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Old 12-04-2011, 03:09 AM
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Maybe it would be wise for Infanta Christina to give up her involvement with the Caixa bank herself before more of a certain substance hits the fan?

Whatever happened,there is no smoke without a fire as we say here...What did Inaki think....Did he really think he could get away with it all?..Of all people....Why the greed....He already had conquered an Infanta of Spain to please his ego.....then he played for more.....and tumbles down....He was better at playing basketball...And now it all again boils down on Reina Sofia,the only constant in the entire family...She's the mediator and source of console....Poor poor woman.....
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:55 AM
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Maybe it would be wise for Infanta Christina to give up her involvement with the Caixa bank herself before more of a certain substance hits the fan?

Whatever happened,there is no smoke without a fire as we say here...What did Inaki think....Did he really think he could get away with it all?..Of all people....Why the greed....He already had conquered an Infanta of Spain to please his ego.....then he played for more.....and tumbles down....He was better at playing basketball...And now it all again boils down on Reina Sofia,the only constant in the entire family...She's the mediator and source of console....Poor poor woman.....
he was better at playing handball!!!

Had he been a basketball player, good enough to make the NBA, he would have returned to Spain a billionaire and wouldnt have to start questionable business acitvities in order to keep up with the inlaws' lifestyle.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:32 AM
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he was better at playing handball!!!

Had he been a basketball player, good enough to make the NBA, he would have returned to Spain a billionaire and wouldnt have to start questionable business acitvities in order to keep up with the inlaws' lifestyle.
Duke, the " in law " are an example of the stereotypes that creates the press... Jaime with his eccentricities and his disease was an easy aim and for the press it was easy to attack him. The Palma had an image of perfect family and it was more profitable to promote it.

The Lugo lived many years of rent, later Jaime bought a house, which the Infanta left after the divorce and now she lives in a flat of 400 square meters. They lived in good flats, but much smaller and cheaper that the house of the Palma in Barcelona. The official residence of the Prince of Asturias was cheaper than the house of the Palma.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:04 AM
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new details emerged today of urdangarin money laundering public money given by the balearic islands government in belize and tax haven belonging to the UK...

i'm rather shocked about this. out of all the people, the palmas seemed the most "normal" and down to earth of the SRF members.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:21 AM
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I wonder if the Palma family will stay in the USA for Christmas or return home this year?
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:36 AM
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Duke, the " in law " are an example of the stereotypes that creates the press... Jaime with his eccentricities and his disease was an easy aim and for the press it was easy to attack him. The Palma had an image of perfect family and it was more profitable to promote it.

The Lugo lived many years of rent, later Jaime bought a house, which the Infanta left after the divorce and now she lives in a flat of 400 square meters. They lived in good flats, but much smaller and cheaper that the house of the Palma in Barcelona. The official residence of the Prince of Asturias was cheaper than the house of the Palma.
Inaki was kind of a public person when he married Cristina, and because of his sports fame maybe people thought he was well off or he wanted to fulfill this image, providing an appropriate lifestyle for his royal wife and children. I believe that he wanted to show everybody that he can do better than throw a ball and it didnt work out. He is not the first sports star proving not as streetwise out in reality when dealing with business issues as he thought he was.

Regarding the Palma house its difficult to compare with Felipe's residence that is build within Zarzuela Palace grounds, while Barcelona is a free and expensive property market. They needed something big for their family and I dont think anybody wanted to see Cristina live in a small appartement in a run down area.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:07 AM
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Pretty stupid!!
He will now loose his freedom, his family and his wealth.
It is obvious that he will get a prison sentence and a divorce from his wife.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:37 AM
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Pretty stupid!!
He will now loose his freedom, his family and his wealth.
It is obvious that he will get a prison sentence and a divorce from his wife.
A divorce would be very deceiving from Cristina. Divorcing someone because he is facing a trial is contrary to the vows of a christian wedding. Truly christian spouses should support each other even in the worse parts of live and even if the result is being badly looked at and loosing all his friends. True love and real friendship are revealing themselves in bad times.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:46 AM
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They needed something big for their family and I dont think anybody wanted to see Cristina live in a small appartement in a run down area.
But we are talking about an estate of 2.000 square meters (house+garden), in one of the best areas of Barcelona ... Infanta Elena and her two children live in 400. Between your small apartment and this house there are many options.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:06 AM
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Bad year for the Spanish RF. I wonder which Christmas Card they will send ?
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:39 AM
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Iñaki´s business investigated in a corruption case

