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Old 11-24-2014, 06:34 PM
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Yes, I agree. This is one of those dresses that might look good on a model in her 20s but doesn't look so good on a middle-aged figure--no matter how recently-slimmer that figure is. Sarah can get it right. It's not impossible for her. However, she doesn't seem to be able to see herself and her clothes objectively.

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And the top, nude fabric, put her in a nice slim leather dress with cap sleeves, round or maybe a sweetheart neckline and just an inch above the keens, no fuss anywhere else and it would make her look slim and perfect.
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Old 11-25-2014, 12:51 AM
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Yes, I agree. This is one of those dresses that might look good on a model in her 20s but doesn't look so good on a middle-aged figure--no matter how recently-slimmer that figure is. Sarah can get it right. It's not impossible for her. However, she doesn't seem to be able to see herself and her clothes objectively.
I thought Sarah looked nice in the photo of the jewellery launch on the previous page, and in some other recent photos, now that she's lost weight. She looked very nice at the Scarborough Hospital Gala in Toronto in May. Sometimes she picks really 'creative' (er, strange) dresses, though, and this is one of them. I can't imagine who would look good in this dress or why a designer thought it was a good idea! I'm in my twenties, not heavy, and it wouldn't look good on me.

I'm also curious about whether people tell Sarah she looks good in these dresses.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:03 AM
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I thought Sarah looked nice in the photo of the jewellery launch on the previous page, and in some other recent photos, now that she's lost weight. She looked very nice at the Scarborough Hospital Gala in Toronto in May. Sometimes she picks really 'creative' (er, strange) dresses, though, and this is one of them. I can't imagine who would look good in this dress or why a designer thought it was a good idea! I'm in my twenties, not heavy, and it wouldn't look good on me.

I'm also curious about whether people tell Sarah she looks good in these dresses.
Even if they do, she's old enough to be able to see what she really looks like. I didn't like that leather and fabric dress at all. Someone with a body and presence like Angelina Jolie might be able to get away with it.

Even though Sarah's lost some weight, she's still the age she is and her body is not toned. She's got flabby bits and should be covering up those upper arms of hers. She rarely looks smart, and I don't think she's ever looked elegant. This skirt was a good length but the rest of the outfit didn't suit her at all. And look at her hair! She can never get everything looking right. It's just the way it is with her, and, though Beatrice has been looking quite nice lately, I think Sarah's lack of dress sense is hereditary.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:47 PM
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Sarah looks best in simple things that are well-cut but not tight. She can wear strong colour as well. She looks very good in suits, and perhaps this is something that can adapted for evening wear.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:09 PM
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Sarah looks best in simple things that are well-cut but not tight. She can wear strong colour as well. She looks very good in suits, and perhaps this is something that can adapted for evening wear.
She does look good in suits, but she usually wears them in one size too small and the skirts are usually too short. She needs to realise that you actually look slimmer if your clothes fit you and aren't pulling across your boobs or hips/thighs.

ETA And wouldn't it be good if I were to take my own advice on this point!
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:36 PM
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:16 AM
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Sarah has started a new commercial venture in the USA with Duchess Discoveries.



She's also successfully obtained a trademark for 'Duchess Tea by Sarah Ferguson'

Source: DUCHESS TEA BY SARAH FERGUSON Trademark Application of Sarah, The Duchess of York - Serial Number 86203295 :: Justia Trademarks
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:29 AM
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I reckon she's finally gone too far. I think it's very wrong of her to run a business under a name that so boldly implies she is a Duchess. Unless she's secretly remarried Andrew - and I admit to not being entirely sure that's not a possibility - she shouldn't use the word. Wonder what HM thinks? Philip must be apoplectic!

ETA Seems she has remarried Andrew but it's a morganatic marriage and she hasn't been given the HRH style. The Application cites her name as Sarah, The Duchess of York.

This could cause some problems for her.

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Old 12-03-2014, 12:36 AM
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I reckon she's finally gone too far. I think it's very wrong of her to run a business under a name that so boldly implies she is a Duchess. Unless she's secretly remarried Andrew - and I admit to not being entirely sure that's not a possibility - she shouldn't use the word. Wonder what HM thinks? Philip must be apoplectic!
I'm sure the family knows what's Sarah up to.

I always wish Sarah well in all her ventures but those commercials drive me nuts.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:38 AM
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I agree with you Roslyn.

