Princess Märtha Louise & Family Current Events Part 8: May 2018 -

[theroyalfly]

A Greve Lewenhaupt or a Furst von Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg or any titled person can do business as such, but a Princess Märtha Louise can only do business as Märtha Louise. Then we all agree that all of us will upheld a comedy and all of us will pretend she is no princess of the blood royal anymore for the business time being. This is the summum of hypocrisy. If it is so "undisirable" that members of the royal family earn their own money, provide them money indeed. It is either the one or the other.

Are we really having this conversation again? Furst von Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg vs Princess of Norway? Non-reigning family vs Reigning Family.

There is no pretending whatsoever that she's not a princess. She will always be. That's her birthright. However, using that title for personal and business here and there most especially if it doesn't concern the royal family is a different thing.

I won't comment on how far she has gone on using her birthright title but the mere fact that the Norwegian Royal Court intervened, it's safe to say her using her princess title is out of decency and should be stopped.

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

Agree. And please forgive my ignorance, who is Tessy Anthony?

As maria-olivia has pointed out; Tessy is the former wife of Prince Louis of Luxembourg but has been and is very vocal on her dislike at her treatment by the GDF on Instagram and loves to exploit her connection to her former princess title. For more detail, it's good to read this thread.

 

[Muhler]

As maria-olivia has pointed out; Tessy is the former wife of Prince Louis of Luxembourg but has been and is very vocal on her dislike at her treatment by the GDF on Instagram and loves to exploit her connection to her former princess title. For more detail, it's good to read this thread.

Thanks.

She's almost certifiable!

 

[Rena M.]

[FONT=&quot]“As a little girl I often imagined that someday my real parents would show up - ordinary people with normal occupations like dentist or teacher. Like millions of little girls (who know the life of a princess only from books, movies or stories) dream of being a princess, I too dreamed of a completely different life: I wanted to be normal like everyone else. I already knew how the life of a princess felt. And in this life I never felt well.[/FONT]

As a princess you attract public attention right from the beginning and you are confronted with great expectations. I tried for a long time to live up to those expectations and to be the person that I should be. But I did not succeed. It was very exhausting for me and ultimately overwhelmed me.“

She is obviously a vulnerable person (unhappy childhood, divorce, midlife crisis) and easy prey for conman. I hope there is someone in NRF who really cares for ML and wants to help her. Her family should get her help of an exit counselor asap, who specializes in mind control and aiding people leaving cults, destructive and controlling relationships, or radical political groups. I hope it's not too late for her.
I would start with Steven Hassan who is world renowned specialist in exit counseling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hassan
https://freedomofmind.com/

 

[Osipi]

She is obviously a vulnerable person (unhappy childhood, divorce, midlife crisis) and easy prey for conman. I hope there is someone in NRF who really cares for ML and wants to help her. Her family should get her help of an exit counselor asap, who specializes in mind control and aiding people leaving cults, destructive and controlling relationships, or radical political groups. I hope it's not too late for her.
I would start with Steven Hassan who is world renowned specialist in exit counseling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hassan
https://freedomofmind.com/

I think her thoughts as a child of having a totally different life is actually quite normal. I don't think there are many people that haven't experienced the "grass is greener on the other side of the fence" kind of thinking. It happens a lot of time when there is a crisis or a quick change of environment as we go down the road of life. I grew up in the era of people "finding themselves" through all different methods (I'm a hippie relic) and realized that no matter how old we get, we're always finding ourselves. I've taken a few weird roads myself and some were real eye openers. One cannot dismiss something that doesn't work for them unless they experience it in the first place and know it doesn't work.

Trial and error is the name of the game and by experiencing error, we know what doesn't work for us and we move on. Its the experience itself that is the best teacher. One thing I do know for sure is that no "outside" help or counseling is going to work unless the person being counseled is open to making changes and look at things differently. Its a case of you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. It can't be forced.

 

[theroyalfly]

She is obviously a vulnerable person (unhappy childhood, divorce, midlife crisis) and easy prey for conman. I hope there is someone in NRF who really cares for ML and wants to help her. Her family should get her help of an exit counselor asap, who specializes in mind control and aiding people leaving cults, destructive and controlling relationships, or radical political groups. I hope it's not too late for her.
I would start with Steven Hassan who is world renowned specialist in exit counseling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hassan
https://freedomofmind.com/

I know this is already digressing to the topic but I remember the Princess gained the monicker "psychic" and "clairvoyant" by the international press since she declared that she can speak with angels, animals and even had a friendly relationship with a British paranormal expert who can talk to dead.

