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Old 06-09-2011, 11:36 PM
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I, believe, Andrew loves her and she him. What they do to overcome the mess, who knows. They may always live on the fringes of one another. Also sad. As for Charles being a hypocrite, he is. He, financially, kept a mistress for many years, with lavish gifts, etc. There is plenty of money for what they want, if they like you.
I doubt he "kept" her. Gifts are one thing but Camilla wasn't ever financially dependent on Charles was she? That's a kept woman. On top of that Sarah Ferguson is not and never has been the woman on the side, she was front and center and has repeatedly made a spectacle of herself, whereas Camilla did not.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:25 AM
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Lets get back on topic...this thread isn't about the relationship and what Charles did or did not do for Camilla.

Its about Sarah, Andrew and The Royal Lodge.

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Old 06-10-2011, 10:38 AM
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are there any photos of the property where the Yorks are living?
Here's a couple I found through google:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...edy-needy.html

http://casino.thesun.co.uk/sol/homep...html?print=yes

You have to scroll down the articles a little to find the pictures...
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:06 AM
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One point about Sarah living at the Royal Lodge that I would like to make is this: it is actually a reasonably large property - there are around 30 bedrooms [not including staff accommodation]. I suspect that Andrew and Sarah could actually both live in that house without coming across each other. It's not like a 'normal' divorced couple trying to live in a 4 or 5 bedroom house.

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Old 06-12-2011, 09:53 AM
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One point about Sarah living at the Royal Lodge that I would like to make is this: it is actually a reasonably large property - there are around 30 bedrooms [not including staff accommodation]. I suspect that Andrew and Sarah could actually both live in that house without coming across each other. It's not like a 'normal' divorced couple trying to live in a 4 or 5 bedroom house.

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That's very true; however, Fergie must know she is damaging Andrew's status and reputation by continuing to live there, (as well as dragging him into her financial debacle).

Apparently, she doesn't care about that.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:58 AM
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Her living there isn't damaging Andrew's reputation. Her actions are doing that.

If Fergie didn't have constant scandals attached to her name and she lived a low key life but they shared a place, the only concern people would have would be In regards to Andrew's status as a single man. More than likely we would be talking about what a good relationship the two have as a divorced couple.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:51 AM
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One point about Sarah living at the Royal Lodge that I would like to make is this: it is actually a reasonably large property - there are around 30 bedrooms [not including staff accommodation]. I suspect that Andrew and Sarah could actually both live in that house without coming across each other. It's not like a 'normal' divorced couple trying to live in a 4 or 5 bedroom house.

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Agreed.

What every seems to dance around, however, is a crucial issue.

The certain set here at TRF believe that the couple are living together in the fullest sense. This would make Sarah a kept woman in every respect, a mistress.

Others are of the opinion that Sarah and Andrew maintain separate quarters and are merely jolly good friends and divorced co-parents, instead of friends with benefits. Which means Sarah is a kept woman in most every respect, a shade shy of mistress.

Whichever it is, I think that Sarah staying there is Andrew's business. I think it looks foolish on his part to be such a sap, but that's his lookout.

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Different topic: Paddy McNally. Yes, Sarah did everything to get Paddy to marry her, including going out of her way to prove her stepmum chops by getting close to his children. But Sarah didn't leave because Paddy didn't propose. The invitation came from Diana to Sarah while she was still with Paddy - and Paddy told her to go, meet some new men. He was finished with her but, like Andrew, wouldn't toss her out without a soft berth to land in. And being a princess was a pretty soft landing. Pity she couldn't perform the task, but McNally did right by her even if he didn't marry her.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:43 PM
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I just thought I'd clarify something regarding Andrew's ownership of Royal Lodge. It is NOT a grace and favor property, nor is it something that he could potentially lose at the discretion of Prince Charles or even The Queen.

