Another unsympathetic view from The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-prince-andrew-hasnt-put-his-fat-finger-on-it
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-prince-andrew-hasnt-put-his-fat-finger-on-it
Because it's 99,9% likely not a fake and they're reaching for anything that might make him look slightly less like a villain.I guess what confuses me is that the Virginia Roberts/Prince Andrew photo has been out there for several years now. If HRH knew immediately that it was a fake or doctored photo, why no outrage until now?
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The Telegraph reports the FBI is examining the photo of Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts to verify its authenticity
Another unsympathetic view from The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-prince-andrew-hasnt-put-his-fat-finger-on-it
Do consider this story as “developing”.
I guess what confuses me is that the Virginia Roberts/Prince Andrew photo has been out there for several years now. If HRH knew immediately that it was a fake or doctored photo, why no outrage until now?
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What is Andrew going to do if the FBI comes back says the photo is legitimate?
This photo has been around for years, right? Why wasn’t he denying it then? Why is their second hand denials now? Also he realizes there are other pictures from that night showing both of them in those clothes? So ridiculous.
No.Do you think Andrew will agree to a lie-detector test?
It’s all fake news. Everything seems to be these days so why not this. That or women all lie about these type of things. Just for attention or a massive amount of money. And these poor men are secretly innocent.
As for Virginia R-G, I don't really see how she could have been traffiked and sold as a sex slave when she was free to go and got payed for it instead of having been kidnapped and forced into sex.
As for Virginia R-G, I don't really see how she could have been traffiked and sold as a sex slave when she was free to go and got payed for it instead of having been kidnapped and forced into sex. Now that the public opinion is so firmly for the young woman and so much money at stake while the accused Epstein is already dead, it's quite easy to imagine that some women might think that the higher the socical level of former "abusers/clients/sex partners" the more money you might get as recompensation. Plus the main accusseress is now married with three kids - so there is the opinion of her family on her former life to consider.
e life and consider him innocent until proven guilty.
Hmm, I see this as a proof for the idea, that 17 year old girls are not allowed to vote and what not (drinking, serving in the army... working as hookers).
They are not fully able to understand some things - this is why!
This Virgina girl was a teenage escort while being protected by the law. She was 17, when she was with Prince Andrew.
Now one could say, she looked at least like 18 - but this is, what the courts always hear... - by the perpetrators.
I think that Andrew is the easiest target for the tabloid press. When you look at the array of bold-faced names connected to this scandal -- presidents, prime ministers, media moguls, etc., Andrew alone is hamstrung by his position and the expected behavior of a senior member of the BRF. Not for him the ironic riposte or trash talk better suited to WrestleMania promos.
The other men are powerful and influential people used to verbal combat in front of an audience. Politicians, media titans, famed lawyers and the like got to where they are in life by being tenacious bulldogs. A senior BRF member IMHO is not equipped to personally take the lead and change the narrative of an evolving PR disaster in another country. The newspaper people know it and are circling.
Andrew brought this man to Balmoral..The family may be the face of the monarchy in the UK but they're by no means puppets on a string and each have their individual likes and dislikes and personal friends and hobbies and interests. Andrew is no different. He's a grown man of 59 years old and responsible for himself.
He's made mistakes. He's used poor judgement. He has his own set of friends and hobbies and interests and has pursued them like the rest of us do. This situation belongs to Andrew and Andrew alone. I don't seriously believe that Andrew's actions in this matter is going to affect how people look and see the other members of the British royal family at all. Organizations that have Andrew as a patron may dump him and charities may request he be removed from being their representative. That would reflect on Andrew. Its not going to carry over to the Queen and any other member of her family or the institution of the monarchy as a whole.
Like the rest of us on this planet, Andrew has free will.
This came through from the Times. Sorry it's a paywall.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ews-friendship-with-jeffrey-epstein-2d3lqhcxx
The Sun is running a similar story. I wish the sources are named but I believe BP is worried about this mess.
Andrew brought this man to Balmoral..
That doesn't surprise me as Balmoral has a golf course (which the Queen recently opened to the public). Epstein may have been the epitome of what a gentleman of character is not like but he didn't pollute Balmoral by staying there with some contagious disease. At the time, I'm sure the Queen gave Andrew permission.
I'm sure the Queen has had quite a few less than reputable people stay at the castle or on the estate over the years.
That's not the point. Every time this sort of thing happens the RF will sink a little more in public estimation....
To be honest, having Epstein to stay at Balmoral is one of the lesser worries that concern Andrew at this time. I do believe the focus is on Andrew though and not really reflecting on the BRF at all.
Worse comes to worse, Andrew will be branded as the black sheep of the family that has disgraced himself. But that's my opinion.
It has been *alleged* by the Daily Mail - based on an *anonymous* source - that Andrew invited Epstein to Balmoral. IMO it doesn't prove or disprove anything.The larger point is that unless Andrew is in the habit of inviting random, hardly known acquaintances to Balmoral, this is part of a larger picture that disproves Andrew's assertion that he only knew Epstein slightly. While I agree that Andrew has much larger problems than this, it adds to the narrative in a way that is not to Andrew's, or the royal family's, benefit.