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Old 07-31-2007, 03:26 AM
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Hopefully, Martha Louise will recover soon! Maybe it's stress-related as you say,acdc1.

Or maybe it's the same kind of illness the Countess of Wessex was suffering from these last months...(it's just speculation, of course!)
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:48 PM
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Well, if she is not preggers, she should be able to heal thyself rather quickly. Unfortunately, warm hands are not able to cure critiscm. I wonder if Mette-Marit regrets her testimonial from years ago, considering where this is all leading.

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Old 07-31-2007, 02:55 PM
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Oh boy.
One never cease to be amazed.
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I wonder if she is any good? Anyways, i guess well all have to wait and see what happens next.
Its intresting also that the article says that M-L is charging $4,000 for a weekend course, isnt that quite abig sum of money for such a course?

Princess no longer guaranteeing a date with the angels ( worth reading, it's intresting)
By Thomas Borchert Aug 2, 2007
Oslo - Amid heavy criticism and allegations of fraud and unscrupulous business practices, Norwegian Princess Martha Louise has stopped promising her clients a personal encounter with angels - Read full article here
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Princess "ill" after criticism

Norway's Princess Märtha Louise, who last week announced that she was clairvoyant and that she would be launching a school to teach students how to "communicate with angels," is off sick after much criticism for her latest business venture.Read full article here
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Well, if she is not preggers, she should be able to heal thyself rather quickly. Unfortunately, warm hands are not able to cure critiscm. I wonder if Mette-Marit regrets her testimonial from years ago, considering where this is all leading.

Princess' 'warm hands' treated sister-in-law Mette-Marit - Aftenposten.no

I dont see why Mette Marit should regret her testimonial, warm hands is another alternative of healing imo. The worse part of this is not the warm hands but the fact that she is opening a school to contact angels & teach people etc.
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:14 AM
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This article talks much about what M-L wants to do & religion, its intresing to read also why she should do it, they also want her resignation from the church, or even her excommunication. worth reading

Princess draws more flak - read full article here
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:37 AM
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This article talks much about what M-L wants to do & religion, its intresing to read also why she should do it, they also want her resignation from the church, or even her excommunication. worth reading

Princess draws more flak - read full article here
It's interesting that they're just quoting the negative remarks from the religious leaders - when this all started, Christian newspaper Vårt Land asked several Christian leaders - ranging from the state church to missionary organizations - how they felt about it - and not one of them mentioned excommunication. Many of them were doubtful about healing crystals and whatnot, though. I think that this is less of an actual problem for the church, and more something that has been blown up by the media, given that it is summer.
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If she has the 'gift' good for her, but I believe she should separate the palace and her royal duty from this business. It won't bode well for the Queen and King to be embroiled in this.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:51 AM
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If she has the 'gift' good for her, but I believe she should separate the palace and her royal duty from this business. It won't bode well for the Queen and King to be embroiled in this.
Her having a career separate from the palace (ie. storytelling, writing books, and now this) was the reason for renouncing the HRH status before she married. Unfortunately, in most people's mind (who don't have an interest in royalty) - the HRH mean little in terms of her connection to the royal house as she still kept the Princess part of it.
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It's interesting that they're just quoting the negative remarks from the religious leaders - when this all started, Christian newspaper Vårt Land asked several Christian leaders - ranging from the state church to missionary organizations - how they felt about it - and not one of them mentioned excommunication. Many of them were doubtful about healing crystals and whatnot, though. I think that this is less of an actual problem for the church, and more something that has been blown up by the media, given that it is summer.
Its a pitty that there is not one article that gives negative & positive points. newspapers & magazines always try to exclude the positive for some reason also i think the media has put so much in it because of who she is which is not fair.
Summer is almost over, i wonder if theyll still talk about the same topic or move on..
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Hasn't history shown us that when a person or group of people claim to have an ability or power (in this case HRH M-L) that bipasses or threatens the established order (in this case the Church or leading physicians), the establishment does everything possible to squash or ruin them?
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If M-L started the school but had not planned to teach in it, would she have still received the same media attention & criticism she has?
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Probably. The media would gloss over that little fact.
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I admit I was a bit surprised when I read the news about Princess Martha Louise talking with animals and angels. I didn't know she was so spiritual!
I had a teacher who used to talk with plants. She said she could hear them singing, talking and even prayering. We, students, used to laugh with that but maybe she was right, who knows?
About the Church in Norway: the Princess didn't say anything contrary to the Gospel. The Bible is contrary to Astrology and to Magic, and not against special gifts.
For the catholic Church it wouldn't be a problem I guess. Saint Francis of Assis talked with animals too.
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Angels appeared to and talked to people in biblical times so I don't see why it should be so unusual now. And the bible does mention the gift of prophecy among others. I also thought plants liked to be talked to - the carbon dioxide and all.
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Martha Louise has unusual interests. I didn't know that. I am very sceptical about mistics, magic etc. It is very surprising that princess would start this kind of school. I did not expect this from royals in Europe, especially in Norway that is so modern.
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I did not expect this from royals in Europe, especially in Norway that is so modern.
But don’t you think this is modern? I mean many this is a huge step of a royal starting something like this & isn’t spiritual etc stuff one of the “it” things today or do you mean what she is doing/said to do is going backwards?!
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I think it has all been "pushed" too much...
I don't see any problem with Märtha-Louise being a spiritual person and beliving in angels (and talking to them).
I have to admit that I found it rather funny in the beginning, but I think you can see that it's really a serious topic for Märtha (now,that she's on sick-leave after all this criticism).
Well, I understand that there are discussions about the school she started, but I don't see any problem with her beliving in such things.
She can belive in whatever she wants... no matter if it's modern or not...
She's a princess: okay. But where's the problem? I really don't see any.. she didn't change her confession or something......
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Not that this will matter to anyone, but I do think she has the right to practice what she perceives to be acceptable to her. As long as she isn't hurting anyone. This is a far better revelation to the world than someone who practices "black magick" or some inclandecent worship.

Angels are doorways to heaven and are always a positive study!! This can't be any worse than a 'Royal" who hunts "for fun" or someone who lives vicariously through what some might regard as negligent behaviour such as drugs and obsessions with sex. She isn't bad mouthing the prevailing church in Norway or the church her parents participate in , she has been given a gift and it all depends on how she uses it now. Christianity lives in your heart and how you live your life with relation to others and God through Jesus.

Many Royals throughout European history have always placed their faith in angels, "Gods messengers" and it has always helped them in times of personal trials.

I understand the very deep rooted laws and rules of any Royal lineage no matter where you belong on this glorious planet of ours. England is now being taunted with the fact many are claiming "unfairness" that any prevalant Royal who marries a catholic risks the chance of leaving the succession race; But in Norway however, I must say that because Norway is perceived as one of the most modern countries in our 21st century life, it also holds a responsibilty to act in a openly democratic way.

Besides, and forgive me, but this country is part of the most advanced democratic societies where it is very prevalant to find unwed mothers and commonlaw relations that many partners do not even attend church. I've many good friends who live there and whose family roots are from there and it is a general acceptance that this is the norm.
God bless Norway....even if I am Canadian of Portuguese decent!!
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