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Old 04-08-2016, 11:30 PM
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This is interesting: I noticed that in the Sydney interview, Sarah says quite clearly that it's not true that she's moved out - she still lives at Royal Lodge. But only in February, her spokesman said she was applying for residency in Switzerland because that was where her permanent residence was, and she would only use Royal Lodge for 'family occasions.'

Sarah Ferguson applies for Swiss residency after moving to her £13m ski chalet - Telegraph

Which is true, I wonder?
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:45 PM
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17 million may sound like a lot, and it is, but not if you live the kind of lifestyle Diana and other royals/former royals did and do. 600,000 to pay for the running of her household as well, a year. Honestly how much of 17 million do you think would be left after 19 years of divorce? Diana would have had to find other sources of income. And there is no way she would have disappeared into the wood work and become a kindergarten teacher or something not requiring her royal connections.
Perhaps not, but Diana came from a wealthy family and her father and her mother would have left money. Possibly she had lawyers and business advisers for her investments as well. There's no way that Diana would have been reduced to flogging teas and drink machines etc on a US shopping channel.

Diana may have married again, perhaps to a wealthy man. However, even if she didn't, there is no way on this earth that her ex (a future King of England) her sons and the Queen herself wouldn't have (a) injected large sums of money to keep her afloat and (b) brought in financial comptrollers to make sure she kept to a very generous budget.

Andrew and possibly the Queen have helped Sarah out financially since the divorce and there is very little to show for it. However, as the ex of a younger son, she is and was in a very different position financially to a woman whose son will be a future king.
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Old 04-09-2016, 04:51 AM
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I also don't have a problem with her speaking well about her loved ones. If you're surrounded by a very loving and supportive family, you have every right to be proud and should be able to express your love for them. Nothing wrong with that at all. Her ex-husband do the same when he gets a chance, but I don't see anyone expressing a dislike of him speaking about his own family. Double standard though.
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Dman, I enjoy your posts and your kind heart, but alas I am far more cynical about Sarah than you
When was the last time Prince Andrew spoke about Sarah and what did he say? The answer is he does not say that she was 'the love of his life' every time he speaks, he does not say that his wedding day was the best day of his life 30 years later, he does not gush with over the top compliments about Sarah, in fact in the last several years he has said not one word about her. So to me it's not a double standard since no one else does what she does - it's name dropping and in her case it's done to sell her latest get rich quick product/scheme.
She may 'love' her family and her ex family but she has zero respect for them and she has no qualms about using them to grift for money (cash for Andrew access ring any bells?)
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This is interesting: I noticed that in the Sydney interview, Sarah says quite clearly that it's not true that she's moved out - she still lives at Royal Lodge. But only in February, her spokesman said she was applying for residency in Switzerland because that was where her permanent residence was, and she would only use Royal Lodge for 'family occasions.'
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The move to Switzerland/independence theme started when Sarah was launching her weight loss blender/juicer gizmo and being Sarah she expected she'd be an overnight success raking in millions from gullible Americans needing to lose weight just like her weight watchers money making glory days. I don't think her gizmos have been flying off the shelves and I don't know that the hair straightener has done any better - if they had why was she selling the Bently for so little to raise cash?
We'll see how the 'teas' do.
Trotting out the Andrew is the love of my life and we still live together statements wouldn't work when she was pictured everywhere with Manuel on her arm, but he's pretty much gone, so she's back to talking about Andrew.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:28 AM
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:59 AM
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Comparing Diana and Sarah is like comparing apples and oranges. Diana was the mother to a future monarch, Sarah is mother to two girls who are slipping further and further down the line of succession.
Even if Diana has got into struggles financially (which I doubt as she had the best people looking after her interests) she wouldn't have been allowed to get into a situation where she flogged tat on tv or did doggy deals for access to the royals.
Look at how different it was when two ladies got their divorces, Diana was permitted to continue acting as a sort of 'roving ambassador' for the country doing good charitable work. No such role was there for Sarah who jetted off to America and got paid millions of dollars being an ambassador for weigh watchers.
I'm not saying its right or fair but thats life.

I do wish in a way Sarah would move on and find some nice rich guy so she can lead a quieter life, unfortunately I suspect she would rather be in the limelight than out of it. Wasn't it once said she stated she would never marry as if she does she would loose her title (even though she isn't The Duchess of York she is Sarah, Duchess of York)
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Old 04-09-2016, 12:42 PM
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Dman, I enjoy your posts and your kind heart, but alas I am far more cynical about Sarah than you
When was the last time Prince Andrew spoke about Sarah and what did he say? The answer is he does not say that she was 'the love of his life' every time he speaks, he does not say that his wedding day was the best day of his life 30 years later, he does not gush with over the top compliments about Sarah, in fact in the last several years he has said not one word about her. So to me it's not a double standard since no one else does what she does - it's name dropping and in her case it's done to sell her latest get rich quick product/scheme.
She may 'love' her family and her ex family but she has zero respect for them and she has no qualms about using them to grift for money (cash for Andrew access ring any bells?)

