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Old 02-10-2016, 04:35 PM
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Isn't Sarah in the process of becoming a Swiss citizen? I'm sure I read that today. If she is going to live among her beloved mountains half the year and the US (for business ventures) the other half, maybe she doesn't need an expensive car. I'll see if I can find the report.

Here it is.

http://www.france24.com/en/20160210-...wiss-residency
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Old 02-10-2016, 04:58 PM
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Isn't Sarah in the process of becoming a Swiss citizen? I'm sure I read that today. If she is going to live among her beloved mountains half the year and the US (for business ventures) the other half, maybe she doesn't need an expensive car. I'll see if I can find the report.

Here it is.

http://www.france24.com/en/20160210-...wiss-residency

How easy or hard would that be to do ? Is it something that could happen or just small talk.


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Old 02-10-2016, 05:09 PM
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Isn't Sarah in the process of becoming a Swiss citizen? I'm sure I read that today. If she is going to live among her beloved mountains half the year and the US (for business ventures) the other half, maybe she doesn't need an expensive car. I'll see if I can find the report.

Here it is.

Flash - Britain's Duchess of York eyes Swiss residency - France 24
Swiss residency, not citizenship, there is a difference.

To become a Swiss citizen you'd have had to live there for 12 years, five of which have to be prior to applying. If you lived in Switzerland in your teen years the years count as double.

Sarah as a EU citizen can apply for the Swiss version of a green card. It would be the first of a very long process to being a citizen. If she is going under 'business' she would have to prove she has 50,000 income a year and spends majority of the year there.
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Another thought, would you say that the British royals are property wealthy but cash poor? (IMO, the Greek royal family would fall into this w/ the exception of CP Marie-Chantal) Would that be one of the reasons Sarah was considered "being always short on cash"?
Its relative I suppose. Diana reportedly received a lump sum divorce payment of £17.5 million. If the Queen can put her hands on this much money in a single go, I wouldn't call her cash poor
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Swiss residency, not citizenship, there is a difference.

To become a Swiss citizen you'd have had to live there for 12 years, five of which have to be prior to applying. If you lived in Switzerland in your teen years the years count as double.

Sarah as a EU citizen can apply for the Swiss version of a green card. It would be the first of a very long process to being a citizen. If she is going under 'business' she would have to prove she has 50,000 income a year and spends majority of the year there.

Thank you. So it sounds like it could be hard for her unless she has some friends that could perhaps help.


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Old 02-10-2016, 06:48 PM
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Its relative I suppose. Diana reportedly received a lump sum divorce payment of £17.5 million. If the Queen can put her hands on this much money in a single go, I wouldn't call her cash poor
Charles had to liquidate all of his assets to pay off Diana in the divorce settlement, according to The Telegraph.

The property, art, jewelry and assorted collections aren't necessarily available to sell for cash.

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Old 02-10-2016, 06:55 PM
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I think that Sarah's "short on cash" because she has expensive tastes and likes to give expensive presents. My opinion FWIW her problem isn't lack of income but poor wealth management. My general impression is of a woman who's kind but impractical.

Why do you perceive her as kind?
What kindness has she ever done for anyone?

My general impression is of a woman who is incredibly self-absorbed and only cares about herself.
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Thank you. So it sounds like it could be hard for her unless she has some friends that could perhaps help.


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Not really. Her and Andrew own a home there so it wouldn't cost a huge amount to live. And it wouldn't take much of her endorsements, and appearing on some shows and such likely to make the minimum amount. She may get royalties still on her books.
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Charles had to liquidate all of his assets to pay off Diana in the divorce settlement, according to The Telegraph.

The property, art, jewelry and assorted collections aren't necessarily available to sell for cash.

Diana 'took Charles to cleaners' in divorce, says his banker - Telegraph

Yes but I don't believe it for a minute. From the article -

"Princess Diana took every penny he had," Mr Bignell told the Telegraph last week. "I was told to liquidate everything, all his investments, so that he could give her the cash. He was very unhappy about that. That's when I stopped being his personal financial adviser because he had no personal wealth left. She took him to the cleaners."