The Daily Mail reported that Andrew is the outright owner of a 75 year leasehold over the property, with the freehold owned by the Crown Estate which benefited from the sale of the 75 year lease, therefore, he for all intents and purposes owns the property.
(Source: Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson: Greedy and needy | Mail Online)

Thus, Andrew providing a suite of rooms in Royal Lodge for Sarah is his prerogative and if the most recent Vanity Fair article about Andrew is to be believed, Andrew has made it clear to his family that Sarah is a non-negotiable part of his life. Now, that doesn't mean they're in love. Nor does it mean that they're not. What it does mean is that, so far as The Royal Family is concerned, she's here to stay. (Source: The Trouble with Andrew | Society | Vanity Fair)
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:38 AM
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Sarah and Andrew should get back together, remarry, and be done with it.
Yes, they should and I don't think it'll be too long before they do. I don't know why they ever divorced in the first place.

However, Andrew's long absences at sea and Sarah's inability to adapt her natural exuberance and high spirits into the decorum expected of royalty didn't help matters.
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Let's not forget Sarah's affair cause I'm sure that didn't help matters. They got divorced because she became a major laughing stock and the RF didn't want her and her exuberance around and at the time neither did Andrew. And then their was the debt....I don't actually think there was too much choice about divorce and at the time Sarah thought she could do better then Andrew. Do you really think she is wanted back in the Royal fold she killed her chances when she sold access to Andrew. Besides she doesn't seem so well liked by most of the family except Andrew. So not going to happen besides Andrew seems to have made it clear they are friends only. He dates others and so does Sarah well she used too. Could you imagine the press if it did happen? She thought she got bad press back then it would be so much worse now and that is something the Royal Family can't afford.
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Apparently Sarah's moved to LA.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_f...yal-55134.html
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L.A not where I thought she would move she seemed to have a lot of connections in NY. It's also a very expensive place to live so I hope she has some work lined up. I wonder if next years celebrations are part of the reason? Beatrice may pop in and see her she was in New Mexico the other day.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:38 PM
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I predict she will continue to attempt to ply her trade in "The Media." She wants more reality show, Dancing with the Stars, or a daytime talk show seat. She'll take what she can get (totally opinion, but it makes sense that she's in L.A.)
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:30 AM
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I just thought I'd clarify something regarding Andrew's ownership of Royal Lodge. It is NOT a grace and favor property, nor is it something that he could potentially lose at the discretion of Prince Charles or even The Queen.

The Daily Mail reported that Andrew is the outright owner of a 75 year leasehold over the property, with the freehold owned by the Crown Estate which benefited from the sale of the 75 year lease, therefore, he for all intents and purposes owns the property.
The Royal Lodge is still owned by the Crown Estate and cannot be disposed of by Andrew or the monarch. He holds a leasehold over the property, which reverts back to the Crown upon expiration.

The Queen paid for the lease and renovations out of her private purse on behalf of her son, so she certainly has the final say about who can and cannot reside there. Obviously, she has no objection to Sarah's living arrangements, which is likely for the sake of her granddaughters.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:33 AM
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I'm guessing that L.A. is probably cheaper than N.Y., the weather is definitely better and it is probably a better place to ply her trade in the media. New city, new beginning...I hope that it works out for her.
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:58 AM
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I'm guessing that L.A. is probably cheaper than N.Y., the weather is definitely better and it is probably a better place to ply her trade in the media. New city, new beginning...I hope that it works out for her.
Cheaper? Yes but it's like saying a 50 inch tv is cheaper than a 60 inch tv, unless she's got good (very good) work or is being put up by someone having a place isn't going to be possible.
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Well her saga just seems to go on I hope she makes it this time.
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:49 PM
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Please note that off topic posts that have nothing to do with Sarah staying at Royal Lodge have been deleted as off topic.
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The Royal Lodge is still owned by the Crown Estate and cannot be disposed of by Andrew or the monarch. He holds a leasehold over the property, which reverts back to the Crown upon expiration.

The Queen paid for the lease and renovations out of her private purse on behalf of her son, so she certainly has the final say about who can and cannot reside there. Obviously, she has no objection to Sarah's living arrangements, which is likely for the sake of her granddaughters.
My gosh Her Majesty has been quite tolerant of Sarah. IMO the best thing for her to do is leave the Royal Lodge and find her own place, either in LA or South America, grow up and strike out on her own.
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