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I agree with you. I was wondering why he all of a sudden showed up with a date at ascot. Maybe now he is finally reading the papers which I read somewhere he does not do & paying attention to what she has been saying in the media about the closeness of their relationship or maybe his mother just flat out told him she is making you look like a damn fool again. The little bit that I saw for her show yesterday I saw she was very confrontational toward Dr. Phil. She actually said to him well you are the genuis here tell me what you think. He said she does not want to hear what he thinks because it goes into areas she does not want to talk about. They were talking about her putting Andrew up for sale. Then what really got me was there was a small bit of her in a store in New York City shopping for hats & clothes. This from a woman who is supposed to be so close to broke. Yeah Right once again Andy has been taken for a ride but just doesn't have sense enough to get off the horse. Like you I wish he would remarry because I am sure once the relationship got serious Sarah would be out of the Royal Lodge pronto.
I also was very pleased to hear that Andrew escorted someone to Ascot this year as it speaks louder than words ever could. I really do hope that he can find a mature, loving relationship and file the past where it belongs as his daughters are old enough now to manage their own lives and it would also send a very clear signal to Sarah that as much as he may respect her as the mother of his children, he is no longer "attached" to her for any reason at all. Once he does seriously get involved with someone romantically, even if it didn't lead to marriage, it would send a signal to Sarah that she needs to move on with her life.

It doesn't surprise me that any mention of the "Cash for Access" or the little fact about Epstien's financial aid are going to subjects that will get Sarah's hackles up because she knows deep down that there's no one to blame for these actions except herself. Or perhaps dealing with those subjects are just too much "Sarah" and not the "Brand Sarah" that the multitudes of followers she's imagining can identify with. Emotional problems that can be blamed on external things (bad marriage, bad parenting, or environmental) make one a victim which Sarah is portraying herself to be. Things like greed are character shortcomings and for the most part stem from self-absorption which is really the issues that need to be addressed IMHO and is clearly shown in the clip of Sarah out shopping for things that any sane person would realize is not a necessity and totally contradicts the help she is supposedly getting from these therapists. A parallel would be filming someone drastically needing to lose weight and going on a "journey" to better health such as a health farm, digging into the roots of why the overeating exists and setting goals etc and then filming the person going on a spree to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and then retiring for the night with Ben and Jerry. The clear message being sent out then is "hey folks... this show is really a joke.. do not attempt this at home.".

I've really a sinking feeling that this is but a step downwards for Sarah on the destruction spiral and that she's headed for even more of a breakdown but its been well known that a person has to seriously hit their own rock bottom and realize it before they can start the uphill climb.
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[although this time, please DO NOT SPONGE OFF your daughters and borrow THAT hat!!]
I'm going to start a group to defend hats against this kind of bashing. It's not fair to those who might have a lop headed haircut. Hats have feelings too!

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I also have to say that the sums involved are not consistent with university help - Courses are expensive now, but they don't cost £500,000+ [and didn't Sarah also tell the Sheikh that apart from the £500,000 access payment, she also wanted 'a lick of the spoon' [as she put it] from any deal that subsequently came about as a result of the 'introduction' facilitated by Sarah...? What did 'uni' need that 'lick' for?

The 500K was for her, the initial 40K was what Sarah claimed was for the friend. Though I'm now having a flashback to the look in her eyes when she saw the cash. A bit too hungry for someone who's planning to give it away.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:48 PM
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I also was very pleased to hear that Andrew escorted someone to Ascot this year as it speaks louder than words ever could. I really do hope that he can find a mature, loving relationship and file the past where it belongs as his daughters are old enough now to manage their own lives and it would also send a very clear signal to Sarah that as much as he may respect her as the mother of his children, he is no longer "attached" to her for any reason at all. Once he does seriously get involved with someone romantically, even if it didn't lead to marriage, it would send a signal to Sarah that she needs to move on with her life.

