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General News for Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip Part 2: March 2017


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Old 03-19-2017, 03:34 AM
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"'The Queen is glad that you like the guards' Boy 6 who dreams of being a Royal Guard writes adorable letter to the Queen - and is stunned by her responce"

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Old 03-19-2017, 04:29 AM
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Operation London Bridge: Plans for the Queen's death | Daily Mail Online

An odd article in the DM today
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:32 AM
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It does seem a bit random.

Obviously such an event has been planned for (probably for the best part of the last 65 years!), so not news as such.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:47 AM
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Well the DM is a tabloid, probably trying to get more readership.

Though the use of the code if true is intriguing, I read another article in which the Queen uses her handbag to signal her assistants
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:08 AM
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I don't like the fact that this leak happened, but the insight into how the events will fall into place once The Queen pass is very fascinating. I think with The Queen in her last years of reign, and the fact no one has seen a State funeral for a British Monarch in 65 years, is causing interest in the steps that will occur once it happens.

It's going to be a sight to see for everyone, even those who think royalty is irrelevant and totally ridiculous, will be straining themselves to get a look.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:47 AM
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Although specific details were never made public, I think we all knew that there were plans in place and that they were even practiced from time to time so that they'd be well prepared should anything happen.

You're right on the money when it comes to being an occasion the likes of what we've never seen before. I think its going to be as if the world has stopped its normal day to day routines and joins in mourning a woman who has been the epitome of what a head of state and world leader and defines what the words "Queen Regnant" means.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:15 AM
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The Daily Mail article is lifted 'verbatim' [as far as I can see] from 'the Guardian'. published a few days ago..
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:05 AM
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The Daily Mail article is lifted 'verbatim' [as far as I can see] from 'the Guardian'. published a few days ago..
I noticed that as well, the Guardian article had a little more analysis which the DM article has cut out to make it just a little different and a little more fact based.

Here is the Guardian article https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-london-bridge

In fairness I don't think much has been leaked out, there are no details about the Queen's actual funeral and most of what is written is either common sense or facts we saw or heard about during the deaths of Diana and the Queen Mother. The only real revelation I saw was that the plan is for Charles to visit each of the UK's constituent countries so soon after his mother's death. The only real problem I see with the article is that the code phrase "London Bridge Is Down" is no longer secret to hide the Queen's death from telephone operators.
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:24 PM
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It's been written many articles on this and I have posted some of them in the old thread.

48 points taken from the very detailed Guardian article:
https://www.indy100.com/article/mona...uneral-7637866

Artickle (also posted in the old thread) from Rob Price, Business Insider UK: (first verson written in March 2015)
What happens when Queen Elizabeth II dies - Business Insider

Article (written in January) from Town & Country where Penny Junor says this: (I'm not Penny's biggest fan, but I fully agree with what she says here.)
What Happens When Queen Elizabeth II Dies - What Will Happen When The Queen Dies?
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When the time comes, the passing of the Queen is sure to trigger both acute grief and uncertainty in Britain and around the world. As royal biographer Penny Juror explains, her death will be a "traumatic" event for Britain.

"The Queen is such a tremendously popular figure and during the course of her reign, so much has changed so dramatically," Juror told Town & Country. "There's not an aspect of life that hasn't changed, but the one constant in the midst of this has been the Queen, the rock solid thing we can hang on to."

THE QUEEN'S FUNERAL

This will be "an extraordinary occasion," says Juror. As monarch, the Queen will be given a state funeral, which is expected to take place 12 days after her death. The service will be led by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who the senior bishop of the Church of England, and will take place at either Westminster Abbey or St Paul's Cathedral, where there's likely to be an impressive international turnout. Like her father, mother, and many royals before her, it's widely believed the Queen will be laid to rest in St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle.
I adore the Queen and want her to live forever and I dread the day she dies.

But I find the death/funeral of the British monarch, reigning Queen of 16 countries, figurehead of 2 billion people, the most popular and iconic head of state (many would say person) in the world (although it may seem a bit morbid) very interesting in a historical perspective.
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:34 PM
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I will be deeply saddened, she was the Queen throughout my lifetime. It would be sometime to adjust who the current reigning monarch would be
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:18 PM
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There was a whole book written under this supposition. Including the phrase "London Bridge."
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It isn't a big secret what will happen. The Queen's funeral isn't going to be dramatically different from her father's and grandfather's. There is archival footage from both. It's very similar to the Queen Mother's funeral. The Privy Council meeting and announcement of the new Monarch from St James Palace isn't a secret either.
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It isn't a big secret what will happen. The Queen's funeral isn't going to be dramatically different from her father's and grandfather's. There is archival footage from both. It's very similar to the Queen Mother's funeral. The Privy Council meeting and announcement of the new Monarch from St James Palace isn't a secret either.
Not a secret at all (several newspapers have written about it long before the guardian article), and the funeral will (as you say) be very similar to her father's. But we can not compare it with that of the Queen Mother.

I wrote two long detailed posts in the 80th birthday thread for King Harald and Queen Sonja about former royal birthdays and celebrations in Norway.

I thought I'd do the same in a thread here about previous funerals of former British monarchs/consorts and go through them and then compare them with the future state funeral of the Queen. (Maybe in the after Elizabeth thread)

Operation London Bridge now has its own page on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_London_Bridge
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It will be more similar to the Queen Mother's than Diana's. The lying in state in Westminster Hall like the QM . The Crown on the top of the coffin in case of the Queen it's the Crown Jewels of the monarch instead of the consort. Sailors from the Royal Navy pull the monarch's coffin instead of horses. Burial at St George's chapel is the same. Because the Queen's funeral will be a state funeral, the scale will be bigger and you have more world leaders in attendance.
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It will be more similar to the Queen Mother's than Diana's. The lying in state in Westminster Hall like the QM . The Crown on the top of the coffin in case of the Queen it's the Crown Jewels of the monarch instead of the consort. Sailors from the Royal Navy pull the monarch's coffin instead of horses. Burial at St George's chapel is the same. Because the Queen's funeral will be a state funeral, the scale will be bigger and you have more world leaders in attendance.
1. Agree! It can't be compared to Diana's funeral at all. The funeral in 1997 was (of course) actually quite simple in comparison with funerals of previous monarchs/consorts.

2. Exactly what I meant.
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Most of us only have the funeral of the Queen Mum and Diana as reference. The people who remember 1952 and the King's funeral are probably not hanging out on this forum.
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Most of us only have the funeral of the Queen Mum and Diana as reference. The people who remember 1952 and the King's funeral are probably not hanging out on this forum.
With the exception of nerds like me, who have spent a long time trying to find information about previous royal funerals as those of Queen Victoria in 1901, King Edward VII in 1910, Queen Alexandra in 1925, King George V in 1936, King George VI in 1952 and Queen Mary in 1953 .
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Interestingly it will probably be one of the most watched events in the world thanks to TV and Internet. No doubt multiple channels will air the event live, or rebroadcast it in some cases.
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With the exception of nerds like me, who have spent a long time trying to find information about previous royal funerals as those of Queen Victoria in 1901, King Edward VII in 1910, Queen Alexandra in 1925, King George V in 1936, King George VI in 1952 and Queen Mary in 1953 .
I think that since film of the events has been shared here on the forums (in a number of threads) that a lot of us who have been here a while have a good idea of what to expect.

For those new to the forums, when you have the time and interest, digging back into discussion threads can yield excellent results.
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