Wonder if there could be any backlash in the use of an incorrect title. Looking at the trademark registration, it says Sarah, The Duchess of York. I thought she lost the "The" part when the divorce became final.

She's gone too far this time I fear.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:46 AM
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I agree with you Roslyn.

Wonder if there could be any backlash in the use of an incorrect title. Looking at the trademark registration, it says Sarah, The Duchess of York. I thought she lost the "The" part when the divorce became final.

She's gone too far this time I fear.
I think she can use "Sarah, The Duchess of York" legally. She can't use "HRH The Duchess of York" because she lost that title in her divorce.
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Old 12-03-2014, 12:54 AM
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Using "Sarah, The Duchess of York" isn't proper, but it's also not the end of the world. The correct and only way she can be styled is "Sarah, Duchess of York"...but according to Debretts, in conversation, you'd say "The Duchess of York" even though she's divorced:

Former Wife of Duke, Duke and Duchess, Titles, Forms Of Address | Debrett's

What I find interesting about the way she's marketing this venture is that she's referred to as "Sarah Ferguson, The Duchess"...but the "of York" is absolutely nowhere to be seen. I think it was an attempt to keep her style out of the equation, keep the "York" out of the business.

And I'm sure the family knows too, this has been in the works for at least a year. I say good luck to her, the tea is what interests me!
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Old 12-03-2014, 01:09 AM
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I like Sarah, but this sticks in my craw. She's blatantly capitalising on her former marriage. If she described herself on the trademark application as Sarah, The Duchess of York, or allowed herself to be so described, she did something very wrong, in my opinion.
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Old 12-03-2014, 02:03 AM
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I think she can use "Sarah, The Duchess of York" legally. She can't use "HRH The Duchess of York" because she lost that title in her divorce.
I always thought it was The Duchess of York while she was married to Andrew and then Sarah, Duchess of York as the courtesy title for divorced wife of a Duke. She wouldn't have the "The" part as if/when Andrew remarried, his wife would then be The Duchess of York.
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Old 12-03-2014, 02:57 AM
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Whether or not Sarah is HRH The Duchess of York or Sarah, Duchess of York or Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess matters not one iota for Americans.

I would also agree with the comment that the BRF (at least the Queen and Prince Philip) knew about this before it happened and not worrying about it.

At this point Sarah is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. She has to earn a living, she has no intention of getting a regular gig (9 to 5) as its not going to pay enough to keep her in the standard of living that she likes and in the past she has made her money off her brief assocation with the Family. So its nothing new to them. And I would think they are happier she is pursuing her business endeavors in the US than in Britain or Australia.

A majority of Americans might recognize her face and know that she is famous for something but will not put that much thought in her title or the correct way she should be addressed.
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Old 12-03-2014, 05:47 AM
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I will never understand the mindset about the BRF. Edward, Sophie and Sarah have all been accused of using their royal connections to aid their careers. In the case of the Wessex's they finally just gave up the effort to have a job or career because the bitter slating was just too much to cope with.

Now Sarah, who posters have continually accused of exploiting her connection to the BRF and of sponging off both Andrew and her daughters, and saying she should get a job . . . did. And what do you know, accusations of using her royal connections. Talk about a lose, lose situation.

"Duchess Tea" by Sarah Ferguson sounds okay to me. Sounds a bit like Earl Grey and Lady Grey tea to me. No harm, no foul.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:12 AM
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I just found it to be unusual that she would list her title as Sarah, The Duchess of York on an official application for a patent.

I do wish her well in her endeavors but I do feel that, like with the Farm children's venture, the tea will not make a big dent in the American market. Actually, looking at the ingredients she has listed on the patent application, made me think I could head over to adagio.com and create the same blends as most of her choices are also available there and most likely for much cheaper. I do love my teas but would not probably buy into the Duchess brand.

She definitely gets some brownie points with me for attempting this. What is the worse that can happen?
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Maybe I'm biased since I like Sarah (I just like her, no reason why) but I wish her all the best! Even for her career...
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:01 AM
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There is [for the millionth time] NO such thing as Morganatic marriage in British law.

IF she has remarried the Duke, she is the HRH Duchess of York,

if not she can only use 'Sarah, Duchess of York'.

Either way, when I hear she's launching a new [commercial] venture, my blood runs cold...
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Old 12-03-2014, 01:22 PM
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Maybe I'm biased since I like Sarah (I just like her, no reason why) but I wish her all the best! Even for her career...
I, also, wish her well.
It's nice to see her looking energised, well and happy.
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