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Old 01-02-2016, 05:26 PM
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The woman is 90....perhaps she just wants to make nice with whomever is near. Whatever it is who cares! Not everyone in a family is treated the same way because they are not the same people.

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Old 01-02-2016, 05:28 PM
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I think its important to remember that for a long long time (10 years or so) Sophie was the only daughter / daughter in law living close to Windsor. In fact from the mid 1990s to 2005 she was the Queen's only daughter in law. I think this explains a lot. Also the Queen maybe wants to be close to her younger grandchildren, having spent time with the others she may have felt she wants to be able to make up for lost time with Louise and James.

As Queen Camilla says Edward and Sophie live only a few minutes from Windsor so the Queen can just pop over or they can just pop over to her in a way that Anne and her children and Charles and his children couldn't.

Part of me also feels that Sophie wants to be close to the Queen, I don't mean this is a bad way but I do feel Sophie knows what side her bread is buttered and knows being close to the Queen will only help her, as well as wanting to be close to her mother in law for all the right reasons. If, for example, Sophie does have an interest in military history I'd be prepared to bet she's developed an interest in it partly knowing the Queen has an interest in it. That's not a bad thing, I think its nice to take up the same interests as members of your family but I think the key difference with Sophie is she's actively sought to be friendly / close to the Queen and put the effort and taken up the interests to do so.

Maybe the Queen changed her ways slightly after Diana and Sarah and Mark Phillips all left the family in the 1990s, maybe she lowered her defences a little and actually went out her way to be close to Sophie more than she did with the others? But equally there are stories of, for example, Diana not taking up offers of going to lunch with the Queen.

People learn from mistakes and change, maybe thats what the Queen did.

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I don't think Sophie was ever the center of attention even early in her marriage.

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Well, she certainly got a lot of tabloid interest early in her marriage (the fake sheikh scandal, etc.) - she definitely got a lot of attention for a while, even if much of it wasn't positive attention. And there really wasn't a heck of a lot else going on in the family at the time.

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Sorry Queen Camilla but I really don't think where family members live would alter the Queens feelings. We are all only guessing what she feels about who.

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It's not that proximity would change the Queen's feelings, but it would likely have an effect on who she spends her time around. Edward and Sophie live just a few minutes from Windsor, and the school that Louise and James attend is located just outside the walls of Windsor Castle. So, the Wessexes are always conveniently "around."
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:06 PM
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Sophie and Edward also live in Buckingham Palace.

Sophie is more than likely to join the Queen for breakfast, lunch, tea, dinner or cocktails than Catherine.

The Queen can invite Catherine over to Buckingham Palace but Sophie, because she lives in BP, can just drop by.

There are more chances of The Queen having meals or drinks or encounters with Sophie because of the location of their residences.

Sophie is still at Sandringham.
She and Louise were again seen going to church with the Queen.

William and Catherine may still be at Anmer but that is 3 miles down the road rather than in the same house.

Time after time it is reported that Sophie is still at Sandringham while all others have left. The same thing is reported when the family goes to Balmoral.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:18 PM
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Sophie's Relationships with the Queen and Royal Family

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Sophie and Edward also live in Buckingham Palace.

No they don't- they live at Bagshot Park

(Edited to add that their offices are at Buckingham Palace and they do have an apartment there, but it is not their primary residence and there's no reason to believe they spend any extended time there)
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:58 PM
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If the Queen is like a lot, (most?), people, she probably has very different feelings towards her children and their spouses vs her grandchildren and theirs. I think it's easier to see your children and people of their generation as adults and therefore to develop the sort of closeness that comes from being - almost - peers.

William and now Kate are probably much more similar to Louise and James in The Queen's mind than they are to Edward and Sophie.
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:32 PM
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William is a 33 years old man with 2 children of his own. Louise and James are 12 and 8 years old children. Their relationships with the Queen are going to be different. They are going to talk to her about different things.

However William's or Kate relationship with the Queen is independent of her relationship with Louise or Mike. Just like her relationship with Sophie is independent of her relationship with Camilla or Tim.

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