And now, she met this spiritual healer boyfriend and they're doing some business outside her royal but still using her "Princess" title.

Good thing the Norwegian Royal Court intervened at the right time. All is well. I hope she'll find happiness with this Shaman.

 

[Rena M.]

Trial and error is the name of the game and by experiencing error, we know what doesn't work for us and we move on. Its the experience itself that is the best teacher.

Osipi, I know somebody who unknowingly landed in scientology, while "experiencing alternative things". Because of this I learned a lot about mind control, brainwashing, hypnosis, narcissists, psychopaths etc and my point of view drastically changed.

One thing I do know for sure is that no "outside" help or counseling is going to work unless the person being counseled is open to making changes and look at things differently.

I agree, but I hope it's not too late for her

I hope she'll find happiness with this Shaman.

I don't believe it will happen. He is still love bombing her right now, but the moment he gains full control of her mind and isolates her from her family and friends, she will be lost.

Title of no title, this is bad news for NRF

 

[theroyalfly]

I don't believe it will happen. He is still love bombing her right now, but the moment he gains full control of her mind and isolates her from her family and friends, she will be lost.

Title of no title, this is bad news for NRF

This is sad. I hope it will not lead to this.

 

[Blog Real]

Princess Martha-Louise left an Instagram message about the Amazon fires.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1d0x35iRNw/?igshid=1ulwaltopvzcq

 

[eya]

Martha Louise at Øvrevoll today to attend at the race courses

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1lz7GFCZD5/

 

[iceflower]

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Märtha Louise at the Norwegian Championship in reversing with horse trailers at the Øvrevoll Racecourse yesterday, August 25:



** seher.no video ** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** Pic 4 ** Pic 5 ** Pic 6 **

 

[iceflower]

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Märtha Louise has come by an injury while practising her favourite sport:


** Instagram gallery **

 

[SLV]

Sounds painful. I hope it heals quickly.

 

[Dalriada]

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Märtha Louise has come by an injury while practising her favourite sport:





** Instagram gallery **

I wish her well but better than a broken heart!

 

[HereditaryPrincess]

I hope ML recovers soon.

 

[eya]

Martha Louise take part today at the Hest360 celeb race

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2KCuFBi7Un/

 

[eya]

Happy 48th Birthday today to Princess Martha Louise

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2tDBwZoJta/

From Mette Marit:

"Today, is this lovely lady who still looks like a teenager birthday! Hipp hipp hurray @princessmarthalouise "

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2tM6A7oM11/

From Durek:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2t5rUmgk44/

 

[Mbruno]

A mistake? All the times??

And there won't be anymore mistakes in the future...?

Anyway, that agreement can hardly be more clear.

It is a very sensible deal and should be agreed by other European royal families as well. I am thinking specifically of Prince Nikolai of Denmark for example, who has also used his title in his modeling career.

 

[eya]

Martha Louise send her thanks about the wishes as celebrates her birthday in Svalbard


https://www.instagram.com/p/B2wcMGbix5t/

 

[eya]

Martha Louise Launching her book Sensitive Kids in Sweden


https://www.instagram.com/p/B5GxVLhAMAT/

 

[iceflower]

Here are some more photos taken during an interview she has given to promote her book in Stockholm yesterday:


** Pic 1 ** Pic 2 ** Pic 3 ** belga gallery ** rex gallery **


And this morning she was interviewed for a Swedish morning programme:


** tv4.se video: Prinsessan om sin högkänslighet: ”Reagerar på det osagda”

 

[Muhler]

Indeed. And the promotion has caused some controversy in Norway.

Dagbladet has noticed that the authors of this book called Sensitive Children are Elisabeth Nordeng and Princess Märtha Louise.

On 7th August it was agreed that ML would in the future refrain from using her title in private commercial contexts.

However, an editor from the Swedish publisher of the book, Ane Frostad, explains that the book was sent to the printers in August and they, at the publishing agency, were not aware of any controversy in Norway regarding ML's use of her title - at the time that is. They became aware of that later, but by then the book was printed and binded.
Ane Frostad doesn't remember the exact date that book was turned over for printing but there were no mentioning regarding the title of princess was not to be used.
Ane Frostad adds that the debate regarding ML's use of her title wasn't a particular issue, so that was not discussed and they put Princess Märtha Louise on the cover just as they did with previous books by ML.

ML's manager, Carina Scheele Carlsen, says to Dagbladet, that the book was send to the printers before 7th August - so too late, too bad.

