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Old 02-11-2008, 07:42 AM
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I always thought if they were going to remarry, thye'd have to wait till Phillip died.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:14 AM
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Unlike some people like ME who threw her ex-husbands wooden leg out the window, twice!
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Old 02-11-2008, 03:01 PM
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I find it hard to believe that Andrew is pining to be married to her again or that he's just marking time waiting for his father to drop off to do it. Most likely, IMO, they're just excellent friends who are happy enough to spend some time together with their daughters when the schedules allow it.
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Old 02-11-2008, 07:42 PM
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Actually I disagree that remarriange is out of the question.

The realisation that the marriage was headed for stormy weather came as Sarah walked up the aisle, and some dreadfully snobish commentator commented that her dress (which I actually liked) was designed and cut to mininize her rather large curves, and that her hair was a rather unfortunate colour, unlike the Princess of Wales! Just as Charles was steady and Andrew was more commonly known as Randy Andy, so Diana epitomised perfection and Fergy was the ugly frump!

I defy any normal woman, not size 00, to remain confident in herself and not descend into a torment of trying to "fit in". Good heavens, if she didn't make enough mistakes herself, her red hair always seemed to be the final inditement. Totally unfair and completely bazaar!

Question: When Andrew and Sarah separated they, unlike very many ordinary let alone celebrity couples, kept it not just civil, but publicly amicable. In those circumstances I believe it must have been a nightmare with the press hounding them for the dirt on each other. Yet every question asked either of them about the other always had the same answer, "he/she is my best friend!

Question: How could Sarah be so sensible of the horrors of a celebrity divorce and the public fallout for Beatrice and Eugeny (sorry about the spelling) and, with Andrew's active particpation manage to pull off one of the most discreet (and amicable) celebrity divorce's ever? Conversely, she managed to supply such incredibley indiscreet photo's to ensure that the public and paparazzi criteria for divorce was more than satisfied?

A perfect "dry run" for another divorce perhaps? with the added bonus of rendering herself utterly beyond the pale, and therefore a lot less newsworthy.

Question: What's with those romantic 'anniversary" dinner's they have been spotted at over the years? They seem to be more "happily divorced" than they were ever allowed to be "happily married".

As for speculation about Charles opinion and future actions, I think he knows that Andrew and Sarah fell on their swords for he and his wife. Further to that, Charles seems happier than ever before since his remarriage. Would he deny his brother the same chance?
The press didn't turn on her in the beginning. Sarah was seen as a breath of fresh air and initially the Royal Family liked her a lot; better than Diana. The initial reports I heard about Sarah was that she was more confident, more natural than Diana and that she fit right into the Royal Family.

However, Sarah first lost a good bit of her reputation on hers and Andrew's first trip to California. I still remember a gathering she spoke to in California where a man whistled and she called out to him, 'And I'll meet YOU right after the show' Buckingham Palace and the British press were horrified. That initial U.S. trip was a series of crimes against decorum and after that the press became merciless with her. At this point Sarah hadn't gotten into debt or had an affair and she still could have turned herself around with no lasting side effects but she didn't. She seemed to genuinely not understand what was expected of a royal.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:14 PM
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Ysbel, here's a question for you, since you make so much logical sense and I'm not being facetious here. . . do you think that the stalkerazzi wants their Princesses to be familiar, but not too familiar. They push the line all the time, but they WANT to have a "Do Not Cross" line and Sarah just didn't know where that was?
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:13 PM
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That's a good question, Russophile. Yes, I did think the press had a line that you didn't cross but I think it was different than the line the Royal Family had. And to make matters even more confusing, I think the Royal Family had a different line in private than they did in public.

The Royal Family all loved Sarah at the beginning and she was still her gangly, inelegant, ribald self. But I think their only dealings with Sarah up to that point were in private where a little ribaldry was welcome to offset the dreary protocol they had to follow in public. But even when they had their little fun, they expected to go back to their decorous ways in public. I think it was confusing for Sarah because she only had one persona whether she was in public or in private.