It doesn't surprise me that any mention of the "Cash for Access" or the little fact about Epstien's financial aid are going to subjects that will get Sarah's hackles up because she knows deep down that there's no one to blame for these actions except herself. Or perhaps dealing with those subjects are just too much "Sarah" and not the "Brand Sarah" that the multitudes of followers she's imagining can identify with. Emotional problems that can be blamed on external things (bad marriage, bad parenting, or environmental) make one a victim which Sarah is portraying herself to be. Things like greed are character shortcomings and for the most part stem from self-absorption which is really the issues that need to be addressed IMHO and is clearly shown in the clip of Sarah out shopping for things that any sane person would realize is not a necessity and totally contradicts the help she is supposedly getting from these therapists. A parallel would be filming someone drastically needing to lose weight and going on a "journey" to better health such as a health farm, digging into the roots of why the overeating exists and setting goals etc and then filming the person going on a spree to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and then retiring for the night with Ben and Jerry. The clear message being sent out then is "hey folks... this show is really a joke.. do not attempt this at home.".

I've really a sinking feeling that this is but a step downwards for Sarah on the destruction spiral and that she's headed for even more of a breakdown but its been well known that a person has to seriously hit their own rock bottom and realize it before they can start the uphill climb.

Oh I forgot to mention that the article said that Andrew & his date was later joined by her majesty & one of his girls I think it was Eugenie. So I guess this woman is no stranger. The article did not say who she was but she was wearing one of the biggest hats I have ever seen.
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Just read this report about yet another interview:
Sarah Ferguson: Would Princess Diana Have Approved Of Princess Catherine? | Access Hollywood - Celebrity News, Photos & Videos

LOS ANGELES, Calif. --
Princess Diana didn’t live long enough to see son Prince William wed, but according to fellow Royal and good friend Sarah Ferguson, the late Princess would have had fun getting to know Princess Catherine.
“What would Princess Diana think about Kate?,” Kit Hoover asked the Duchess of York of on Monday’s Access Hollywood Live.
“Well, she was just such a great lady, she was my best friend since I was 14. We had a lot of laughter. She had the best wit of anybody. I think she would have loved to gone on to have a little girl,” Sarah told Kit and Billy Bush. “Perhaps with Catherine, she would have [had] such fun going around doing all the things, fashion and helping her with all her clothes for this great, big long trip [to Canada and California].”
“Do you understand why you weren’t invited [to the Royal Wedding]? Was it the right thing for the royals not to invite you?” Billy asked.
“Yes completely,” the “Finding Sarah” star said. “I was so proud of them. Catherine is beautiful. She is serene like a swan and it’s such a lovely, new fresh start, young love, and it’s fabulous.”
Sarah revealed that she has yet to meet the Royal family’s newest member.
“I’ve never met her but I’ve seen her and I’m rather fascinated with how wonderful and she looks so beautiful and I just love the romance and the whole thing,” she added.

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According to reports (either DM or Telegraph) she is a long time friend (according to her) and has said they are only friends, and she works in an art gallery. In any event, Sarah knows that as soon as Andrew is in a serious relationship she is going to be sent packing.

As to her "friend" needing money ... Sarah is "the friend" IMO. I don't hate Sarah but I am really vastly tired of her. She seems to have a sense of entitlement based on what others have, whether it is the Polo/racing set or her former sister in law. The fact is, Sarah Ferguson NEVER had the drawing power of Diana, Princess of Wales.

I have no knowledge of trust laws in the UK but IMO, someone needs to move in, if possible, and put some restrictions on the trust funds belonging to the girls and I'm guessing the only person who can do this is HM the Queen. Whoever may have power in this situation, whether Andrew or HM, they need to grow a spine and set some limits.

ETA ... good grief ... re: Access Hollywood ... Sarah is NOT A FELLOW ROYAL AND HAS NOT BEEN FOR 20 YEARS. She really needs to get over herself. This current nonsense calling her a "star" is just pulling her in deeper and deeper, IMO.
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Oh I forgot to mention that the article said that Andrew & his date was later joined by her majesty & one of his girls I think it was Eugenie. So I guess this woman is no stranger. The article did not say who she was but she was wearing one of the biggest hats I have ever seen.
Prince Andrew's new love? New York art dealer Judith Hess insists there's 'no romance' | Mail Online

There is an article in the DM about her.
Oh yes, the hat was very eyecatching.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:11 PM
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I can't believe it!!!! Not only is Sarah - on her own admission in the programme still 'teetering on the verge of bankruptcy' but what on earth does she she clothes and hats for? She seems to have quite enough stuff to wear......and why hats? As she is not royal, she doesn't need them for royal engagements and if there are any weddings or christenings or church services on the horizon, why doesn't she just look in her wardrobe [which is extensive] and find an existing hat to wear? [although this time, please DO NOT SPONGE OFF your daughters and borrow THAT hat!!]

