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Old 09-19-2006, 08:00 PM
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After all, her "work" with Weight Watchers is hardly charity, is it? -- she does get paid for it, I would imagine...

Yes, she does get paid for it.
And I agree with your above statement regarding her and Andrew re-marrying. Sarah can't handle the royal life. It just doesn't suit her personality. She wants to have it both ways - the freedom of not being a royal, but the "status" of being a royal and being a part of royalty events. But it just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If her and Andrew re-married, it would be the same problems (nightmares) all over again. And it really has nothing to do with whether her & Andrew get along or not.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:43 PM
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Yes, she does get paid for it.
And I agree with your above statement regarding her and Andrew re-marrying. Sarah can't handle the royal life. It just doesn't suit her personality. She wants to have it both ways - the freedom of not being a royal, but the "status" of being a royal and being a part of royalty events. But it just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If her and Andrew re-married, it would be the same problems (nightmares) all over again. And it really has nothing to do with whether her & Andrew get along or not.
Well of course she gets paid for it. It is a job after all. You get paid for working, don't you? Should she expect to do it for free? If she didn't have a job, every Sarah basher on this board would call her a freeloader (many do already, although she carries out more public engagements per year for WW than the members of the Royal Family do for the Queen). More and more British citizens are becoming overweight. IMO Sarah is bringing public recognition to an issue that is usually treated like a dirty and shameful disease. Kudos to her and to Beatrice (with her dyslexia) for not being ashamed to talk about their struggles and giving support to those that share them.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:48 PM
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And I agree with your above statement regarding her and Andrew re-marrying. Sarah can't handle the royal life. It just doesn't suit her personality. She wants to have it both ways - the freedom of not being a royal, but the "status" of being a royal and being a part of royalty events. But it just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If her and Andrew re-married, it would be the same problems (nightmares) all over again. And it really has nothing to do with whether her & Andrew get along or not.
I agree with you rchat.

I think as things stand now, Sarah has the best of both worlds that she could want. She gets to have the royal status and clout of being introduced on Oprah or Larry King as "The Duchess of York" without having the intensity of the media scrutiny and public criticism that the rest of the royal family is subjected to, and she gets to have the freedom of living life by her own rules rather than following the strict royal protocol that originally suffocated her so.

The end of Sarah and Andrew's marriage didn't really have much to do with a lack of love between the two of them as was the case with Charles and Diana. While the Yorks may have loved each other less by the end of their marriage, they were both still on good terms with each other -- enough certainly for the two of them to live under one roof at a point when Sarah was trying to dig herself out of bankruptcy. The problem for Andrew and Sarah was that Sarah found life under the thumb of the grey men intolerable and so long as Andrew was his mother's son and devoted to duty through and through and would not remove himself from the line to the throne to run off into the sunset with her, the couple are at a stalemate about their future.

As much as they are good friends now, and as much as the other says they love the other and as much as they love their daughters, getting re-married will only result in the same end: divorce.
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Kimebear...why do you bang your head against the wall with the Sarah bashers? They will never like or forgive her.

In regards to having it both ways...she does have it both ways. She continues to do her "work (and uses her royal connections)" and has access to to the society life because she is an ex royal (in this way she is no different than a lot of of the German, Italian, and French royalty)...the only reason Sarah get more attention is that she did it with the British Royal Family. I don't see anyone criticizing those royals..and she doesn't even do it in England!

I am afraid that Sarah and Andrew will probably never remarry..nor is it likely that they will marry anyone else. In this instance..they have the best of both worlds as well.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:52 PM
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*Sigh*, I know, I know.
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:12 PM
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Kimebear...why do you bang your head against the wall with the Sarah bashers?
Well, this is what I'm wondering but because I've made a comment or two here about Sarah, that does not make me a "Sarah basher".

I admit I'm no particular fan of the lady, but I try to make my remarks objective and I'm not here just to criticise the woman. And I AM new...

If this thread is just for Sarah supporters, please let me know.
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:34 PM
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Of course the thread is not just for supporters. But it does seem to get more than its share of bashers, of which I wasn't including you. Sorry if it seemed so.
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That's okay, kimebear. Thank you.
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Old 09-20-2006, 05:59 AM
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This thread by all means is not just for Sarah supporters. It is to share the current events and news of Sarah, Duches of York.