The reply by text message from the PR-chief of the NRF, Guri Varpe, is interesting:
Prinsessens tittel skal ikke brukes i kommersiell sammenheng. Vi har forstått det slik at det var vanskelig å få endret det i tide i dette tilfellet, men at dette ikke skal skje ved eventuelle fremtidige utgivelser.
"The title of the Princess is not to be used in a commercial context. We have understood that it was difficult to change that in time, in this case, but that it will not (as in must not) happen in the case of future publications."

https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/derfor-brukes-prinsesse-tittelen-pa-coveret/71845243

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prinsesse-i-problemer-igen-titel-er-med-i-kommercielt-projekt

 

[Bosana]

Perhaps it is time to use the same consequences for ML as Prince Andrew of the UK is experiencing from the Queen. I would not, of course, equate his alleged transgressions in the same category of Martha Louise's. But they are/have really put their royal houses in difficult positions. And really needlessly because of their greed? arrogance? selfishness? sense of entitlement??? It pains me, when I think of the hard work and sacrifices that past kings and queens, prince and princesses of Norway have put into making the royal family so admirable -- during wars and difficulties historically -- and it has come down to this clueless woman!

 

[Muhler]

Yeah, but what to do?

But the words from the court sounded like a direct warning to me.

 

[Tatiana Maria]

Perhaps it is time to use the same consequences for ML as Prince Andrew of the UK is experiencing from the Queen. I would not, of course, equate his alleged transgressions in the same category of Martha Louise's. But they are/have really put their royal houses in difficult positions. And really needlessly because of their greed? arrogance? selfishness? sense of entitlement??? It pains me, when I think of the hard work and sacrifices that past kings and queens, prince and princesses of Norway have put into making the royal family so admirable -- during wars and difficulties historically -- and it has come down to this clueless woman!

Because the Princess's public duties are already confined to a handful of patronages and events and she is mainly visible in her private career, I'm not sure the renunciation of her remaining patronages would change how she is perceived by the public.

 

[WillVictoria]

Märtha Louise has pulled an Andrew.

https://www.bt.dk/royale/norsk-kronprinsesse-moedtes-med-jeffrey-epstein-nu-beklager-hun
https://www.dn.no/politikk/jeffrey-...og-beklager-at-jeg-ikke-gjorde-det/2-1-715469

And in English: https://www.dn.no/utenriks/jeffrey-...estigated-his-past-more-thoroughly/2-1-716538

It is confirmed she met with Jeffrey Epstein several times at his home between 2011-2013. That is after he was convicted of sexual abuse.
They met through mutual acquaintances, ML esplains.
The meetings took place in USA but one took place in Norway.

The meeting were always social events, meaning that they were never alone.
ML decided to sever the connection with Epstein when she learned that he used to connection with her, to reach other persons.

ML has through the court issued a statement:
Jeg ville aldri hatt noe med Epstein å gjøre dersom jeg hadde vært klar over alvorlighetsgraden av hans kriminelle handlinger. Jeg burde undersøkt Epsteins fortid nærmere, og beklager at jeg ikke gjorde det.
Gjennom mitt langvarige arbeid med internasjonale helsespørsmål har jeg sett på nært hold de store skadene seksuelle overgrep påfører barn og kvinner. Vi har alle medansvar for å bekjempe seksuelle overgrep og støtte ofrene, og jeg ønsker å uttrykke min dype sympati og solidaritet med ofrene for de overgrep Jeffrey Epstein har begått.

The court and ML declines to elaborate further.

So as not to tarnish Martha Louise's name/reputation, I feel obligated to say it has since been disclosed that it was CP Mette-Marit, not Martha Louise, who was spending time with Epstein. Discussion of MM's time with the disgraced financier can be found in her General News and Information Thread.

 

[carrief]

I am confused. Did both Martha Louise and Mette Marit meet with Epstein? Their statements sound exactly the same.

 

[WillVictoria]

I am confused. Did both Martha Louise and Mette Marit meet with Epstein? Their statements sound exactly the same.

It was Mette Marit. If you click on the links Mueler provided they, at this point, name Mette Marit as the royal with Epstein connections.

While I can't speak for Mueler, maybe the newspapers were initially confused and posted the wrong name before issuing a correction?

 

[tausi]

According to the article. ML never met with Jeffrey

"In a text message to the Norwegian media VG, a press officer writes that Princess Märtha-Louise has never met Epstein"

 

[Muhler]

You are absolutely right.

I have no idea why I thought about Märtha Louise.

Anyway, I will repost in the correct thread.