Oh, I think that was all part of the "show," with OWN footing the bill. If there is one thing that Sarah Ferguson excels in, it is spending money: especially money that isn't hers.
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This puts me in mind of a question I'd like to ask. Has there really been a lot of press (tabloid or otherwise) in the UK following this latest venture by Sarah at all?
There has been some press comment about Sarah's latest 'venture'. I read The Times and The Telegraph and also glance at some of the tabloids. On the whole there has not been enormous coverage - the Times and the Telegraph have carried short 'sensible' articles about 'Sarah teetering on the verge of bankruptcy' and the tabloids have carried slightly longer articles about 'Fergie behaving badly'.

I had the honour to be at Royal Ascot last week and the appearance of Beatrice and Eugenie did cause people to talk about Sarah's Oprah venture, which, oddly enough, they all knew about even though the press coverage had been fairly muted [perhaps they are all secret 'RF lurkers'?]. The talk was, I regret to say, rather 'anti-Sarah', with people saying that she had let down the Queen and it was terrible that it should be going on at the same time that the country was trying to celebrate the Duke's 90th birthday etc etc. Oddly enough, people were saying that B + E had turned out rather well 'considering', with one lady saying that it was down to the good early influence of their nannie Allison Wardley.

That is all the input I have, sorry!

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Old 06-20-2011, 06:22 PM
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Prince Andrew's new love? New York art dealer Judith Hess insists there's 'no romance' | Mail Online

There is an article in the DM about her.
Oh yes, the hat was very eyecatching.

Good gravy that explains the hat. Well the blonde in the DM article from ascot was better looking.
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“Well, she was just such a great lady, she was my best friend since I was 14.

Which is all rather odd, because Sarah and Diana went to two completely different schools and lived in two different parts of the country and had completely different sets of friends...........and I didn't really think they met until shortly before Diana's Marriage in July 1981, at a Polo Match, where I can remember seeing Sarah, very much with her 'eye to business' hone in on Diana.....

Why doesn't an interviewer ever challenge Sarah's recollections?

From what I remember, during the last few months of Diana's life, she had had no contact with Sarah at all; relations according to the papers came to a halt when Sarah apparently claimed that she had 'caught veruccas from Diana's shoes.....'

Sarah's school friends for the record included Lulu Blacker and Clare Steele - the latter is now the current Marchioness of Milford Haven. Sarah had no contact with Diana until well after they had both left school.....

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Oh, I think that was all part of the "show," with OWN footing the bill. If there is one thing that Sarah Ferguson excels in, it is spending money: especially money that isn't hers.
I don't doubt that OWN is footing the bill. It just does not look good given what she has been saying about her finanical situation. I don't know whose idea it was to film her trying on clothes & hats. That's a clear indication that the show does not have her best interest at heart. It reminds of those " the real housewives " reality shows here in the U.S. They show these women living this ultra fab lifestyle. Living in mansions, driving range rovers, spending tons of money shopping. Only to find out most of them are literally bankrupt.
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I have no knowledge of trust laws in the UK but IMO, someone needs to move in, if possible, and put some restrictions on the trust funds belonging to the girls and I'm guessing the only person who can do this is HM the Queen. Whoever may have power in this situation, whether Andrew or HM, they need to grow a spine and set some limits.

Under English Trust Law, all trusts are controlled by the Trustees who are named to manage the Trust when it is created. We don't know who the Trustees of B + E's Trust fund are, but I would expect there to be 3 or 4 and I would speculate they might include Andrew plus a Solicitor and possibly Sir Michael Peat, [Courtier who in effect was the Queen's financial manager]'.

In theory these people could demand Sarah return the 'trust property', i.e. the money she admits 'sponging' on from her daughters' trust. In practice, I expect the Trustees won't bother chasing Sarah for the money because she won't have any hope of repaying it...

