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Old 02-14-2019, 03:24 PM
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Court Circular 9th February:
The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh were represented by The Earl of Wessex, accompanied by The Countess of Wessex, at the Service of Thanksgiving for the Life and Ministry of the Right Reverend Peter Nott (formerly Bishop of Norwich) which was held in Norwich Cathedral, Norfolk, today.


Sophie is mentioned, but there is only Edward in the photos.
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Court Circular 9th February:
The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh were represented by The Earl of Wessex at the Service of Thanksgiving for the Life and Ministry of the Right Reverend Peter Nott (formerly Bishop of Norwich) which was held in Norwich Cathedral, Norfolk, today.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:24 PM
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The Wessexes were in St Moritz for half term:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-holiday.html

The flew out last Sunday, and more than likely arrived back in the UK today.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:54 PM
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Indeed, a correction:
Court Circular 9th February:
The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh were represented by The Earl of Wessex at the Service of Thanksgiving for the Life and Ministry of the Right Reverend Peter Nott (formerly Bishop of Norwich) which was held in Norwich Cathedral, Norfolk, today.
Originally the FE had Sophie and Edward attending but at when the event finally occurred Sophie didn't turn up. This has happened a number of times this year with events in the FE not happening along with events being listed one day and then removed the next.
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A bit surprised that the Wessexes flew on the private jet to St. Mortiz (a very celebrity mode of transport to a very celebrity location!) since they're usually very "good" at flying economy. I guess everyone deserves a bit of luxury once in a while though - the Wessexes are very hard working royals.
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:59 PM
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A bit surprised that the Wessexes flew on the private jet to St. Mortiz (a very celebrity mode of transport to a very celebrity location!) since they're usually very "good" at flying economy. I guess everyone deserves a bit of luxury once in a while though - the Wessexes are very hard working royals.
I don't think it's a good look for any of the BRF, although I'm sure they all do it every once in a while, especially when a wealthy friend is picking up the tab.
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:09 PM
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They have used a private jet to go skiing for the last few years as they have often been seen travelling with friends. I would like to think they pay for the flight themselves as it’s a private holiday. All the public would be paying for is Edward’s PPO as he has one 24/7.
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:15 AM
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The Wessex family enjoy the skiing holidays

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-holiday.html
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:42 AM
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I am disappointed that they are criticized here... the Wessexes work hard and probably have friends who will loan the private jets if this is truly what happened ... Yes they work hard unlike some and keep a low profile except when the media choose to make a mountain out of a mole hill I a trying to be not as annoyed as I really am here but I am sick of such reporting ...
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I don't get it. If they paid for 4 first class tickets on a proper airline, what do you believe the cost would be? Call a few. Usually about 5 to 7 thousand for a rather short flight. Plus the advantage of being able to take far more luggage and not having to sit and wait for your plane along with some people that will be running late is certainly worth the money if you can afford. These planes are advertised all the time now on TV and friends here are grouping together and doing the same. Heck, sure make a lot of sense to me and traveling a bit nicer.
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Old 02-23-2019, 12:15 PM
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Don't worry about - just some reporters trying to stir - they make this trip every year for over ten years. They use the same airplane and stay at the same hotel. Nothing really there. The price is also exaggerated. Just jumping on the bandwagon.
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Old 02-23-2019, 01:32 PM
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Don't worry about - just some reporters trying to stir - they make this trip every year for over ten years. They use the same airplane and stay at the same hotel. Nothing really there. The price is also exaggerated. Just jumping on the bandwagon.
The article states that they are hosted by a Swiss billionaire - I assume that means they are staying w/ the billionaire rather than at a hotel.
All of the Queen’s children, except Anne, have received bad press through the years for using private jets for extravagant vacations.
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Old 02-23-2019, 01:53 PM
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The article states that they are hosted by a Swiss billionaire - I assume that means they are staying w/ the billionaire rather than at a hotel.
All of the Queen’s children, except Anne, have received bad press through the years for using private jets for extravagant vacations.
That's why I said it's not a good look for any of the BRF, because it raises the question of who exactly the friends are who are doing these kinds of favors, and what are they getting in return. It's a legitimate question, not just the tabloids muckraking.
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Old 02-23-2019, 01:57 PM
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I do think we have to consider who the friends of royals are. Through no fault of their own they know rich people. My friends give me books for birthdays, I imagine allowing Edward and the family to spend time in “a billionaires” Swiss home is nothing but a gift to them.

