08:40 AM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland, United Kingdom
Posts: 255
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osipi View Post
Philip is and was a man's man. Straight shooting, stand up kind of guy. He doesn't mince words but also is known for his "gaffes" that can be insulting or funny depending on how you look at it. He's loyal to a fault. He can be a stubborn old goat set in his ways. He's a tinker that likes to look at things and come up with innovative ways of doing things and modernizing. It took time but he found his niche within the "Firm" and was even the chairperson when they had meetings of the "Way Ahead" group to plot the future of the "Firm". He's established The Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme that is far reaching across the globe. He's the type of man that love to be active and would be late for his own funeral if he had any say in it.

He has always been the patriarch of the family. Once upon a time, the Queen and Philip were driving in the car (Margaret Rhodes, the Queen's cousin was also there). The Queen was "backseat driving" and Philip, without mincing words, told her to "shut up or you're going to walk". Margaret later said to the Queen, "You're the Queen. Why did you shut up?" HM responded, "I didn't want to walk". This couple has had their ups and downs and "I love you but I don't like you too much right now" days just like every other couple. They respect each other's individuality and don't need to be in each other's back pockets all the time. They have endured for going on 72 years together and the Queen sees Philip as "her strength and stay".

As far as Philip insisting on Gordonstoun for Charles' education, I think he did have Charles' best interests at heart but he didn't realize fully just what his son's character makeup was really like. Charles could probably, at the time, be deemed the negative to the photo of Philip's personality. It worked for Philip and made a man out of him but it was a miserable existence for Charles. Anne is really more like her dad than any of the other siblings and she's a no nonsense, straight up personality just like her dad.

Philip is the longest serving consort to the British monarch and his life span is an interesting one. He's earned his place in British history and has been stellar in his service to Crown and Country.

My favorite quote of Philip's has to be "You have mosquitoes. We have the press."
Excellent summary of his life and contribution.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-28-2019, 09:09 AM
Commoner
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Aberdeen, United Kingdom
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissPeach77 View Post
he didn't like Diana,
Actually he tried very hard to support Diana and to keep her marriage together. (Google his letters to her).

His childhood was awful - his father abandoned the family, his mother had mental problems and he was passed from pillar to post, living with relatives. He said that marrying Elizabeth gave him the first home he'd ever known.

His letter to the Queen Mother after his wedding is of a man of deep feeling eg

“‘Lilibet is the only thing in this world which is absolutely real to me and my ambition is to wield the two of us into a new combined existence.’.... and “‘Cherish Lilibet?

“I wonder if that word is enough to express what is in me.

“Does one cherish one’s sense of humour or one’s musical ear or one’s eyes?

“I am not sure but I know that I thank God for them and so, very humbly I thank God for Lilibet and for us.’”

He has been her strength and stay indeed, but she has been the home he never had.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-28-2019, 06:13 PM
LauraS3514's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Silicon Valley, United States
Posts: 582
Quote:
Originally Posted by janet14 View Post
His childhood was awful - his father abandoned the family, his mother had mental problems and he was passed from pillar to post, living with relatives. He said that marrying Elizabeth gave him the first home he'd ever known.
<snip>
He has been her strength and stay indeed, but she has been the home he never had.
One of his Mountbatten cousins said that once as a young man when he signed a visitor's book at a country house party he marked his residence as "no fixed abode." He was literally homeless when he married Princess Elizabeth (he was crashing most nights at his Grandmother Victoria Marchioness of Milford-Haven's KP apartment.)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-28-2019, 06:37 PM
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Belfast, United Kingdom
Posts: 187
I’ve read that he’s fiercely protective of The Queen (who is innately very shy) when they’re in public - if he senses that she’s uncomfortable, he will jump in to lighten the burden for her, or steer her off in a different direction. That’s devotion!
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Prince Ludwig Phillip of Thurn & Taxis and Princess Elisabeth of Luxembourg - 1922 Marengo Historical Royal Weddings 2 12-23-2008 11:01 AM




Popular Tags
alqasimi aristocracy armenia bavaria;house;chef;luitpold;ludwig belgian belgian royal family castles charles of wales countess of snowdon countess of wessex crown prince hussein's future wife crown princess victoria current events cypher cyprus danish history denmark duchess of sussex duke of cambridge duke of sussex dutch history family search foundation french royalty future wife of prince hussein general news germany hamdan bin mohammed harry head of the house henry v house of bourbon house of orange-nassau house of saxe-coburg and gotha king philippe letter lithuanian castles marriage mbs meghan markle mohammed vi monaco christening monaco history monarchist naples nelson mandela bay nobel 2019 official visit palaces potential areas prince harry prince of wales princess anne princess benedikte qe2 romanov family rumania shakespeare south africa south korea spain spanish royal state visit sweden swedish royal family swedish royalty united kingdom usa valois viscount severn


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:23 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019
Jelsoft Enterprises
×