Princess Märtha Louise & Family General News and Information: 2003 -


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Love it!! Glad she is also getting the girls involved too!
 
an interesting account from ML's relationship on BLM based on her own experience with mr durek:

"Being @shamandurek ‘s girlfriend has given me a crash course in how white supremacy is at play and the way I have consciously and subconsciously thought of and acted towards black people. How I have taken my rights for granted - never looked properly at what racism really is, because it has been comfortable for me that the system is in place. I am not proud of it, but I realize I need to grow into understanding this deeply rooted system to be able to be part of the dismantling of it. I, as a white person, need to grow, educate myself and become better and move from being against racism to being anti-racist.

Racism is not just the obvious (which I thought it was), of the openly discrimination, mistreating and killing of black people which is easy and obvious to take a stand against. It is in the details (which I had no idea still existed). It is in the way people shy away from Durek. How friends assume he lies about everything. That he is evil for being kind. The words muttered under their breath, making it perfectly clear to him that he does not have a natural place at the table. People at high places saying “How dare you think I would touch your hand?” when he reached out his hand to say goodnight (pre Covid-19). People thinking they aren’t racist, but don’t know anyone with a different skin color than their own, apart from the people working for them. How it is assumed that Durek is not a good person who actually loves me, but has manipulated me into loving him and keeps manipulating me in our relationship. How he will exploit me financially. The press presents him as a liar, being violent and a threat to my family and myself, sharing scrupulously his X’s story without checking facts, because it supports the belief system already in place about him. THAT IS RACISM! We have both received death threats for being together and have weekly been told that we shame our people and families for choosing each other.

The reality of it all is that I love how he holds space for me as a woman, listens to my wisdom and shows up for me and my girls. I love how he shares his wisdom with the world, how he inspires, creates change"
 
Hmm, sounds like a defense speech to me, based on the criticism of Durek she must have read.

Don't work though.
The silly and sometimes downright dangerous things he has openly advocated would still be silly and downright dangerous if he was blue-skinned.

He may be a questionable personage who happens to be brown-skinned, but he is first and foremost a questionable personage.

- Give me a break!
 
Muhler said:
Hmm, sounds like a defense speech to me, based on the criticism of Durek she must have read.

Don't work though.
The silly and sometimes downright dangerous things he has openly advocated would still be silly and downright dangerous if he was blue-skinned.

He may be a questionable personage who happens to be brown-skinned, but he is first and foremost a questionable personage.

- Give me a break!
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I quite agree with you. I Don't think criticism has anything to do with his colour but with the controversial things he says.:bang:
 
Is this something that will eventually lead to a future marriage? Has he ever been married, or have any children?
 
angieuk said:
Is this something that will eventually lead to a future marriage? Has he ever been married, or have any children?
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AFAIK Durek hasn't been married before. Who knows if this will lead to marriage or not!
 
angieuk said:
Is this something that will eventually lead to a future marriage?
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Quoted from an interview published on April 7 this year:

[Durek Verrett] told Femail: ‘I can tell you one thing. It (marriage) is definitely not off the table. Our plans are eventually to live together with each other. Not in Norway, but in the US.

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He revealed that they have been keeping in contact by telephone and video calls at least three times a day that last up to two hours, with both breaking down because of their imposed separation.

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Durek added: ‘One of our requirements before we started dating was that I really needed to get on well with the children.

'I am 100% OK with them and they with me, and it’s working perfectly. They tell me everything they want, whenever they want. I listen, I hold space for them, it’s beautiful.’
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ML is again going to the limit and possibly a little beyond, according to the Norwegian finance paper Børsen. (*)
https://www.borsen.no/nyheter/reagerer-pa-mystisk-detalj/72628750

As you remember ML was barred from using her royal title in a commercial context.

ML has recently opened a share-holding company named PML.
A call to ML's manager has indeed confirmed that it stands for Prinsesse Mätha Louise.
The company will arrange travels, lectures, provide a conferencier (ML presumably) and similar services.

Experts in the article debates whether it is breaking the rules, that ML has set up a business named PML.
The consensus is that it would be better if she hadn't.
That it may be problematic in regards to the very strict rules regarding the NRF and commerce.
That it is legal, you can name a business whatever you want, also PML.
That it won't make a difference, at least in Norway, since everybody already know who she is.

(*) Børsen = The Stock Exchange. When you encounter that name in a Scandinavian context, you can translate the paper to Financial Times. With similar contents and similar level of seriousness and reliability.
 
ML knows her father will never cut her off.

Is she so worried about what Haakon might do that she's trying to make out while she can?

Her finances are seemingly not great. So she's trying to enrich them at the expense of whatever goodwill and reputation she has left?
 
Prinsara said:
ML knows her father will never cut her off.

Is she so worried about what Haakon might do that she's trying to make out while she can?

Her finances are seemingly not great. So she's trying to enrich them at the expense of whatever goodwill and reputation she has left?
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Perhaps.

I don't think she is worried about what Haakon will do, or be pressured into doing, some time in the future.

To me she seems to be an opportunist who acts in the present. What happens in five-ten years is far away.
As such I believe she will test her boundaries again and again. Partly because that's what an opportunist do and partly because I believe she feels that she has been wronged and as such also acts because she feels she is entitled to do what she does, even if it causes difficulties for her family and the NRF as an institution.
 
Yeps. Its a case of "making hay while the sun shines". It just doesn't register that hay can and does catch fire easily in the sun.

"High-moisture haystacks and bales can catch on fire because they have chemical reactions that build heat. Hay insulates, so the larger the haystack, the less cooling that occurs to offset the heat. ... Fires can damage or destroy hay, barns and equipment, and cost producers thousands of dollars.”

