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But what if she was too ill to wave and cut ribbons?
Waving and cutting ribbons is not a constitutional requirement. Besides there are other family members and loads of Lord Lieutenants who can cut ribbons.
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No. because she would still be mentally stable
The regency act states that a regency is established when the monarch is infirm of mind or body or is unavailable for a definite clause.

If the Queen is of infirm body and unable to perform essential roles (ie the red boxes) a regency can be established even if she's of sound mind.

One could also argue that a convalescence of a few months would be defined as unavailable for a definite clause.

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But what if she was too ill to wave and cut ribbons?
Neither of which are essential roles that only a monarch or a regent can perform.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:18 PM
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says HRH The Duke of Edin...burgh
Cepe thanks for excellent detective skills. I myself still can't make out anything but after so many years on this computer I'm not surprised my eyes have deteriorated And yes I do agree she looked much happier coming out then when she went in. Tbh the first few photos of her going in had me a bit worried but relieved to see her smiling again afterwards.
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The regency act states that a regency is established when the monarch is infirm of mind or body or is unavailable for a definite clause.

If the Queen is of infirm body and unable to perform essential roles (ie the red boxes) a regency can be established even if she's of sound mind.

One could also argue that a convalescence of a few months would be defined as unavailable for a definite clause.
I think in this case Counsellors of State would act.

Any two Counsellors of State may preside over Privy Council meetings, sign state documents or receive the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom.

The Counsellors of State are:
  • Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
  • Charles, Prince of Wales
  • Prince William, Duke of Cambridge
  • Prince Henry of Wales
  • Prince Andrew, Duke of York
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:56 PM
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I think in this case Counsellors of State would act.

Any two Counsellors of State may preside over Privy Council meetings, sign state documents or receive the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom.

The Counsellors of State are:
[*]Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh[*]Charles, Prince of Wales[*]Prince William, Duke of Cambridge[*]Prince Henry of Wales[*]Prince Andrew, Duke of York
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According to the article you linked that only works when the monarch is incapacitated for a short time.

It all really just depends on how ill HM is in this scenario and how long she is projected to be incapacitated for.
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Paul Harrison ‏@SkyNewsRoyal #royal the Countess of Wessex has arrived at the London Clinic to visit Prince #Philip

Paul Harrison ‏@SkyNewsRoyal #royal Countess of Wessex departs after 20 mins with #Philip pic.twitter.com/5przJxjuRF
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:49 AM
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One of Prince Philip's doctors is Satya Bhattacharya who specialises in surgery of the gallbladder, bile duct, liver and pancreas.

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Countess of Wessex visits Duke in hospital:
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So, do you suppose we will know at some point what is wrong with the Duke? Smiling faces coming out of the hospital mean nothing quite frankly.
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So, do you suppose we will know at some point what is wrong with the Duke? Smiling faces coming out of the hospital mean nothing quite frankly.
He went into hospital for exploratory surgery on his abdomen. The four most common adbomial surgeries are listed on the wikipedia page;
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Unless it is life-threatening eg and incurable cancer or disease, I doubt the palace are going to confirm what is/ was wrong with Philip.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:43 PM
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I think that decision is his to make.

Personally I find the inherent speculation in Peter Hunt's twitter (post # 207) intrusive. I should add that I have strong views that medical in confidence should mean just that. And there is no formal "public interest" situation in this, just media and some public speculation and curiosity.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:58 PM
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Medical problems are always very personal. With Philip being The Queen's Consort, his age, his many hospitalizations and the period that's required for him to rest, it's causing everyone some concern...even members of the media.

I guess it's up to Prince Philip and palace officials to let everyone know what's really going on. I think they will continue to provide updates and probably mention something from the results. If not, the media will really go into speculation if they see Philip's continuing decline.
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The media will speculate and speculate until Philip comes out of hospital smiling and waving as he has done ever other time. Then they will say he is a remarkable old man.
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Nice of Sophie to visit her father-in-law and bring him food, as she was carrying a cool-bag. It's nice that she visited him on her own as well as it shows she has a good relationship with him. I should imagine the grandkids will all visit at some point, as well as the other children.
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I'd imagine if he is going to be in for two weeks the children and grandchildren are spacing their visits, maybe one visit a day, so he still gets to see everyone without disturbing him too much
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I don't think children, if by that you mean Louise, will visit at all. If he is only able to manage 1person a day for up to 30 minutes they young children are a no no. Also not good for the children either.

all the children and most of the grand Holden are in London in the coming days for the Trooping the Colour, so that gives them a chance, probably priority given to those who are not generally based in London.
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If what someone said about the specialties of the doctor and the fact that he had laproscopic surgery, another poster, perhaps he had his gallbladder removed. Why all this is secret is foolish. He is a public figure and public figures are just that.
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If what someone said about the specialties of the doctor and the fact that he had laproscopic surgery, another poster, perhaps he had his gallbladder removed. Why all this is secret is foolish. He is a public figure and public figures are just that.
He is entitled to privacy IMO when it comes to medical matters. It doesn't make an iota of difference what the problem is, what matters is that he is being treated for it.
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I really do think the time has come for the Duke to finally retire. He certainly deserves some rest! I know how committed he is to his wife and his role, but no one would envy him a quiet life for the first time in his life. He deserves to spend his last years with no stress and enjoying time with his family, grandchildren and great grandchildren. The Queen also deserves to take it much, much easier than she has been.
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What he deserves is to make his own mind up. If he wanted to take it easy he could have done any time for the past 25 years (allowing +/- for normal retirement age).

Front line royals do not retire and he is someone who will "die in harness" as the saying goes. We can all wish him to go on for longer, but his quality of life is IMO as important, if not more important that the quantity of life.
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I don't think children, if by that you mean Louise, will visit at all. If he is only able to manage 1person a day for up to 30 minutes they young children are a no no. Also not good for the children either.

all the children and most of the grand Holden are in London in the coming days for the Trooping the Colour, so that gives them a chance, probably priority given to those who are not generally based in London.


I can imagine Louise is quite capable of sitting in a chair for 20 minutes to visit her grandpa.
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