Sarah and Diana both flirted with the press and with other men. However Diana's flirting was coy and playful. Sarah's flirting seemed a little more brazen. Sally Bedows Smith who wrote a book on Diana said that most of the tabloid reporters were men and they were the kind of men who liked a little naughtiness in women as long as it held an air of innocence. Sarah didn't really have an air of innocence. She was a full blown, very sexual woman and so when she flirted, she had an edge that Diana didn't have. I daresay it made a lot of men feel that she was in the drivers seat and that was an uncomfortable sensation for them.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:47 PM
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I think that it was on one of the trips to Canada when she pretended to strangle Andrew at an official banquet. She was wearing a tiara and a "Tinkerbelle" pink evening dress at the time.

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The press didn't turn on her in the beginning. Sarah was seen as a breath of fresh air and initially the Royal Family liked her a lot; better than Diana. The initial reports I heard about Sarah was that she was more confident, more natural than Diana and that she fit right into the Royal Family.

However, Sarah first lost a good bit of her reputation on hers and Andrew's first trip to California. I still remember a gathering she spoke to in California where a man whistled and she called out to him, 'And I'll meet YOU right after the show' Buckingham Palace and the British press were horrified. That initial U.S. trip was a series of crimes against decorum and after that the press became merciless with her. At this point Sarah hadn't gotten into debt or had an affair and she still could have turned herself around with no lasting side effects but she didn't. She seemed to genuinely not understand what was expected of a royal.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:12 AM
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There were just so man inappropriate incidents I remember feeling embarassed for her. But I will say in her defense (amazingly) that I don't think she was ever coached on the proper protocol for someone in her position. That probably would have helped tons if she had been schooled in royal etiquette. And saved herself and BP some serious humiliation.
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Old 02-12-2008, 11:49 AM
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I always thought that she enjoyed the position of "royal rebel" until she really crashed and burned. She and Diana were ultimately a bad combination and encouraged behavior in one another that was ultimately very self destructive, not to mention the damage done to the RF.
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:31 PM
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So she never learned that there are some things that you just DONT say??
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:44 PM
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So she never learned that there are some things that you just DONT say??
Well . . . I know alot is common sense, but there were things she shouldn't have done being a member of the RF. I think another issue around this time was also that she accepted alot of gifts and "freebies" hence the nickname. But how would you know you shouldn't take everything given to you? I think she could have seriously benefited from some royal training.
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Old 02-12-2008, 04:03 PM
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I must be the only one who remembers reading about Sarah in a plane drunk with a bag over her head and her father making apologies that she was under a lot of stress. I think it was a flight from Florida to England. There were also reports of her bad behavior at house parties where she would fling butter off knives in different directions during dinner. I often wondered if her uncouth ways just got the best of her once she became a royal.
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Was that coming home from the trip to the US during which she knighted a dog during a private dinner party? I remember the plane story.

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I must be the only one who remembers reading about Sarah in a plane drunk with a bag over her head and her father making apologies that she was under a lot of stress. I think it was a flight from Florida to England. There were also reports of her bad behavior at house parties where she would fling butter off knives in different directions during dinner. I often wondered if her uncouth ways just got the best of her once she became a royal.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:23 PM
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Was that coming home from the trip to the US during which she knighted a dog during a private dinner party? I remember the plane story.
OMG ~ I forgot about that. I remember the dog story! How embarassing. I also remember reading HM was not amused.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:59 PM
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The dog was probably confused as well. I don't suppose that anything quite like that had happened to him/her before.

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OMG ~ I forgot about that. I remember the dog story! How embarassing. I also remember reading HM was not amused.
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:14 PM
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That's just sad.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:55 AM
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As she bunks with Andrew she is in another PR problem:

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Duchess Fergie In Eco Flap

SARAH Ferguson, the Duchess of York, has allowed two Norwegian brothers to involve her in a tourist-resort development that threatens to destroy part of the unspoiled Brazilian coastline.... Protesters say the development will irrevocably disfigure one of the last undeveloped stretches of coastline, which is home to at least one endangered species, the hawksbill turtle.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:38 AM
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Sarah knighted a DOG? Seriously? I must have missed that one! I don't how--that is the sort of thing one remembers, do you know what I mean??
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Yes. She was at a party and demonstrated to the guests what an investiture's like--on a dog! At least, that's the story.
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How, um, interesting that Sarah would so enlighten the party-goers with such a display. I was unaware that she had ever had the opportunity to knight someone (other than the dog)---what a silly girl.
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