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Old 02-22-2016, 05:59 AM
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Turning down the heating to force the Queen Mother to leave?!?

Surely this is satire?

Who in their right mind over the age of thirteen could come up with nonsense like that?
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:49 AM
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Anyone know the whereabouts of Rupert Murdoch lately? This reeks of something that would come from his sense of journalism.

What are the chances with this being out in the public domain about what the program contains and is going to be aired that the BRF could sic the best legal eagles on whomever is involved and get this pulled from being aired?

Just from my armchair here in the US, I would imagine that the majority of the British people would get furious at this kind of gutter trash being presented on TV and come into their living rooms. I know it wouldn't be allowed in my house. Its an insult to intelligence.
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In a strong statement of faith, the Queen has said that she is ‘very grateful’ to the nation for its prayers for her and that she has felt God’s ‘faithfulness’ during 64 years on the throne.

The comments – rare insights into the Queen’s personal thoughts and Christian faith – came in the forward to a new book, The Servant Queen and the King She Serves, published today by Bible Society, HOPE and LICC.

Her Majesty said, ‘I have been – and remain – very grateful to you for your prayers and to God for his steadfast love. I have indeed seen his faithfulness.’
Read more: Queen thanks nation for prayers during her reign - News - Bible Society
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:55 PM
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Turning down the heating to force the Queen Mother to leave?!?

Surely this is satire?

Who in their right mind over the age of thirteen could come up with nonsense like that?
Just curious - what central heating do BP and WC have? Any? I've always read about those heaters in the fireplaces, but not much about central heat.
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:06 PM
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This is old gossip so will not come as a surprised to the BRF.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:38 PM
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:12 PM
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Turning down the heating to force the Queen Mother to leave?!?

Surely this is satire?

Who in their right mind over the age of thirteen could come up with nonsense like that?

This is all old news read it years ago For what's its worth I think if anyone would do this Philip would be the one.


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Old 02-22-2016, 04:28 PM
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The first time I heard these stories was in the 1960s but as I was only born at the very end of the 50s I can't remember if they were doing the rounds then - although my parents have said they were.

In other words - this isn't anything new - just rehashing the same old stories that have done the rounds for the last 60+ years.

Whether there is any truth in them - who can say. The rumours of affairs have always been denied. The stories about the nights at the men's club are confirmed with photos from some of those nights but whether Philip went home the worse for wear - does it matter. Many men enjoy a night out with friends and then come home a little under the weather. Why should he be any different?
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:20 PM
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Y'know, I realize that none of this is breaking news and most of the allegations have been put to print over the years. What appalls me is that a "documentary" being put together that is based solely on these rumors that have circulated about Philip (and other royals in the weeks to come) is even considered as something to air as "entertainment".

To me, this is negativity at its worse and for the life of me, I cannot understand why the producers would want to air something which does absolutely nothing but insult, degrade and humiliate a family that has given so much in service to Crown and Country and Commonwealth.

I don't think any of us would like all our mistakes, imperfections and foibles aired for the public to gawk at.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:55 PM
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The BRF needs to start suing and seeking retractions and monetary compensation.

They should request compensation for each and every time the allegations appear in print or on the internet or anywhere.

Bankrupt these companies.

Freedom of the press is one thing but lies are another.

The BRF should insist that these companies remove all copies of these stories from all websites. This will keep these organizations and people too busy to spread more lies.
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Old 02-22-2016, 07:56 PM
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I just refuse to gnash my teeth over 60 plus year old rumors. I suggest we all do the same. Cui bono? Do not feed the trolls.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:31 PM
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It's very strange how no concrete evidence in the form of letters or stories from family members have ever come out about these women and the multiple times Prince Philip has supposedly been unfaithful. All sorts of weird imputations have come from people like Lady Colin Campbell and Kitty Kelly and have appeared over the years, including the story of the Queen and Lord Porchester, her racing manager!

It is indeed very old news. I think some of it comes from that very long Royal tour Prince Philip did alone in the Britannia in the late 1950's. Unusually for those days newspapers began speculating about the state of the Royal marriage.

As for the BBC it has quite a left wing and republican bias so I'm not surprised that this documentary is being shown. Unfortunately it may draw some viewers who know little about this period of history and will believe it.