I can’t really fault them. For safety and privacy reasons alone I think it’s a good idea.
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Old 02-23-2019, 03:28 PM
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I do think we have to consider who the friends of royals are. Through no fault of their own they know rich people. My friends give me books for birthdays, I imagine allowing Edward and the family to spend time in “a billionaires” Swiss home is nothing but a gift to them.

I can’t really fault them. For safety and privacy reasons alone I think it’s a good idea.
I agree with you - it’s not the Wessex’s fault they have rich friends nor is it their fault if their friends allow them to use their house.

The Swiss friend is likely to be Urs Ernst Schwarzenbach who has been their friend for decades. His wife is one of Lady Louise’s godparents so they’re obvious pretty good friends.
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I see no issue with royals flying private, especially as mentioned above regarding how much first class tickets can cost. And doesn’t this also mean Scotland Yard isn’t picking up the tab for RPOs’ airline tickets as they would just go on the private jet? The only potential criticism I can understand is about carbon footprint. But then again, a lot of us also complain about carbon emission and drive rather than take public transportation.

Hope the Wessexes have a good break!
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:08 PM
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I see no issue with royals flying private, especially as mentioned above regarding how much first class tickets can cost. And doesn’t this also mean Scotland Yard isn’t picking up the tab for RPOs’ airline tickets as they would just go on the private jet? The only potential criticism I can understand is about carbon footprint. But then again, a lot of us also complain about carbon emission and drive rather than take public transportation.

Hope the Wessexes have a good break!
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I can’t really fault them. For safety and privacy reasons alone I think it’s a good idea.

My issue with public figures accepting rides in private jets is that the "favor" is often associated with some questionable goal like getting some kind of special access that might benefit the jet's owner in the future.



It is particularly critical when the person taking the ride is a government official like a minister for example, when it is often a case of influence peddling. With the RF, I don't think it is that much of an issue, but still I'd still prefer that they didn't do it.
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:12 PM
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My issue with public figures accepting rides in private jets is that the "favor" is often associated with some questionable goal like getting some kind of special access that might benefit the jet's owner in the future.


It is particularly critical when the person taking the ride is a government official like a minister for example, when it is often a case of influence peddling. With the RF, I don't think it is that much of an issue, but still I'd still prefer that they didn't do it.
Like i said before, it's quite clear on both recent private jet accounts that they're long term friends of the people travelling in them. The Swiss Billionaire it appears to be is godfather to Louise. I genuinely don't see what royals can give a billionaire, they don't already have.
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My issue with public figures accepting rides in private jets is that the "favor" is often associated with some questionable goal like getting some kind of special access that might benefit the jet's owner in the future.

It is particularly critical when the person taking the ride is a government official like a minister for example, when it is often a case of influence peddling. With the RF, I don't think it is that much of an issue, but still I'd still prefer that they didn't do it.
I can certainly understand that at times if it goes beyond a convenient lift and there is more than just a one in awhile thing. However, I don’t see how that’s applicable in this situation. Wealthy people do give each other a lift on private jets. It is what it is. I remember in Davos, when faced with criticism of about 1,500 private jets flying in, while talking about environmental issues, one of the things they said is they encourage participants to jet pool if they have to take jets. I mean, it’s a different world, but if we think about it as giving our friends a lift in our cars.

As long as there isn’t very obvious things like actual money exchanging hands or clear quid pro quo, there are some things Are just what they are.
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If there was any public money being used I can see complaint.

Urs is a long time friend of the BRF, including Charles, they are said to be polo friends. Harry stayed in Urs' home in Australia during his gap year. Urs' wife Francesca is Louise's godmother.

Royals really have no power. They are not allowed any political say. There is no reason to think that the royals will be offering 'favors' back.
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