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Old 07-26-2011, 11:53 PM
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I did want Sarah to pull herself up and out and move on with her life.
However, seeing her cash in on her daughters HRH status by putting them on Oprah really chaps my hide. IMO, Andrew needs to step away. The girls cannot, she's their mother, however this behavior from a 50+ year old woman who KNOWS better really, IMO, cannot be condoned.
I agree. I wonder if Andrew ever saw this footage? If so, he should be furious--or at least the Queen should. Not that either of them have time to watch an Oprah show, but Sarah is dragging her daughters down with her now.

Is this/she why they are not going to be working royals? The whole thing is so very sad.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:58 PM
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I don't believe Sarah will change unless or until she is forced. How that could be accomplished is way beyond my immagination. Believe me going on Oprah wasn't even a good attempt. Any real work will have to be in private because it will require hard work. I think Oprah was just trying to make money. It is just my opinion, but I don't think much of Oprah. I quit watching her long ago because she had to dramatize everything. That is just an old woman's opinion.
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:51 AM
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Sarah is absolutley dispicable

I hope that Andrew and The Queen hear about this footage, watch it, and take some serious measures. Beatrice and Eugenie have been outright abused, and I hope noone believes that Beatrice's tears were ones of joy, or that the phone call was genuine. This is putrid, and if it doesn't have some serious consequences for Sarah, then I am officially a Republican
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Sarah is absolutley dispicable
I hope that Andrew and The Queen hear about this footage, watch it, and take some serious measures. Beatrice and Eugenie have been outright abused, and I hope noone believes that Beatrice's tears were ones of joy, or that the phone call was genuine. This is putrid, and if it doesn't have some serious consequences for Sarah, then I am officially a Republican
Neither the Queen or Andrew have ever done anything about her, even after the cash scandal, so I think they will end up doing nothing and leaving the princesses to fend for themselves.

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The harm this woman is doing to her children is massive. She's using them for emotional support in a way that's completely detrimental to their wellbeing. To have a Mother who is so unstable and needy, unpredictable and childish, out of control and selfish does untold harm to children. They NEVER feel safe or secure. That coupled with the pressure of 'looking after Mum' from a young age, makes kids HAVE to grow up terribly fast, and they lose that part of childhood that's so important in everyone's emotional growth. Without it they'll always feel hollow and lost. That plus the guilt that kids always feel when they see a parent 'drowning' is something that will affect every relationship they ever have. I hope Sarah makes enough money for her daughters' therapy, cos they'll need it. I always hear her declare ''I'm a good Mum''. Well Sarah, you could scarcely be a worse Mother than you are. You're sucking them into your vortex of desperation and robbing them of their youth. SHAME ON YOU.
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:20 AM
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I have to agree I think this is showing the real Sarah and it isn't a pretty sight. The girls look so distraught in this show and I doubt the Queen can ignore what is being written. She may not see the footage but she will read about it. The girls are old enough to know something isn't right. Maybe in the future it will be them who cause Sarah to actually change I think it will be the only way. The girls both seem to be in long term relationships so they have some support I do hope that Sarah isn't allowed to interfere in their relationships and her want of money and exposure could cause them all problems. I have noticed that Sarah always seems to go to events with Beatrice which surprises me as she has a long term partner who should be going with her not her mother. Sarah should let the girls have there time in the sun and not show up with them to places I doubt she was invited. It actually looks sad her standing there holding the girls hands they are too old to have mum hanging around the way she does. Sarah can't live without the attention but she does nothing to actually deserve any. When she does it is usually something bad and will continue to be. I would be surprised if Oprah offers her anymore work after this. People seem to be becoming more aware she isn't anywhere near the Royal Family and hasn't been for a long time. The stories and pictures she shows are all old there is nothing new another reason I think she wants to get back with Andrew. I think Oprah thought she was getting more but Sarah oversold herself again!
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I personally think that Oprah wants to sink her claws into the princesses and gain a more substantial royal connection through them.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:06 AM
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I personally think that Oprah wants to sink her claws into the princesses and gain a more substantial royal connection through them.
Maybe. Oprah is a media mogul. But these are Sarah's children and it is her responsibility to protect them. She reminds me of young girls who get pregnant on purpose as teens. They usually have rough childhoods and have a baby because 'the baby will love me' and. 'The baby will never leave me'.

Sarah is 50 not 15. It's time to put the big girl panties on and grow up. Stop blaming everyone from your mother to the queen for your poor life c hoices. And stop using your girls for media attention, financial support, and emotional help.

Sorry for going off but as a mother of two-I'm disgusted. A mother would have yelled at the camera to shut off not record a voice over that she is a lioness.


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Old 07-27-2011, 09:19 AM
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In Sara's case, being out of the royal familiy, I think she feels that any publicity, even bad, is better than none at all. I really feel Andrew should have stepped in long ago to address this matter. She maybe the mother of his children but it is definitely time to stop shifting blame. I do feel for Beatrice and Eugene. This type of publicity will soon start to have serious negative effects in their lives.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:23 AM
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Sorry for going off but as a mother of two-I'm digusted. A mother would have yelled at the camera to shut off not record a voice over that she is a lioness.
She's no mother, she just gave birth. They aren't her daughters, they're just meal tickets to her so she can get VIP invitations. She was dragging them to such places when they were barely teens.

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Yeah, well, she's failing miserably and put frankly I am disgusted that HM is being so diffident about the fact that the girls are being used and exploited.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:27 AM
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I agree. I wonder if Andrew ever saw this footage? If so, he should be furious--or at least the Queen should. Not that either of them have time to watch an Oprah show, but Sarah is dragging her daughters down with her now.