Did Buckingham Palace have central heating in the early 1950's? It was quite soon after the war and I thought open fires, electric fires and radiators were still in use.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:57 PM
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The reason for the heaters in the fireplaces in BP is because open fires are illegal in London. I guess the Queen is a creature of habit because the same heaters can be seen at balmoral. I guess I would want the same heaters everywhere that way you always know how to operate them.
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Yes, I know they're illegal now but were they then, in the early 1950's? I can't remember when the first Clean Air Act was passed. It may have been as late as 1960. One of my most vivid memories of early childhood is being caught, with my parents, in a regular 'pea souper' on a visit to London. I do know that one of the last fogs before the Clean Air Act killed many with respiratory problems. I can remember people on the street wearing scarves over noses and mouths on the visit I mentioned.
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It's very strange how no concrete evidence in the form of letters or stories from family members have ever come out about these women and the multiple times Prince Philip has supposedly been unfaithful. All sorts of weird imputations have come from people like Lady Colin Campbell and Kitty Kelly have appeared over the years, including the story of the Queen and Lord Porchester, her racing manager!

It is indeed very old news. I think some of it comes from that very long Royal tour Prince Philip did alone in the Britannia in the late 1950's. Unusually for those days newspapers began speculating about the state of the Royal marriage.

As for the BBC it has quite a left wing and republican bias so I'm not surprised that this documentary is being shown. Unfortunately it may draw some viewers who know little about this period of history and will believe i

Did Buckingham Palace have central heating in the early 1950's? It was quite soon after the war and I thought open fires, electric fires and radiators were still in use.
This programme is being shown on Channl 5, not the BBC
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Thanks Cepe! Well, the people at Channel 5 must be nearly as bad on this occasion, in a sensationalist sort of way!
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Old 02-23-2016, 01:43 AM
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The reason for the heaters in the fireplaces in BP is because open fires are illegal in London. I guess the Queen is a creature of habit because the same heaters can be seen at balmoral. I guess I would want the same heaters everywhere that way you always know how to operate them.
This isn't strictly true. Open fires are certainly still permitted in Smoke Control Areas (such as Central London), provided appropriate fuel such as smokeless coal is burned. No wood my be used as fuel, except a small amount of kindling to start the fire.

I only bring this up for two reasons: the open fires at my friend's clubs are always a treat in winter and I once visited the officer's mess of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment in Knightsbridge, where my host proudly showed me the pair of blacksmith's forges they had installed (the barracks having been built after the Clean Air Act was not permitted to install fireplaces, but was granted permission to install forges to service the demands of the horses).
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Old 02-23-2016, 05:33 PM
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I thinks that the royal documentaries from the BBC is without a doubt the most credible/pro royal with the exception of some (including the BBC two documentary Reinventing the Royals.) Both Elizabeth R: A Year in the Life of the Queen (1992), The Queen at 80 (2006), Monarchy: The Royal Family at Work (2007) and The Diamond Queen (2012) were very good.

I've decided to don't watch royal documentaries that are made by Channel 4/5 anymore because I consider them (the documentaries) to be trash. And It's not the first time the relationship between the Queen Mother and Prince Philip is mentioned in a Channel 4/5 documentary. It has been claimed several times that she was the mother-in-law from hell and that she refused to move out from Buckingham Palace.

It's known that she didn't like Prince Philip at first, but warmed up to him as the years passed.

This is a Channel 4 documentary from 2008 - It claims that Cecil Beaton wrote in his diaries that he noticed that the Queen Mother's rooms at Buckingham Palace were cold and empty when he visited her.

Look at the beginning of Part 2, but I also recommend Part 1 for those who haven't seen it.

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Old 02-23-2016, 08:00 PM
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Philip never lived at BP until after Elizabeth became Queen. The Queen Mum lived there since 1936. Wouldnt she know where the heating controls are more than Philip? Or she could just tell a servant to turn it up?

Getting the dowager to move out is never usually a super quick thing. Mary and Alexandra took their time too.


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How much of a bother could the Queen Mum have been? She is said to have moved to Clarence house just prior to the coronation (which was barely 2 months after her husband died). And she spent a lot of time in Scotland when first widowed, pulling a Queen Vic, until the Prime minister called her back to royal duties.

Mary and Alexandra took longer but not more than a year, to move into Marlburough house when widowed.
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