Oddly enough, the tax man might take a different view - in fact, at one point, The Times took the view that the HM Customs and Revenue [the UK version of the IRS] were probably enquiring into the 'access cash', especially as rumours [and I do stress these were rumours] were that Sarah had already sold access to Andrew before the sting, which the Fake Sheikh apparently set up because he had received information that Sarah was already 'selling' Access to Andrew....

Please note that what I have repeated is speculaton on the part of The Times.

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According to reports (either DM or Telegraph) she is a long time friend (according to her) and has said they are only friends, and she works in an art gallery. In any event, Sarah knows that as soon as Andrew is in a serious relationship she is going to be sent packing.

As to her "friend" needing money ... Sarah is "the friend" IMO. I don't hate Sarah but I am really vastly tired of her. She seems to have a sense of entitlement based on what others have, whether it is the Polo/racing set or her former sister in law. The fact is, Sarah Ferguson NEVER had the drawing power of Diana, Princess of Wales.

I have no knowledge of trust laws in the UK but IMO, someone needs to move in, if possible, and put some restrictions on the trust funds belonging to the girls and I'm guessing the only person who can do this is HM the Queen. Whoever may have power in this situation, whether Andrew or HM, they need to grow a spine and set some limits.

ETA ... good grief ... re: Access Hollywood ... Sarah is NOT A FELLOW ROYAL AND HAS NOT BEEN FOR 20 YEARS. She really needs to get over herself. This current nonsense calling her a "star" is just pulling her in deeper and deeper, IMO.

Oh I agree with you. She knows if he meets someone she is outta there. It's almost like she is playing a game of beat the clock trying to get him to remarry her before he meets someone else.
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My guess therefore is that the Queen will insist that something is done; next year is the Diamond Jubilee and I suspect that the BRF won't be happy if further antics from Sarah errupt [she will be running short of money by then, presumably, especially if she is already telling people that she is still teetering on the verge of bankruptcy...]

At the end of the day, perhaps a solution is for the Queen (yet again) to put her hands in her pocket and come up with a monthly allowance payable to a financial manager for Sarah [perhaps by lodging capital in some form of Trust] and finding some form of 'grace of favour' house for Sarah in Windsor [as the Queen has now done from the once-disgraced Marina Ogilvy] in return (say) for Sarah agreeing to drop the 'duchess' title [slightly OT but did you see the extract in which Sarah gives someone a business card with 'The Duchess of York' on it, despite not having had the power to use this title for nearly 20 years] and refraining from any business activity or meeting [fake sheikhs included] without vetting by BP or Sarah's new Trustee...]

All this might sound hard on poor Sarah, but at the end of the day I think that it is most in her interests if she was controlled......

As usual I will end by saying that I don't mean to offend anyone, least of all Sarah's supporters, as the foregoing is only my opinion

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PS - read the comments on the OWN site [which I can read, even if I can't see the video], from which it seems that the respondents all feel very supportive of the apparently abused Sarah......strange; is this view representative? I had thought from what I read here that many were fed up with Sarah's current outpourings............
I think, even if the royal family was willing to provide Sarah with periodic funding, she'd still find a way to get into trouble. Sarah doesn't want to live a quietly affluent life - she could have had that after the divorce. She seems to want to live the life of a rock star's wife, and a rock star who's much richer than she's ever been, at that.

I think the comments on the website are biased, probably because they've been edited, as someone else already said, but also because Sarah hits all the hot buttons for Oprah's core audience. Abuse, being a "people pleaser", emotional damage after a divorce, financial troubles.... All she needs to do now is talk about her weight and/ or how she was bullied in school and she'll be set.
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We've been watching Shania Twain's series on OWN and it was simliar to Sarah's in the way that Shania was also on a journey to rediscover herself after everything she's been through. She's also lost her voice along the way and had realized the two were connected.

Here's the big, as in the space between the walls of the Grand Canyon big, difference between the two shows though. Shania not only knew she needed help, *but*, was also willing to do whatever was needed and also do the hard work needed to get to the root of everything.

Sarah OTOH...Not so much. She wants that quick fix so she can go off on her merry way and, as night follows day, act just as she has all these years until the next scandal happens. Which *will* happen. I think we all know that sadly. The only thing Sarah wanted out of all of this is attention and she's getting it. The truly sad thing is it's the wrong kind of attention for her, the Family and the Royal Family in general.

