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Old 08-11-2013, 10:00 PM
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When I heard of the Yorks staying at Balmoral, those were my first thoughts as well. If Beatrice and Dave Clark are planning an engagment and eventually a marriage, Sarah will be there for the celebrations. It would be practically impossible to make up plans without her. So some time with the queen and the whole York family seems logical.
Great idea (if true) but they are obviously discussing "it" without Dave.
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Old 08-11-2013, 10:58 PM
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My thoughts were that they decided to allow Sarah to attend to have a 25th birthday dinner with Beatrice and The Queen.
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:04 PM
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Prince Andrew has mentioned in a interview that The Queen and Sarah do enjoy talking to each other and about things he knows nothing about.
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:11 PM
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I like the idea with the engagement. I need a new Royal Wedding so bad (I know it won´t be broadcasted, but still)
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:18 PM
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I'm not sure about a wedding but you never know what the future holds for Andrew & Sarah.
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:11 AM
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I'm not sure about a wedding but you never know what the future holds for Andrew & Sarah.
Like many others, I do think that Andrew and Sarah will get married again, but I don't think they are in a rush to do so. If it's true that prince Philip is firmly against the idea, I think they will wait until he's no longer with us. But anyway, I think it's going to happen - perhaps in 10 years or so?
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Great idea (if true) but they are obviously discussing "it" without Dave.

Maybe he's already signed off on the plans? If he's like many men, it'll be Just tell me when to show up!
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:08 AM
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As others have suggested, I always got the impression that Prince Philip was / is the main barrier to a rapprochement of Sarah and the family, and that the Queen always had a soft spot for her, despite her problems over the years.

I think this is fantastic news for Sarah - first time in Balmoral since that horrible tabloid entrapment story. It always breaks my heart to see her excluded from these events (and it must be really tough for Beatrice and Eugenie!), so I'm just really happy for her that this is happening!
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:21 AM
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How often does Mark Philips attend royal family events if his own children aren't involved? He is, afterall, exactly the same - the divorced spouse of one of the Queen's children and the other parent of two of her grandchildren.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:35 AM
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How often does Mark Philips attend royal family events if his own children aren't involved? He is, afterall, exactly the same - the divorced spouse of one of the Queen's children and the other parent of two of her grandchildren.
I wouldn't say that it's exactly the same. Anne is remarried to another man (Tim Laurence). Andrew isn't.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:36 AM
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I think Mark attends little family events. Everynow and then you'd spot him at one of Zara's events, although I haven't seen him in a while.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:15 AM
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Also, I think the royal family has learned from the mistakes made with Sarah and Diana. Kate had more support and more time to adjust to royal life. It's possible that the Queen has realized Sarah could have benefited from more support in the past (and still can).
One thing I have always admired about Sarah is that she takes responsibility for her own action and has (for the most part) refused to blame the Queen or anyone else for failing to "support" her.

It's certainly nice when divorced couples are able to get along with each other and it would be even nicer if the extended family can forgive and move on.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:46 AM
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Sarah did place some responsibility on the royals but I think everything has calmed down between them and mellowed with the passing of the years.

I agree, I think it's very nice and the family respect the fact that Andrew & Sarah has remained good friends and was able to keep their family together, despite past issues.
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Old 08-12-2013, 01:10 PM
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I've been wondering whether there's going to be some kind of significant change in the York family soon. Between Sarah's being invited to Balmoral Castle (not just a home on the estate) and Beatrice's taking on Royal patronages, I think there's something afoot. Here are a couple of guesses: Andrew and Sarah will re-formalize their relationship in some way and the Princesses will take a more active role publicly as their father quietly takes on fewer duties.
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Old 08-12-2013, 01:27 PM
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I don't think the girls taking on more public engagements is going to be in place of Andrew taking on fewer. I think instead we're going to see Princess Alexandra, the Duke of Kent, and Prince Philip doing less, while the York sisters begin to do more (and hopefully be recognized for what they do in the CC).
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Yes, you make a good point re the oldest members of the family.
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Old 08-12-2013, 01:52 PM
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They're not the oldest (well Philip is), but they're certainly up there and they have all had health problems this year and have been doing less.

I think we can expect to see the three of them, along with the Queen and possibly even the Gloucesters doing less in the near future. Charles will take over more for his mother, while the other royals will take over the "slack" that's left elsewhere. With at least four, possibly 6, working royals doing less there's room for William, Catherine, Beatrice, and Eugenie to do more.

My only hope is that if Beatrice and/or Eugenie wish to do more and do do more then they're recognized as doing such. Some of the argument towards them being lazy and what not can be mitigated simply by recognizing them for whatever royal duties they perform. They have done stuff that is representative of the family or country in the past that if one of the Queen's children or Charles' sons had done would have been reported in the CC, but for them hasn't been.
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:04 PM
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They're not the oldest (well Philip is), but they're certainly up there and they have all had health problems this year and have been doing less.

I think we can expect to see the three of them, along with the Queen and possibly even the Gloucesters doing less in the near future. Charles will take over more for his mother, while the other royals will take over the "slack" that's left elsewhere. With at least four, possibly 6, working royals doing less there's room for William, Catherine, Beatrice, and Eugenie to do more.

My only hope is that if Beatrice and/or Eugenie wish to do more and do do more then they're recognized as doing such. Some of the argument towards them being lazy and what not can be mitigated simply by recognizing them for whatever royal duties they perform. They have done stuff that is representative of the family or country in the past that if one of the Queen's children or Charles' sons had done would have been reported in the CC, but for them hasn't been.
Agree with your post but I'm questioning William and Catherine. William is probably not leaving the services and Catherine will IMO do about the same as she was doing last year, and then have 1 or 2 more children. She will probably not go full-time until she is closer to 40.

And that is probably why, with your other reasons, why Beatrice will do some royal events.

I have no evidence to proffer in support of my view, it's JMO
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You have a good point. I'm not trying to assume that William or Catherine are going to do more, just saying that with older royals doing less there is a vacuum for younger royals to do more.
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:13 PM
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You have a good point. I'm not trying to assume that William or Catherine are going to do more, just saying that with older royals doing less there is a vacuum for younger royals to do more.
Absolutely right. What will be interesting if it does happen is how the press and public will handle it.

And more importantly, the Palaces PR machine. Best approach is "at the request of HMQ" and " no additional cost to the tax payer".
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