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Old 01-21-2015, 02:14 AM
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I thought that places and times and some details had been alleged
Though it's possible they are out there, I have not seen any accounts of specific dates or places or times. Radar Online apparently has copies of 24 "jaw-dropping pages" of Roberts' hand-written "sex-slave diary", but I haven't found all 24 pages available anywhere. I would love to see them if anyone else has a link. I mean the whole thing, not just parts of a few pages.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:17 AM
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It's only the tabloids who are saying he will address the scandal. When he doesn't, then they can criticize him for ducking the issue and NOT addressing it
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Andrew should address the scandal. He should do it at home and be truthful.
How many times do we have to reiterate that he and Alan Dershowitz were "mentioned" in the documents of a Civil Suit against Mr Epstein.
They are not the subjects!

This is not, repeat not a Criminal Case, it is a Civil Suit for financial gain!!!
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:27 AM
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I thought the suit was against the federal prosecutors (not Epstein)? From what I understand, some of the victims were suing because prosecutors failed to consult them before Epstein's plea deal and they were seeking to overturn it.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:32 AM
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I am amazed at the responses on this thread. Some have him guilty of debaunching an innocent and think banishing him from public life, or is it the UK, is the answer.



Others say, hang on a minute, has he broken the law? Has he been charged with a criminal offense? No? Then what the hell is with the flog him and bury him brigade. Due process? Guilty by association more like because the niceties of the law don't apply to Andrew because of who he is.



Question for our US members: Is Alan Dershowitz getting this sort of publicity and heat?

He is not. Alan Dershowitz.
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:47 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's not Civil Suit for ...financial gain!!!



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Old 01-21-2015, 08:22 AM
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So palace have confirmed Andrew will give speech tomorrow Don't expect him to say much just allude to scandal briefly I think. Anything else would be crazy


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Old 01-21-2015, 08:24 AM
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So palace have confirmed Andrew will give speech tomorrow Don't expect him to say much just allude to scandal briefly I think. Anything else would be crazy


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Where have BP confirmed this? And is it confirmed he will speak about this issue or that he's going to speak?
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:33 AM
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And this isn't good news either
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...gs-emerge.html


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Old 01-21-2015, 08:42 AM
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And this isn't good news either
Prince Andrew under renewed pressure to speak about 'sex abuse' claims after flight logs emerge - Telegraph


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ohh...aahh.... nooo... This will not be good.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:24 AM
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I doubt that he has done what he is accused of, but should it prove to be some truth to it, which also means that he has lied to the palace, then we have one of the biggest royal scandals ever.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:44 AM
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Prince Andrew under renewed pressure to speak about 'sex abuse' claims after flight logs emerge - Telegraph


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I can't click - I've reached my 10 a month quota (which I never reach with The Telegraph, thanks Andy, haha). But I saw the headlines about the flight logs being made public.

Fasten you seatbelts, royal peeps, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:48 AM
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I can't click - I've reached my 10 a month quota (which I never reach with The Telegraph, thanks Andy, haha). But I saw the headlines about the flight logs being made public.

Fasten you seatbelts, royal peeps, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
It says that flight manifests tell that he was at the places the girl is saying he was at the times.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:53 AM
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It says that flight manifests tell that he was at the places the girl is saying he was at the times.
Oh. Oh, dear.
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:54 AM
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Flight logs from the private jet of the Duke’s friend Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender, show Virginia Roberts and the Duke were both in the locations where she claims to have had sex with him, at the relevant times.
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It is understood that any reference he makes to the scandal will be brief and will simply underline his previous denials, but it would nevertheless set a new precedent for a member of the Royal family to make a public statement about allegations of a sexual nature.
At some point, guilty or not, fair or not Andrew needs to slip quietly into the background and 'retire'
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:02 AM
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Guilty or not, there was always a percentage of the population who were inclined to believe Virginia Roberts. Now there's a larger percentage. Where this will go, nobody knows.

IF he did hire a lawyer, we were all wondering about the timing- might it have been because he knew the flight records had been obtained and knew we were going a bit past the "he said she said stage?"
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I have no doubt it is possible that he slept with the girl. I have always found that very possible, so these manifests doesn't surprise me. While that alone can be seen as morally wrong it's not illegal in any way. At best it is PR-stupid. This alone is bad enough in the press. But the "real" problem now is the extent of his knowledge. Did he just think he got lucky with a young woman or did he know more?
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:20 AM
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The thing is, as Richard Palmer stated, if Andrew worked for the government he would have been sacked ages ago. He is still representing Britain because he is only accountable to the Queen. No one elected Andrew to do anything on their behalf.

If he were just joe blow, no one would care but the fact he gets second, third and fourth chances solely because he's the Queen's second son will begin to hurt the image of the BRF in the eyes of the public
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:21 AM
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The thing is, as Richard Palmer stated, if Andrew worked for the government he would have been sacked ages ago. He is still representing Britain because he is only accountable to the Queen. No one elected Andrew to do anything on their behalf.

If he were just joe blow, no one would care but the fact he gets second, third and fourth chances solely because he's the Queen's second son will begin to hurt the image of the BRF in the eyes of the public
This I agree with. The BRF must be very careful.. One time to many can hurt them really bad.
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:37 AM
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Meanwhile fresh legal papers submitted to a Florida court on Tuesday evening allege that Epstein asked Miss Roberts to have his baby in return for cash and a mansion.

She describes the “disgustingly sick” proposition in an interview with her lawyer, saying he wanted her to hand the baby over to him and his girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of the late newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell.

She said: “He offered me a mansion and some of his money every month, I forget what he called it, a monthly income of what he made to bear one of his children.

“The proposition was that if anything ever happened between Jeffrey and I, that I would have to sign my child over to him basically and that the child would be his and Ghislaine’s, and I would be looking after it as long as nothing happened between Jeffrey and I.

“So, I was kind of freaked out by all of that.”

She said it was the final straw that convinced her to flee from Epstein and build a new life in Australia.
Ms Roberts is certainly not backing down in regards to Epstein.

I reckon Andrew has about one life left, if he gets 'implicated' any further I think his goose is cooked at least as far as being a senior member of the royal family
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Old 01-21-2015, 05:31 PM
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I have no doubt it is possible that he slept with the girl. I have always found that very possible, so these manifests doesn't surprise me. While that alone can be seen as morally wrong it's not illegal in any way. At best it is PR-stupid. This alone is bad enough in the press. But the "real" problem now is the extent of his knowledge. Did he just think he got lucky with a young woman or did he know more?
I agree. Because if he did know more, and if the plaintiffs are successful in having the plea bargain set aside and the co-conspirators are fair game again, he could be in real trouble. Still all speculation, of course, but, especially now we know they were in the same place at the same time, I think it's likely he did have sex with her, and I also think it's unlikely that he would be so arrogant and/or stupid as to believe he just got lucky so many times, and if he did know more he'd be foolish to NOT be engaging a darn good lawyer.

How Andrew must wish he lived in the days of his great-uncle, Prince George, Duke of Kent! In George's day you could get away with all manner of scandalous activity and it could be kept from the public.
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