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Old 11-13-2016, 12:11 PM
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Mrs May is already strechting royal prerogatives (executed by the Government in name of the Queen) in attempts to keep "the Sovereign" Parliament out of crucial decisionmaking. It is exactly this use (or abuse?) of royal prerogatives which led to a High Court ruling that Parliament must be heard indeed and must give consent before Government can officially notify the EU of its intention to leave by triggering Article 50.

The UK Government has gone in appeal to that ruling.

Personally, I think the English High Court decision was wrong, whereas the NI High Court decision was right. Foreign relations, including treaty negotations, are a royal prerogative that does not require parliamentary approval in the UK. The caveat is though that, unlike in the US, an international treaty, although binding in international law, does not have an immediate effect on domestic law, because changing domestic law requires the advice and consent of parliament. In other words, the government, using the royal prerogative, can negotiate withdrawal from the EU for example, but, in order for future EU law to cease to be in force in the UK, parliament must pass legislation repealing the European Communities Act. The correct timing therefore for parliament to be heard is not when the UK notifies the EU of its intention to trigger Art. 50, but rather when the so-called "Great Repeal Bil" promised by Mrs May is introduced in the House of Commons.

I trust that the UK Supreme Court will overturn the High Court ruling, but we will have to wait and see.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:15 PM
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Court Circular Buckingham Palace 13 December

The Rt. Hon. Theresa May MP (Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury) had an audience of Her Majesty this evening.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:19 PM
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Buckingham Palace

14th December, 2016
The Queen held a Council at 5.30pm.
There were present: the Rt. Hon. David Lidington MP (Lord President), the Rt. Hon. Michael Fallon MP (Secretary of State for Defence), the Rt. Hon. Damian Green MP (Secretary of State for Work and Pensions), the Rt. Hon. Sajid Javid MP (Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government), the Rt. Hon. Andrea Leadsom MP (Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs) and the Rt. Hon. Amber Rudd MP (Secretary of State for the Home Department).
Mrs. Ceri King was in attendance as Deputy Clerk of the Council.

The Rt. Hon. David Lidington MP had an audience of Her Majesty before the Council.
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Old 12-18-2016, 11:19 AM
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Left wing Labour frontbencher Diane Abbott has refused to say if she will swear allegiance to the Queen when she is made a member of the Privy Council in the new year.

The Cabinet Office will say on Monday that Ms Abbott, the shadow home secretary is to join the Privy Council and swear allegiance to the Queen.
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Old 12-18-2016, 03:09 PM
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Why would she, or anyone else want to be on the Privy Council and not swear an oath to the sovereign?
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:28 AM
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Theresa May 'disappointed the Queen by failing to fill her in on Brexit plans' | Daily Mail Online
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:59 AM
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The Queen is reported to have been "disappointed" with Theresa May after she declined to share details of her plans for leaving the European Union during her first visit to Balmoral.

The Times quoted a "source close to the monarch" as saying the Prime Minister stuck to her "Brexit means Brexit" line when she went to stay in Scotland in September.

Her reluctance to offer more insight into her private thinking was said to have come as a disappointment to the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh.

Neither Buckingham Palace nor Downing Street would comment on the report.

A palace spokeswoman said: "By long-established convention we never disclose details of discussions between the Queen and her prime ministers. Nor would we comment on anonymously sourced conjecture of this kind."
Read more: Queen 'disappointed when Theresa May refused to reveal Brexit blueprint' - AOL News UK
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:40 PM
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"A palace spokeswoman said: "By long-established convention we never disclose details of discussions between the Queen and her prime ministers. Nor would we comment on anonymously sourced conjecture of this kind."

Squished that little bug right and proper with one fell swoop!
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Old 12-24-2016, 06:17 AM
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Theresa May has the "greatest respect" for the Queen and will share details about her plans for Brexit as soon as they are decided, allies of the Prime Minister said yesterday.

It was yesterday reported that the Queen was left "disappointed" with Theresa May after the Prime Minister declined to share plans for Brexit during her first stay at Balmoral in September.

The Prime Minister stuck to her "Brexit means Brexit" line instead of giving a private briefing on how she intended to proceed with negotiations.

However allies of the said that at the time of the visit Mrs May's plans for Brexit were in the early stages. They suggested that she is likely to be much more forthcoming next year.

"The Queen is one of the most informed people in the World. She has the most acute and alert brain and is frequently far ahead of the politicians," the source said.