Oh and can I just add to the growing chorus here about Suzie's comments on leaving Royal Lodge where she was going on and on about Sarah being Royal. This really bugs me, so forgvie the upcoming shriek...

SHE'S NOT A ROYAL ANYMORE!!!!

She's divorced for crying out loud. The only connection she has w/the RF is w/her daughters and ex husband/doormat and that's *it*!!

Sorry, but that ticks me off to no end.

Can't remember who said it, but I've never thought of Sarah seeing Diana come out in public w/her eating disorder as perhaps Sarah seeing that and going "Ah HA!!" and thinking that's the way to go to get sympathy and attention. The only difference being is that after Diana admitted that, that was that. She never used it in the public after those admissions IIRC. Whereas Sarah to this day is still going on and on about this thing that happened and that thing that happened and "Oh woe is me...My Man left me to go out w/the Navy after our Wedding!!!!"

Oh, you mean just like every other Serving Member in the Armed Forces in any Country? Did she *seriously* not see that coming? Really?

I really and truly wish she'd never done this thing, as she's not coming across well, good luck to her trying to get anyone to take her on after this and it's also hurting her Daughters.

What a mess!! :o(
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I have to say that the whole 'helping a friend' business just does not ring true, and I am sorry to say this because I don't want to seem to Sarah-Bash. Helping a friend is a laudable thing to do, so why go behind your own staff's back - if you were genuinely wishing to help a friend, would it not have been better to have called your staff together and say 'XYZ wants to go to uni but can't afford it - can we help?' In which case the staff members should say to Sarah 'No, we can't help'.


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On one of her recent TV appearances, don't recall which one, Sarah stated she needed the money to pay back a friend she borrowed money from.
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Oh and can I just add to the growing chorus here about Suzie's comments on leaving Royal Lodge where she was going on and on about Sarah being Royal. This really bugs me, so forgvie the upcoming shriek...

SHE'S NOT A ROYAL ANYMORE!!!!

She's divorced for crying out loud. The only connection she has w/the RF is w/her daughters and ex husband/doormat and that's *it*!
I truly believe this is where the style "Sarah, Duchess of York" has been a big advantage for Sarah over the years. SHE knows as well as those of us here on the forums that this style denotes a divorced wife of a Duke but the majority of the American public would see this as her still being a full fledged Duchess of York of the UK... titled and styled as such also with all the rank and privileges of a Royal. There's been a few times where I've seen her on TV or in interviews where she is called "The Duchess of York" and she just soaked it right in. Diana, on the other hand, would correct people when anyone addressed her as "Princess Diana".

Without Andrew and her girls, I really believe that Sarah would lose a lot of who she thinks she is and have some real problems. When I was raising my children I can remember reading somewhere where it was stated "A parent's job is to become unnecessary to the child" and that stuck with me. She's increasingly seems to be becoming more and more attached to both Andrew and the princesses and sooner or later they are all going to realize that this is seriously hindering their own lifestyles. Its been remarked somewhere in the forums here that perhaps Diana would have been "the mother-in-law from hell" but it'll be nothing compared to the iron umbilical cord that Sarah will have attached to her daughter's lives and families unless something drastic happens.

Andrew is totally a horse of a different color. He's never spoken out on what he thinks or feels and we really don't know what his feelings are for Sarah. He may be choosing not to remarry because of his beliefs (CoE and divorce), he may see Sarah as a "third child" and hence be there for her when she needs him like a father would or maybe he really does want to retain the relationship they had when they married before royal duties and protocol and scandals and outside things threw the proverbial cold water on falling in love.
The picture Sarah is painting in abstracts is that she and Andrew still very much have a closeness that no one or no thing will ever be able to come between. I think the only thing that would force Andrew to address this issue is Sarah coming out and blatantly stating they share the same bedroom. Once again I think this was shown by the remark Sarah herself made "We're divorced TO each other not divorced FROM each other". Powerful statement if you ask me.