It does seem, however, that we do spend a lot of time "rehashing" old issues and defending and/or criticizing Sarah for past behavior. IMO at lot of people have a formed opinion of Sarah (and they are entitled to it) and unless something drastic happens...its not going to change anytime soon. So why do we go round and round in circles.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:28 PM
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Well of course she gets paid for it. It is a job after all. You get paid for working, don't you? Should she expect to do it for free?
There's no need to get snippy! I was simply answering Avareenah's question.


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(...although she carries out more public engagements per year for WW than the members of the Royal Family do for the Queen).
I totally disagree with this statement.


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More and more British citizens are becoming overweight. IMO Sarah is bringing public recognition to an issue that is usually treated like a dirty and shameful disease. Kudos to her and to Beatrice (with her dyslexia) for not being ashamed to talk about their struggles and giving support to those that share them.
I never said anything negative about her gig with Weight Watchers. I was referring to Avareenah's comment about them re-marrying.

And for the record I am not a basher either... and this is my first post in this thread. I simply tell it like I see it, whether good or bad, but I am entitled to my opinion, even if it differs from yours.
It would be nice if people could give their opinion without the "Sarah Police" jumping all over them.
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
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This thread by all means is not just for Sarah supporters. It is to share the current events and news of Sarah, Duchess of York.
It does seem, however, that we do spend a lot of time "rehashing" old issues and defending and/or criticizing Sarah for past behavior. IMO at lot of people have a formed opinion of Sarah (and they are entitled to it) and unless something drastic happens...its not going to change anytime soon. So why do we go round and round in circles.
Who said anything about "old issues"? We were giving our assessment on the situation as it is today. Curiously, the ones who seem to keep bringing up Sarah's "past"... are her supporters themselves.
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From what I understand, the "Duchess of York" part is the same as Mrs Smith. It's her name. She can't help using it. That doesn't make mean she is milking her royal connection. Unless there is a new law that any ex-wife must revert to her birth name...
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:42 PM
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From what I understand, the "Duchess of York" part is the same as Mrs Smith. It's her name. She can't help using it. That doesn't make mean she is milking her royal connection. Unless there is a new law that any ex-wife must revert to her birth name...
Who are you replying to? Nobody said anything about her name.
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Who said anything about "old issues"? We were giving our assessment on the situation as it is today. Curiously, the ones who seem to keep bringing up Sarah's "past"... are her supporters themselves.
Actually the "old issues (i.e. Sarah's work with weight watchers, the alleged plastic surgery, having the best of both worlds, whether Sarah is suited for royal life) were the issues that I was referencing. And far from being a Sarah supporter, I am a Sarah realist where I recognize the best and worst of Sarah.
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:49 AM
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Watching Diana's funeral on tv sometime that fateful week in september '97, I was noticing with a bit of dismay how, well, unmoved <all> members of the Royal Family seemed in regards to the nature of the event. Even Diana's own sons had expressions on their faces that looked more like they were attending the funeral of a great-aunt they never knew that well than the final goodbye to their own mother.
Well, the royals were bred to be self diciplined to a fault and her kids might have gotten all their anger and hurt out of their systems before the funeral so maybe they were just emotionally drained and also in a bit of shock.
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:40 AM
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I believe William and Harry were told that they were not to cry or show any emotion during the funeral. It must have been extremely hard.

Back to Sarah, she's made mistakes. We all have. Sarah's may have been a little bigger and front page news but it's time to move on. You can like or dislike her but there's no reason to bring up issues over and over again that are well in the past.
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Sarah has a publicist? Pardon my naievete, but why?
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we acknowledge her past but I think Sarah needs to grow up..
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Sarah has a publicist? Pardon my naievete, but why?
Usually people have a publicist to help them maintain their market value. Hey that does apply to Sarah: she needs help to maintain her $ value with her public so Weight Watchers will renew her lucrative contract.
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More and more British citizens are becoming overweight. IMO Sarah is bringing public recognition to an issue that is usually treated like a dirty and shameful disease.
I think it a little unfair to say Sarah brings recognition to people who pig themselves, it is hardly a disease, just over indulgence. I'm sure if everyone had the same money as Sarah, they could all lose weight if they wanted to, the cost of joining this 'club' puts it beyond helping those who are most in need. IMO.

As for Sarah, I'm glad she is no longer a member of the royal family and whilst being happy for her that she has managed a friendly divorce for the sake of the children, I wish she would stop living off her royal connections in the states. I remember watching a programme where she told Ruby Wax that she was still an HRH and although it was a long time ago, the memory lingers.
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