Is this/she why they are not going to be working royals? The whole thing is so very sad.
IIRC, Oprah had lunch with Andrew and "the girls" earlier this year, before the first episode of this aired. She might have been letting them know what the content would be.

You are 100% correct; Andrew should be steaming about this. Maybe he's realizing this and rather than having fought to stay in his role as UK Trade Ambassador, agreed to step aside. Even he must realize how desperately Sarah is compromising both the present and the future of the Royal Yorks. It's the tail wagging the dog, IMO!
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:43 AM
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IIRC, Oprah had lunch with Andrew and "the girls" earlier this year, before the first episode of this aired. She might have been letting them know what the content would be.

You are 100% correct; Andrew should be steaming about this. Maybe he's realizing this and rather than having fought to stay in his role as UK Trade Ambassador, agreed to step aside. Even he must realize how desperately Sarah is compromising both the present and the future of the Royal Yorks. It's the tail wagging the dog, IMO!
I fear for the future of the York princesses. They won't be working royals and must fend for themselves with a mom like Sarah in their way. I wonder if the fact that they aren't working royals *is* what the RF has "done" about this. If so, it is not enough.

Andrew needs to step up to the plate and draw some boundaries around his daughters whether Sarah likes it or not.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:29 PM
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i absolutely, postively knew that doing this program on oprah's network, or any network, was a bad idea. as soon as i heard them mention it, it screamed of oprah taking advantage of a situation. the best thing for sarah is to remove herself from the spotlight and get her life back on track quietly and remain a private figure out of the media. i like her but i'm so disappointed that she so blinded by the opportunity to be in the news.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:06 PM
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i absolutely, postively knew that doing this program on oprah's network, or any network, was a bad idea. as soon as i heard them mention it, it screamed of oprah taking advantage of a situation. the best thing for sarah is to remove herself from the spotlight and get her life back on track quietly and remain a private figure out of the media. i like her but i'm so disappointed that she so blinded by the opportunity to be in the news.
Yes. She needs real therapy, which, as someone said, takes place away from the camera!

I wonder if there will be fall out for Oprah after this...?
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:22 PM
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Yes. She needs real therapy, which, as someone said, takes place away from the camera!

I wonder if there will be fall out for Oprah after this...?
I'm beginning to feel that Oprah is no better than anyone else in taking advantage of Sarah, and filming the princesses for the show - let alone filming them upset and crying - proves it.

If Sarah really wanted back in the royal family, Oprah has done her no favours!. A "friend" would have saved her from herself. Sarah is ultimately responsible for her problems, but people like Oprah are capitalizing on it.
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I think Oprah is going to end up looking stupid with a failed network on her hands.

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I fear for the future of the York princesses. They won't be working royals and must fend for themselves with a mom like Sarah in their way.

I am so glad you see what a huge obstacle to a solid life that Sarah is. SHe is preventing them from living stable, normal lives and is constantly dragging them into her projects, appearing with them at THEIR duties/public appearances, and she is horning in on possibly their relationships as well (asking boyfriends for money). Fergie will be in the way all the time, constantly creating issues or ending up almost sabotaging the romantic and professional life of her daughters.

What is wrong with the Queen that she isn't stepping in? This isn't diffidence, but neglect.

Sarah's next step will probably be something blatantly illegal, with the cash scandal being borderline illegal.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:27 PM
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Yes. She needs real therapy, which, as someone said, takes place away from the camera!

I wonder if there will be fall out for Oprah after this...?
I really doubt that anything negative could hurt Oprah in any shape or form as the woman is very much self sufficient. Its totally the opposite with Sarah. Sarah needs to come to the realization that fame by association is not hers to own. What Sarah is basing her "fame" and "public figure" on is her time in the royal family which has for sure reached its expiration date long ago, her daughters whom she seems to want to "sell access" to (via her program) as much as she sold access to her ex husband and the latest, being buddy buddy with Oprah.

Other than her Children in Crisis and her lukewarm success in publishing, what else does Sarah really have to stand on to make her a public figure that is worthwhile?
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:39 PM
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When I first heard about "Finding Sarah", I also thought that it was a terrible idea. But I reasoned that Sarah would be going up against the likes of Dr. Phil, Suze Orman and Oprah and she would end up saying and revealing things that she did not want to. But I was wrong. Sarah played it brilliantly and she only talked about what she wanted to talk about and only admitted what she wanted to admit. Somehow, that is worse.

She is very clearly in control and able to manipulate things and people, including her own family.
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I believe she will end up clutching at her ventures until it all slips away; then, she will completely self destruct. It's only a matter of time.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:46 PM
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Yes. She needs real therapy, which, as someone said, takes place away from the camera!

I wonder if there will be fall out for Oprah after this...?

Oprah in my humble opinion is not the issue here Sarah using her children for her own gain yet again & Andrew being spineless enough not to step in and stop it is really the main issues here. As the mother of 4 adult children I would still rather fall face down onto a live land mine before I make a public spectacile of any of my children's pain and even more so if I was the one who caused it. I think the girls were really thinking they were doing what would help their mother in the end but it just seems like they were hurt in the process. I agree with what someone said earlier after seeing the footage of both girls pain Andrew should have been enraged. To me Beatrice seemed disappointed & poor Eugenie just seemed hurt. I think Sarah has sunk to an all time low & I don't think I am alone in thinking that. Hopefully this will be the catalyst for all three of them to see Sarah in her true light & they will be able to move on in their own lives. just my thoughts.
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Hopefully this will be the catalyst for all three of them to see Sarah in her true light & they will be able to move on in their own lives. just my thoughts.
They won't until she is thrown out of Royal Lodge to live in some scummy apartment or the streets.
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