Its not unusual for anyone to reach their 40s or 50s and have an identity crisis. I've been down that road myself. We look at our lives and wonder who the heck we really are. In the 60s, young people took off to "find themselves". We want to be something other than "Joe's wife" or "Jane's mother" or "the Cookie Lady down the street". When we do find the answers, we realize that they have come from within and we can easily be Joe's wife and Jane's mother and bake a LOT of cookies happily or even make major changes. Its all about finding that best friend in the mirror.
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Once he does seriously get involved with someone romantically, even if it didn't lead to marriage, it would send a signal to Sarah that she needs to move on with her life.
Andrew was pretty serious with Amanda Staveley, if we can believe the papers at the time--I remember reading rumours of an upcoming engagement. But Sarah didn't move on then...actually, she moved right back in a few years later!

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It doesn't surprise me that any mention of the "Cash for Access" or the little fact about Epstien's financial aid are going to subjects that will get Sarah's hackles up because she knows deep down that there's no one to blame for these actions except herself. Or perhaps dealing with those subjects are just too much "Sarah" and not the "Brand Sarah" that the multitudes of followers she's imagining can identify with. Emotional problems that can be blamed on external things (bad marriage, bad parenting, or environmental) make one a victim which Sarah is portraying herself to be. Things like greed are character shortcomings and for the most part stem from self-absorption which is really the issues that need to be addressed IMHO and is clearly shown in the clip of Sarah out shopping for things that any sane person would realize is not a necessity and totally contradicts the help she is supposedly getting from these therapists. A parallel would be filming someone drastically needing to lose weight and going on a "journey" to better health such as a health farm, digging into the roots of why the overeating exists and setting goals etc and then filming the person going on a spree to McDonalds, Burger King, KFC and then retiring for the night with Ben and Jerry. The clear message being sent out then is "hey folks... this show is really a joke.. do not attempt this at home.".

I've really a sinking feeling that this is but a step downwards for Sarah on the destruction spiral and that she's headed for even more of a breakdown but its been well known that a person has to seriously hit their own rock bottom and realize it before they can start the uphill climb.
I completely agree. If Sarah owned up to her problems and the program showed her taking steps to fix them, that would be one story. But from what I can gather, Sarah just keeps steering the conversation back to her emotional issues and her past, and everyone lets her. Maybe someone who has watched Finding Sarah can
tell me...Suze Orman is a financial advisor: what kind of financial advice did she give Sarah (if any)? How did Sarah respond to it?

It seems to me that the cash for access scandal stemmed from Sarah's (severe) tendency to live beyond her means, and that should be addressed on the show. If the program is showing Sarah shopping for shoes and hats, when we know she has no money, how are we supposed to take any of the show seriously?

I agree with Osipi...I don't think Sarah has hit rock bottom yet, but if she keeps going, she will hit it sooner later. I didn't like sound of Finding Sarah and thought that Oprah would get more out of it than Sarah would; but the show seems to be turning out worse than I thought. I'm not sure Sarah has taken any constructive insights from the show at all, and it doesn't look like a launching point for any future inspirational speaking career. Sarah is basically painting herself as a victim and a child who can't take care of herself...and who would employ a person like that?

Actually, I wonder if Sarah is deliberately doing this. I just don't get the sense, from her behaviour, that she wants to rebuild her career. The subliminal message seems to be that she's found the world outside the royal family too hard, and if they won't let her back in, she'll continue to live with Andrew indefinitely...
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I have no knowledge of trust laws in the UK but IMO, someone needs to move in, if possible, and put some restrictions on the trust funds belonging to the girls and I'm guessing the only person who can do this is HM the Queen. Whoever may have power in this situation, whether Andrew or HM, they need to grow a spine and set some limits.

Perhaps it's too late for that?
Beatrice and Eugenie are of age, so it's possible there are no restrictions on their trust funds.
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Perhaps it's too late for that?
Beatrice and Eugenie are of age, so it's possible there are no restrictions on their trust funds.
Being "of age" sometimes has no bearings on trust funds. There have been stories for ages of different stipulations set to be met before the trust fund is handed over free and clear. From personal experience, my children had to be 30 to have complete control of theirs and I believe there was a set age also for William and Harry's trust fund from their mother.

I would think that with the divorce settlement type of trust funds set up for Beatrice and Eugenie, there would be stipulations. We will never know as those details will never be made public and shouldn't be.
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