There you have it. My opinion along with a little bit of scientific knowledge to back it up.

(checks off her learn something new today box) :D
 
Muhler said:
Perhaps.

I don't think she is worried about what Haakon will do, or be pressured into doing, some time in the future.

To me she seems to be an opportunist who acts in the present. What happens in five-ten years is far away.
As such I believe she will test her boundaries again and again. Partly because that's what an opportunist do and partly because I believe she feels that she has been wronged and as such also acts because she feels she is entitled to do what she does, even if it causes difficulties for her family and the NRF as an institution.
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Funny that you say that when the last post I made prior to this thread was to call another born royal an opportunist, even if he hasn't been living for almost forty years or so. I hadn't thought of that in the same way, but yes, you're quite right about the boundary pushing. (To go with the resentment, and the sense of entitlement... :whistling:)
 
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Of course... the "specialist" Martha Louise doesn't have the same ring$$ as Princess Martha Louise.
 
"Princess" and other titles have an aura that just plain (insert name here) just doesn't have. That little sprinkle of fairy dust, if you will. She and many others in a similar position will continue to push that when they really shouldn't because that's where they interest and money lie. Especially if she wants to go further afield than Norway and neighbouring Scandinavian countries.
 
She both has never wanted to be a princess and knows that's all she has. It doesn't seem like there's an easy solution.

Perhaps she needs some lessons from her girls, who've never had a title struggle.

It's sad because she does seem to both love and need her family; she just doesn't seem to be a fan of stability.
 
ML has given an interview on a Swedish podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/se/podca...d-änglar-original/id985517492?i=1000483434045

In the podcast she talks about her life, her spiritual abilities, her ability to speak with animals, her relationship with Durek, the criticism she has had in the press and many other things.

The Danish paper BT has highlighted a few quotes:
https://www.bt.dk/royale/prinsesse-martha-louise-jeg-skammer-mig

She has never been a traditional princess and she has never fitted into the role as princess.
"I'm ashamed that I see things differently and that I am so different/apart. I'm not the princess everyone wants. I work on that with meditation. (*) I use everything that happens in life as an opportunity for me to grow and develop."

Her marriage with Ari Behn, her occupation with spiritual matters and now her relationship with Durek, have all been criticized, but doing that has all been necessary for her to be herself.
Everyone wanted her to act in a particular way, but she has never fitted into that role.

When she was around ten she had a defining conversation with her mormor (maternal grandmother) and asked her what she regretted most in life. The mormor replied she regretted all she hadn't done.
"That struck me and I decided I should do all I was afraid of doing."

(*) While I do believe we could all benefit from meditating from time to time, it reminds me of the remark a husband made about his wife becoming interested in meditation: "Well, it's better than her just sitting around, doing nothing." ?
 
Her_Majesty said:
That's also why the CP needs the permission of Stortinget to get married.
(I don't know if the other members of teh RF need the permission of Stortinget too, actually.... does anyone know?)
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The Constitution requires the King's permission only. The requirement applies to any Prince or Princess (and will likely be interpreted to apply to the Behn daughters as well) who wishes to remain in the order of succession after marriage.

Article 36
A Prince or Princess entitled to succeed to the Crown of Norway may not marry without the consent of the King. [...]

If he or she acts contrary to this rule, they and their descendants forfeit their right to the throne of Norway.​


EmpressRouge said:
It's the tradition that a wife takes on her husband's titles and not the other way around. Since Haakon is the crown prince, his wife Mette-Marit becomes crown princess. Even if they weren't royal, a woman takes her husband's name. If Joe Smith married Jane Doe, they would be Mr and Mrs. Smith, not Mr. and Mrs. Doe.
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It is allowed for a husband to take his wife's name under Norwegian law. Given that all married princes of the present royal house have been kings or crown princes, and none of the married princesses have been, I think it is too early to assume that Prince Sverre Magnus's wife will take his title while Princess Ingrid Alexandra will take her husband's name (Princess Märtha Louise did not).
 
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Is there a reason why she did it in English?
 
ML posts in a mixture of English and Norwegian on Instagram as do most people who don't have English as their first language when on social media. Perhaps the nanny taught her English?
 
A beautiful tribute. In additon, the fact that Mrs. Tversland was able to start as a nanny and finish as a marshal of the court is a very good look for the Norwegian monarchy.
 
It's a very serious thing for her girls to have both parents so seriously affected.

It also makes me think ML would still be able to help a lot of people if she didn't insist on shooting herself in the foot. And/or looking for love in all the wrong places.
 
Prinsara said:
It's a very serious thing for her girls to have both parents so seriously affected.

It also makes me think ML would still be able to help a lot of people if she didn't insist on shooting herself in the foot. And/or looking for love in all the wrong places.
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Yes, it worries me for the girls that both of their parents were/ are suffering from depression. Nobody's fault but it must be quite hard for them.

I agree with you. As she says in her post, she thankfully has many people who support her (especially the NRF I imagine) but I don't think the Shaman will ultimately provide what she is seeking :ermm: In my opinion he is a conman, I don't think his strange stuff will help her and if he shows his true face at some point in the future, she'll feel even worse.

I think it's great that she is opening up about her depression. Openness with the subject can help many people and perhaps people will show her more understanding now. I do think she means well and to her public (and maybe personal) detriment she's madly in love with the Shaman. Love is sometimes blind.
 
It is heartening that Martha Louise is open about her depression. It tells me that she's very aware of it and knows she needs a good support system. She's not battling this alone. Its all the more important if, by chance, being so "in love" with the Shaman (whom I also believe is as phony as a three sided coin), when and if he does show his "true colors", it will hit ML as a ton of bricks if being blinded in love never allowed her to see all the red flags.
 
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