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Old 08-09-2014, 06:57 AM
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Sarah Ferguson to cut short Balmoral break with Prince Andrew and the Queen before Prince Philip arrives because he 'won't have her in the house' | Mail Online
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:46 AM
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Who knows if this is true ( it is the DM after all) but I wouldn't blame Philip for not wanting her there.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:19 AM
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It's the Queen's house and not Philip's.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:27 AM
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It's the Queen's house and not Philip's.
I think as Philip is "head of the family" he gets to say who stays and who goes - call it old fashioned, but it seems to have worked in their marriage
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:40 AM
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The media have been running that same story for a very long time. The very thought of Sarah having to leave before Philip arrives make me feel very bad for Andrew, Beatrice and Eugenie. Also, The Queen likes Sarah's company.

Prince Philip is just too old to be holding on to the past in this way, if it's true.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:04 AM
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The Queen is fond of all her daughters in law, and she was fond of Diana too.

Sarah Ferguson Interview on Divorce - Sarah Ferguson Princess Diana Interview - Harper's BAZAAR Magazine

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Take the 1996 divorce deal she struck with her formidable former mother-in-law, Queen Elizabeth, whom “I still see, love, and admire. “The queen and I always got on well, still do; I uphold everything Her Majesty represents, has given up her life for,” without, she believes, regrets. “It’s her duty. For her country, she’s selfless to the grave.” As for the queen’s mothering skills, she rallies an immediate, ringing defense: “I believe Her Majesty’s done the best job she can. For me, she’s been extraordinary.”
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Old 08-09-2014, 06:25 PM
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Who knows if this is true ( it is the DM after all) but I wouldn't blame Philip for not wanting her there.
A lot of reports have been running this story about Philip and his dislike for Sarah since 1992. If it wasn't true surely someone, Sarah herself, for instance would have corrected it.

There was also a report that Beatrice had asked her grandfather to allow her mother to join the family holiday at Balmoral and on a summer cruise, and he had categorically refused. That was in 2012 I think.

Then last year Sarah turned up for the first weekend and now again this year - which suggests a compromise - Sarah visits with her girls and ex-husband while Philip stays away and then when he is due she leaves.
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Old 08-09-2014, 06:27 PM
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It's the Queen's house and not Philip's.
In most marriages that I know the house is regarded as joint property - even when inherited by one partner. It is why marriage is called a 'partnership'. Even though The Queen inherited Balmoral it has also been Philip's Scottish home since 1952.
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:38 PM
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Then last year Sarah turned up for the first weekend and now again this year - which suggests a compromise - Sarah visits with her girls and ex-husband while Philip stays away and then when he is due she leaves.
Last year, if I remember right, Prince Philip didn't arrive at Balmoral right away because he was recovering from surgery...giving Sarah a chance to visit the Queen at the main castle without him there. Maybe, once the precedent was set, the Queen felt she couldn't say no, so they arrived at this compromise.

I hope that they can arrive at some sort of workable compromise in other situations where Prince Philip is involved, too.
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:44 PM
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I doubt that Philip will compromise. His dislike of Sarah is well known and I simply don't see him changing his views now.

Yes - last year Philip didn't turn up until a week or so after The Queen.

Of course Beatrice's birthday is probably also a reason for the compromise so that Beatrice is able to have a birthday dinner with her parents and grandmother - like normal people are able to do but her grandfather won't budge.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:45 PM
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All things considered, I think it's a pretty fair compromise, and I don't expect Philip to yield any further. He's staying away for a while to enable Beatrice to spend some birthday time with her parents and grandmother and I'm sure it will be an enjoyable time for those who are present. It's a shame he hasn't been able to get on top of his hostility towards Sarah, but he's an opinionated man of his time and he isn't going to change now. Andrew, Sarah, and the girls might not like it but they're used to it. At least he's consistent!
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:05 PM
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I think Prince Phillip has every right to not like Sarah and not want her around. It's probably better for Sarah too I doubt he would be very nice to her. The girls are grown up they don't need their mother around they see a lot of her so missing out on a week or two holidays with them isn't going to hurt anyone. I do wish they would stop bringing up the marriage thing it seems pretty clear it wouldn't happen with Prince Phillip around or not. Prince Andrew dates other women he and Sarah may live together but it's not as a couple. And yes it is very weird that a women into her fifties isn't living in her own home and instead lives and sponges of her ex husband. Not exactly someone to be respected.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:42 PM
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:45 PM
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I've read it over and over and over again where when it comes to The Queen and the DoE, its The Queen that is monarch over the UK and her Commonwealth nations but it is Philip that rules and reigns over his household.

Reminds me of a story I heard somewhere (this is not verbatim and if memory serves me well, it was Margaret Rhodes' tale) where while at Balmoral, the Queen, DoE and the teller of the tale were riding about on the estate with the Queen giving some back seat driving advice. Philip promptly told her to be quiet or she'd be walking. When asked why she didn't insist because after all, she IS Queen, HM replied "I didn't want to walk".

As far as the Sarah/Philip thing goes, even if Philip did "get over" his animosity towards Sarah and they all were at the Big House at the same time, there would still be an air of awkwardness that would put a pall over the visit. I think Sarah is the kind of person that would take that into consideration and out of respect for Philip, would just clear out of Balmoral by choice as to not upset the apple cart. Say whatever negative things about her that may be well earned but her empathy for other people is one of her very positive assets.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:58 PM
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Prince Andrew: Why I've stayed good friends with ex-wife Fergie-
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:17 PM
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Here's another link with a little more of the interview video:http://www.channel5.com/shows/5-news...ex-wife-fergie

I thought that Andrew looked a little sad or perhaps uncomfortable in this interview, like he is proud of his family and some of the things he's done in his life (the Falklands and his iDEA award), but he also knows that the media doesn't always portray him in a flattering light. And, to be fair, he has had some scandals and so has Sarah.

I also have the impression that Andrew is pretty attached to Sarah as the mother of his children and thinks highly of her, but he knows she doesn't enhance his public image. So he is sometimes caught in a hard place, of seemingly wanting to speak well of her, yet publicly distancing himself from her.

Sort of like he lives in two worlds, a family he's proud of but that the media doesn't like; and a public role he's trying to create for himself. Does anyone know the reason for the video? I assume it was to boost his public profile.
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:24 AM
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Here's another link with a little more of the interview video:Prince Andrew: I'm still friends with ex wife Fergie | 5 News | Channel 5

I thought that Andrew looked a little sad or perhaps uncomfortable in this interview, like he is proud of his family and some of the things he's done in his life (the Falklands and his iDEA award), but he also knows that the media doesn't always portray him in a flattering light. And, to be fair, he has had some scandals and so has Sarah.

I also have the impression that Andrew is pretty attached to Sarah as the mother of his children and thinks highly of her, but he knows she doesn't enhance his public image. So he is sometimes caught in a hard place, of seemingly wanting to speak well of her, yet publicly distancing himself from her.

Sort of like he lives in two worlds, a family he's proud of but that the media doesn't like; and a public role he's trying to create for himself. Does anyone know the reason for the video? I assume it was to boost his public profile.
He hasn't distance himself from Sarah. Sometimes they even attend events together, private trips, and sometimes they are seen together on official trips together. I think Andrew wants people to understand that's he's happy and proud of his family. Not everyone understands his relationship with Sarah and finds himself, very happily, talking about his family life. He and Sarah like talking about each other and their family. They are very proud in what they've been able to achieve.
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