If we are to believe this, Charles started over from nothing in 1996. If he was literally broke, William and Harry wouldn't have received the money on Diana's death. I doubt William and Harry would leave their father destitute. I'm always sceptical of former employees disclosing such private details
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I think Prince Charles had to come up with the cash for the divorce settlement. Since he didn't have those assets to rely upon, he utilized the Duchy of Cornwall to make an income.

So Charles selling his paintings and organic food is ok, but Sarah selling mixers/hair stylers is wrong? Is the only difference that the press likes to make Sarah look bad?
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:42 AM
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In Bedell Smith's biography of Diana she sets the divorce settlement out thus (in US dollars). Diana would receive a lump sum of $28 million, underwritten by the Queen, plus more than $600,000 a year to underwrite Diana's office. Charles would partly finance that expenditure with a loan, and his then $2.5 million annual income after taxes and expenses would finance the rest. Diana agreed to those terms, including other perks.
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:37 AM
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Not really. Her and Andrew own a home there so it wouldn't cost a huge amount to live. And it wouldn't take much of her endorsements, and appearing on some shows and such likely to make the minimum amount. She may get royalties still on her books.
They don't own it free and clear, they took out a hefty mortgage to finance the £13 million chalet purchase. If she's living there then there's no rental money coming in to help defray the mortgage/upkeep so presumably Sarah pays the mortgage and expenses from whatever money she gets from her blender & hair straightener tong sales.
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They don't own it free and clear, they took out a hefty mortgage to finance the £13 million chalet purchase. If she's living there then there's no rental money coming in to help defray the mortgage/upkeep so presumably Sarah pays the mortgage and expenses from whatever money she gets from her blender & hair straightener tong sales.
Considering he is half owner and I assume he and the girls will still use it, I highly doubt Andrew is going to make her foot the entire bill for the place.

Besides she makes more money then just those 2 sales. Her book that was turned into a television show still airs in some countries and she likely gets royalties from those. She also appears on talk shows and radio shows, and likely gets paid for some of the events she attends as well.
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If the Sarah is to find its way and its purpose in Switzerland then well done

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I suppose it's because of the way she used to connect with people when she made her charitable appearances. During her first couple of years as the Duchess of York, she was very popular due to her friendliness.

For any members who aren't able to remember what it was like when Sarah was new to the "Firm", this is a very revealing article written soon after she joined the Royal Family. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2013...n-relationship

It's fascinating to see this kind of article in retrospect.


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Why do you perceive her as kind?
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My general impression is of a woman who is incredibly self-absorbed and only cares about herself.
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Old 02-11-2016, 04:38 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ctivities.html

Sorry but I can't help but have a laugh about " positive energy "


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I suppose it's because of the way she used to connect with people when she made her charitable appearances. During her first couple of years as the Duchess of York, she was very popular due to her friendliness.

For any members who aren't able to remember what it was like when Sarah was new to the "Firm", this is a very revealing article written soon after she joined the Royal Family. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2013...n-relationship

It's fascinating to see this kind of article in retrospect.

Wow what a great find- absolutely fascinating in hind sight.

For what it's worth, I've also always thought of Sarah as good natured.


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Thanks for your comments. HRHHermione. Those were very glamorous, exciting days for those of us who were following the BRF. Things seemed to be going so well and they all seemed to be happy. Of course, the operative word here is "seemed". I admit, I still get a "warm and fuzzy" feeling when I look back at the pictures of the Waleses and Yorks during the '80s. I have a lot of nostalgia for those times and those young people. Of course, I know there's a total disconnect between what royal-watchers were seeing and what was going on behind closed doors. But still, it's nice to remember and step back into what seemed to be a more innocent age.
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I agree - I've always viewed Sarah as, generally, a good natured person.

Anyway - all the hullabaloo about Sarah applying for Swiss residency is silly. They bought the chalet more than a year ago, she spends the bulk of her time there, it doesn't mean we'll be seeing any less or any more of Sarah. I'm quite sure it'll be status quo in all but the legal sense. She will never give up her British citizenship.
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