The move to Switzerland/independence theme started when Sarah was launching her weight loss blender/juicer gizmo and being Sarah she expected she'd be an overnight success raking in millions from gullible Americans needing to lose weight just like her weight watchers money making glory days. I don't think her gizmos have been flying off the shelves and I don't know that the hair straightener has done any better - if they had why was she selling the Bently for so little to raise cash?
We'll see how the 'teas' do.
Trotting out the Andrew is the love of my life and we still live together statements wouldn't work when she was pictured everywhere with Manuel on her arm, but he's pretty much gone, so she's back to talking about Andrew.

Andrew do talk about Sarah, especially when he talks about how well and how proud he is of their daughters. He credits Sarah on well the girls are raised. He havent done a family interview in a while though. I think that's due to his recent scandals though. I think it was for his 50th Birthday when he went into detail about their relationship and Sarah's very close relationship with The Queen. I can't believe how many people on the forums and other parts of the net totally dismissed his sincere comments. It was a shame and sad, IMO.

For some odd reason, Sarah and her family are treated badly.

There's nothing wrong with her expressing her love and admiration for her family though. People should be happy that the York's have remained a close and loving family, despite the stuff they've been through.

No one is perfect and Lord knows Sarah has made her mistakes, but I just don't understand this great hate people have for Sarah. She has fallen, mainly due to her own faults, but she always get back up and carry on.

I don't make endless excuses for her mistakes, but I find it a shame her very innocent and sweet comments about her family are turned against her and is made to seem like she's the worst person since Donald Trump.
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:01 PM
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Old 04-09-2016, 01:30 PM
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Although in previous posts I have seemed to point out a lot of negatives about Sarah, Duchess of York, I have to admit that there is a lot about this woman that I do admire. Maybe she doesn't appear to have a lick of sense when it comes to finances and she's a "live for today" kind of person, perhaps the reason that I can see it so clearly in Sarah is that I can see that in myself. Being on a fixed income, I am allowed no where near a grocery store or I'd be hauling home too much stuff that looks so good rather than just what we really need. Sarah also has, over the years, shown herself to be open, caring and genuinely invested in those she loves and calls her friends. People do seem to really want to be around her. Not everyone can have "the happiest divorce on earth" too.

She's been down, she's made mistakes but she's also had the courage to get back up again and again and forge on ahead and try something different. She's was described as a "breath of fresh air" when she joined the BRF and I think we can still apply that idiom to Sarah today. Of course, when the wind blows, its not always a warm tropical breeze or a fresh, spring breeze but can also be a destructive gale that can sink ships.

Such is life.
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Old 04-09-2016, 02:04 PM
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Although in previous posts I have seemed to point out a lot of negatives about Sarah, Duchess of York, I have to admit that there is a lot about this woman that I do admire. Maybe she doesn't appear to have a lick of sense when it comes to finances and she's a "live for today" kind of person, perhaps the reason that I can see it so clearly in Sarah is that I can see that in myself. Being on a fixed income, I am allowed no where near a grocery store or I'd be hauling home too much stuff that looks so good rather than just what we really need. Sarah also has, over the years, shown herself to be open, caring and genuinely invested in those she loves and calls her friends. People do seem to really want to be around her. Not everyone can have "the happiest divorce on earth" too.

She's been down, she's made mistakes but she's also had the courage to get back up again and again and forge on ahead and try something different. She's was described as a "breath of fresh air" when she joined the BRF and I think we can still apply that idiom to Sarah today. Of course, when the wind blows, its not always a warm tropical breeze or a fresh, spring breeze but can also be a destructive gale that can sink ships.

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Old 04-09-2016, 02:30 PM
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In regards to Switzerland I got the impression when they bought the chalet there that it was to rent out thus making money or at least to recoup the costs, I think it was even said Bea and Eugenie were in on the deal with money from their trust fund. If Sarah were to move in wouldn't that mean that they just bought Sarah a place to live rather than an investment? The idea of Sarah moving to Switzerland full time never seemed right to me for that reason.

I like Sarah as a person but you can't deny that she's made more than her fair share of mistakes.
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Old 04-09-2016, 02:49 PM
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Somehow, I just can't picture Sarah being in one place for very long. She's like the butterfly she likes to wear so often and alway flitting off to one place or another and doing this or doing that. That would leave plenty of time for the chalet to be leased out.