"If her Majesty asks the Prime Minister to give details, I'm sure she will give the fullest possible answer.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:21 AM
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That means its true.. And the Queen selectively leaked her disappointment to the media .. So as to force the PM to promise to share the details with her.. Both sides through "sources". But the palace still acts like a prude!
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:31 AM
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I doubt the Queen personally leaked anything, in fact, I doubt the Queen asked or hinted or in any other way suggested to anyone for them to leak this. The Queen doesn't do that. Now, if The Queen has said to one of her advisors that she was surprised that the PM didn't share her Brexit plans with her then maybe that person took it upon themself to leak it to the media in the hope of getting this sort of promise. However, its a bit dumb of Downing Street to issue a reply like this as it basically confirms the report and makes BPs statement, about not commenting on rumours like this, look pretty silly.
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:32 AM
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Agreed. Stupid and naive response. Which of the part that the queen doesn't make her views known to the public is not clear? The had better shut up...
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Old 12-24-2016, 09:22 AM
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I doubt the Queen personally leaked anything, in fact, I doubt the Queen asked or hinted or in any other way suggested to anyone for them to leak this. The Queen doesn't do that. Now, if The Queen has said to one of her advisors that she was surprised that the PM didn't share her Brexit plans with her then maybe that person took it upon themself to leak it to the media in the hope of getting this sort of promise. However, its a bit dumb of Downing Street to issue a reply like this as it basically confirms the report and makes BPs statement, about not commenting on rumours like this, look pretty silly.
OK if her advisors leak then then it STILL reflects badly on the Queen. How many people does the Queen tell what she spoke with PM? Her private secretary, 2-3 advisors and maybe PoW. If these 5-6 people can't keep their mouths shut then its really sad. And if she discusses with a much wider range of people, then that "convention of secrecy" is pointless. Does the Queen tolerate her trusted advisors leaking things without her knowledge or consent? All this to what extent us true?To what extent is permissible?

One thing, I see people coming to defence of the Queen with a protective instinct. I myself have done that many times. So don't take this discussion about Queen as a person. It is one of the conflict between two institutions, though looks subtle maybe very serious for those involved

In The Crown, we have seen the Queen blasting Churchill and Salisbury for hiding his illness from her. So she DOES TAKE these things seriously.(Not sure how true, but still) After all, it is her RIGHT TO BE INFORMED. So there is nothing wrong in The Queen getting offended by being kept in dark.
But how does she deal with that is the question. And how right it is.
We have to also remember that in such things, the Queen has to keep a tight leash over the PMs. Once they start taking her for granted, and avert all her questions, she simply has nowhere to go and complain..
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:54 AM
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I doubt the Queen personally leaked anything, in fact, I doubt the Queen asked or hinted or in any other way suggested to anyone for them to leak this. The Queen doesn't do that. Now, if The Queen has said to one of her advisors that she was surprised that the PM didn't share her Brexit plans with her then maybe that person took it upon themself to leak it to the media in the hope of getting this sort of promise. However, its a bit dumb of Downing Street to issue a reply like this as it basically confirms the report and makes BPs statement, about not commenting on rumours like this, look pretty silly.
The prime minister has a constitutional obligation to keep the Queen informed of the affairs of the realm. If she is withholding information about Brexit plans, my understanding is that Mrs May is therefore acting unconstitutionally. The Queen on the other hand has an obligation to keep her conversations with the prime minister private and I have no doubt she would never leak any confidential information. Mrs May is just being paranoid.
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Old 12-24-2016, 11:26 AM
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An "anonymous source" said that the Queen expressed something.

The Palace stuck to protocol and does not comment on the Queen's dealings with her Prime Minister nor does it comment on "anonymous sources".

Mrs. May reacted to said "anonymous source". Perhaps just to set a record straight and reinforce a statement from the Palace.

The Queen has virtually said nothing in my eyes about the situation at all. We do know though for sure that plans for Brexit are not finalized as of yet.

Its all good.
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Old 12-24-2016, 11:58 AM
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Sometimes I think the papers just make it up and hope that, by publishing it, either BP or Downing Street will release a statement that gives a little more away.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:47 PM
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Note the wording the PM will share the plans 'when they are decided'.

Therefore she couldn't share plans with the Queen in August as they still aren't decided.

I doubt that there is any veracity to this story at all - other than the fact that it is reasonable to 'guess' that they discussed the topic but as there were no plans made at the time of the PMs visit she couldn't share any with the Queen. The Queen was probably disappointed that there weren't plans in place and that is all. There would be people on both sides who knew that there were no plans in place - still being discussed but not determined - and so they made up a comment to the press which has become a story based on nothing more than supposition.

That has then been spun into a big story where one didn't exist at all.

No plans made in August = nothing to share with the Queen = no story.
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Theresa May told Queen by phone yesterday that she wanted to hold early election

Theresa May announces snap general election on June 8 to 'make a success of Brexit'
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Theresa May is to visit Buckingham Palace at 12.30 to request permission from Her Majesty to form a Government.
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Theresa May will visit the Queen at 12.30pm today to seek permission to form a government. Sounds like a Tory DUP coalition is on its way
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