If Inaki is guilty of this crime ( he hasn't been tried in court yet) I don't think we have to try to justify his actions , like trying to provide Christina with a nice home etc.Sometimes criminals steal just because they can, it's no more complicated than that.
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Is Inaki actually accused of being involved in criminal activities or is it a matter of too many transaction in a grey area. One can ofter be within the law but morally and ethically wrong.

Perhaps the supposed coldness between Letizia and Christina had a very different reason than what posters on this board "knew".
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:42 PM
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Is Inaki actually accused of being involved in criminal activities or is it a matter of too many transaction in a grey area. One can ofter be within the law but morally and ethically wrong.

Perhaps the supposed coldness between Letizia and Christina had a very different reason than what posters on this board "knew".
He is not accused of anything yet. However, his business partner has been officially accused for what happened in the Institute they both managed.
I get the impression the authorities are making 100% sure he is guilty before charging him because of who he is. If it's going to happen, I hope it happens already so the Royal Family can do something as everybody is expecting.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:44 PM
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A divorce would be very deceiving from Cristina. Divorcing someone because he is facing a trial is contrary to the vows of a christian wedding. Truly christian spouses should support each other even in the worse parts of live and even if the result is being badly looked at and loosing all his friends. True love and real friendship are revealing themselves in bad times.
I think that the royal position of the Infanta will be, in case of a sentence, more important for Cristina than some personal feelings.
She will not endanger the monarchy and her position and that of her children..
Talking about christian weddings, her sister Elena also divorced. The man did not fit in the royal family anymore.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:52 PM
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I think that the royal position of the Infanta will be, in case of a sentence, more important for Cristina than some personal feelings.
She will not endanger the monarchy and her position and that of her children..
Talking about christian weddings, her sister Elena also divorced. The man did not fit in the royal family anymore.
Infanta Elena divorced Marichalar because she wanted, not because he didn't fit in the royal family any more.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:00 PM
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I think that the royal position of the Infanta will be, in case of a sentence, more important for Cristina than some personal feelings.
She will not endanger the monarchy and her position and that of her children..
Talking about christian weddings, her sister Elena also divorced. The man did not fit in the royal family anymore.
She could as well decide to lead a private life without any more public duties. If she is forced to divorce for the monarchy's sake, it will be rather cynical from a "catholic monarchy".
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:05 PM
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Infanta Elena divorced Marichalar because she wanted, not because he didn't fit in the royal family any more.
She wanted it yes, but the royal family was surely not unhappy about it
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:26 PM
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She wanted it yes, but the royal family was surely not unhappy about it
I dont think so. Elena kind of enforced her divorce. Especially Queen Sofia was against it, she even told her biographer Pilar Urbano that Elena knew divorce was no option. One year later, it actually happened, probably because the King finally agreed. Furthermore, I think the Queen has always been very fond of Jaime.

Back to Cristina, in contrast to Elena & Jaime, who seemed to be unhappy for many years and were basically leading separate lifes long before an official separation, Inaki & Cristina seem to have a strong marriage and lead a fulfilling family life, their children seem happy & balanced. I do not think Cristina would want to divorce, especially not for the sake of the SRF and I dont think this is what the Kings would ask of her. However, we do not know what impact such accusations can have, same for Elena, when Jaime got ill many years ago, it seemed to have put their marriage over the edge.
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Yes, to me their marriages are (were in the case of Elena) in a completely different state. But who knows how all of this will affect their relationship.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:32 PM
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After his illness Jaime's personality apparently changed and therefore, sometimes became an embarrasment to the SRF.
Cristina's husband with his behaviour will certainly damage the SRF and that will certainly also damage or ruin his relation with his wife even if it was apparently a strong relation, but it is based on dishonesty
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