I'm beginning to see that this chalet is a family investment for the years ahead. There'll be a time for both Andrew and Sarah to slow down and embrace the golden years and the money invested in the chalet guarantees a more substantial financial portfolio for their two daughters. If anything, I think this is perhaps the wisest investment that Sarah's made so far and with the family all involved, it stands more of a chance to remain a pretty stable investment and also a wonderful bolt hole for any of them to go to and get away from it all.
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Old 04-10-2016, 06:15 AM
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Old 04-10-2016, 10:35 AM
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Sarah continues to support various charities and carry out duties for them.
But, does she do it strictly to benefit the charities?

That is what I would like to know, because I have heard rumors that she receives remuneration for her efforts (buried under administrative costs).

I'd really love to know what the true story is.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:30 AM
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But, does she do it strictly to benefit the charities?

That is what I would like to know, because I have heard rumors that she receives remuneration for her efforts (buried under administrative costs).

I'd really love to know what the true story is.
Don't know anything about that. There are tons of rumors that's been spread about Sarah, but I do know for a fact that she's been involved with charities that's close to her heart for a long time now. She works hard in supporting them, despite her past mistakes and failures. Can't take that away from her.
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Don't know anything about that. There are tons of rumors that's been spread about Sarah, but I do know for a fact that she's been involved with charities that's close to her heart for a long time now. She works hard in supporting them, despite her past mistakes and failures. Can't take that away from her.
I can if she's pocketing heavy fees.

(I wouldn't put anything past her, she always seems so greedy, imo).
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I can if she's pocketing heavy fees.

(I wouldn't put anything past her, she always seems so greedy, imo).
I doubt it, but people are willing to believe bad things about her. I think her charity work is genuine. She's been doing this since her marriage and she hasn't stopped lending her support to others who need it. It's what royals and ex-royals do.

I know some famous people and politicians do speaking fees. If I was famous or a politician, I would be doing the same and so would many others.
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But, does she do it strictly to benefit the charities?

That is what I would like to know, because I have heard rumors that she receives remuneration for her efforts (buried under administrative costs).

I'd really love to know what the true story is.

This is what happens in most celeb charities % that really gets to those in need is very low. Massive administration costs


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It would be nice for Sarah to co-host on 'The View' again, she is so funny and full of energy.
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Perhaps not, but Diana came from a wealthy family and her father and her mother would have left money. Possibly she had lawyers and business advisers for her investments as well. There's no way that Diana would have been reduced to flogging teas and drink machines etc on a US shopping channel.

Diana may have married again, perhaps to a wealthy man. However, even if she didn't, there is no way on this earth that her ex (a future King of England) her sons and the Queen herself wouldn't have (a) injected large sums of money to keep her afloat and (b) brought in financial comptrollers to make sure she kept to a very generous budget.

Andrew and possibly the Queen have helped Sarah out financially since the divorce and there is very little to show for it. However, as the ex of a younger son, she is and was in a very different position financially to a woman whose son will be a future king.
Diana received her inheritance from her father's estate before she divorced.

No one know what Diana would have done had she lived or how the RF or the British public would have treated her.

In 2000, William turned 18.
In 2001, there were stories that they wanted remove all households in KP.
In 2002, QEQM dies and Harry turned 18.

It is wrong to assume that Diana would have been 'taken care' by the BRF or Charles after William and Harry turned 18.

She could well have been in the same boat as Sarah or worse. Beatrice and Eugenie were much younger than William and Harry when their parents divorced.

The Queen helping a 'lost' former daughter-in-law while her grandchildren were still minors is understandable.
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Well, we are never likely to know, are we, as Diana died at 36. However, I find it extremely hard to believe that her sons would not have helped her when they came of age, if she had got into financial difficulties, and we don't know that she would have as I believe she probably had financial advisers.

I am quite sure also that Charles has trust funds set up for his children. I know Earl Spencer died in 1992. Her mother, Mrs Shand Kydd however, lived on, and would probably have predeceased her daughter had it not been for that terrible accident.

Nor can I see the BRF, even if just for the sake of PR, of national prestige if nothing else, allowing the mother of a future sovereign of GB to go on US television shopping channels flogging teas and hair straightening wands. Anyway, she wouldn't have to. Diana was enormously popular in the US, regarded as a very glamorous and charismatic figure even after her divorce and she wouldnt have needed to do such things.

Of course the Queen helped her grandchildren Beatrice and Eugenie as far as their future financial welfare was concerned. I said so in my original post. (That didn't stop Fergie from reputedly raiding it later though.)
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