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Old 05-30-2013, 04:27 PM
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So your analogy applies to all spares in all monarchies yes? They're all useless? Or is it just the BRF?
If this is the case a monarchy should be made up of the monarch, heir and next heir yes? Because every other member is 'useless'. LOL!
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:33 PM
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Actually I do think that all spares are useless nowadays. The spares were of some use when an heir could be killed in a war or died of natural causes at an early age, and people thought that the all members of a royal family brought some value. These days have been long gone. Belgium has already stated that the only person, who is going to get a government stipend (allowance), is Crown Prince/Princess. Other children of a monarch are advised to pursue careers in a private field.
As for Prince Andrew, all his attempts to rehabilitate his image will be useless.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:37 PM
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...Prince Andrew was just a spare. Now he is just a useless member of the British royal family, who carries some engagements on behalf of the British royal family...
Actually with the exception of HMQ, that is what all the members of the BRF do. And "some" engagements is in fact a significant number - in excess of 500 I think.
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It you read the royal central article (link in post#474 by me) it says that the costs are met privately.
True and to be honest my point about howmuch it cost was really more along thelines of,,,,it is worth it whoever pays for it? Personally Ijust don't see the point in him having his own website, most the things on there are similar or the same as on the main Royal Family website. If he wants to upload more pictures/comments (and Ihave to say the Royal FAmily could do with putting some more imaginative, different pictures online ratherthan the same old ones they put on) maybe he could speak to the people working on the main website rather than making his own. Personally I feel it appears as if he is trying to "big himself up" and look more important than Anne and Edward.
But thats just what I think...
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:42 PM
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The Royal website is a bit of a mish-mash really - its about the Queen and ceremonials and some royal engagements (top line only and some selected pictures)

There is nothing about what individual BRF members actually do - especially the stuff we don't see that doesn't appear in the court circular. What we see in the media is not all there is going on.

Andrew is taking a risk but he obviously thinks it's worth it.

The BRF need to rethink their on-line strategy, IMO.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:46 PM
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Actually with the exception of HMQ, that is what all the members of the BRF do. And "some" engagements is in fact a significant number - in excess of 500 I think.
As stated earlier, the public at large has formed the unfavourable opinions about Prince Andrew and his usefulness. His hard work does not change much.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:59 PM
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Andrew does the third most engagements of anyone in the royal family - with only his older siblings doing more.

There has never been any suggestion that he, or his siblings, will be not doing royal duties into their old age.

He served his country in the navy for over 20 years and fought in a war.

Harry will have to leave the army, probably after less than 20 years simply to take up the slack of dying and aging royals but that doesn't include a royal in his early-mid 50s but rather those in their 70s and 80s and even late 60s.
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A good PR campaign can do wonders. Mark Bolland did a great job with rehabing Camilla & Charles in the publics mind, and lets face it Borat, and the governments subsequent PR campaign, certainly made your country much more well known around the world
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As stated earlier, the public at large has formed the unfavourable opinions about Prince Andrew and his usefulness. His hard work does not change much.
This tells us that you have not developed the ability to re-evaluate information. So sorry to hear that because life is forever changing, sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:39 PM
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It is your right to believe that a good PR campaign can sway the public opinion. It definitively works in USA, the country where money rules supreme. Both educated and uneducated plebeians in the western democracies and monarchies tend to be gullible.
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I wonder are we reading too much into Andrew's new website by suggesting it's some sort of PR masterplan to improve his public image and reputation. When his trade envoy role ended his old website became outdated. All he has done now is update it, and made it current again.
I think most of us will recognise some of his choice of family pics, and possibly commented on them at some point. It's interesting to now know they must be some of his favourites.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:45 PM
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Actually I do think that all spares are useless nowadays.
And what about the rest of a royal family, they are all clearly useless as well?
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It is your right to believe that a good PR campaign can sway the public opinion. It definitively works in USA, the country where money rules supreme. Both educated and uneducated plebeians in the western democracies and monarchies tend to be gullible.
And of course people in the east never change their opinions about anything or anyone and are so pure that they are above being influenced by money or advertising. Who knew your country was such a paradise on earth? Maybe Borat was wrong,lol? Maybe it is time to join the human race, along with us other mere mortals? You might even find you enjoy being a pleb in a democracy.
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:07 PM
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The Royal website is a bit of a mish-mash really - its about the Queen and ceremonials and some royal engagements (top line only and some selected pictures)

There is nothing about what individual BRF members actually do - especially the stuff we don't see that doesn't appear in the court circular. What we see in the media is not all there is going on.
That isn't specifically true. You can search about all the members of the RF, and if you select them and read about them. It also gives a "day in the life of" for most of the family members. It does of course specific more on the "famous" members, but that is the way it's going to always be.
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I don't think the spare or the other Royals are useless. They all do things for the country and they help the Monarch. Ask a lot of charities and they will tell you how usefull having a Royal Patron and a visit from any member of the Royal Family helps them. Andrew needed a new website of course part of it is PR the royal family has PR people like every other big organisation. With all the stuff thrown at them they at times really need it.
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Prince Andrew decides not to get heavy at Highland Games; competitions roll on today - Entertainment - Times Colonist

A bit about Prince Andrew's trip to Victoria
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On June 6 the Duke of York officially opened the new railway terminal at the Port of Felixstowe.



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Duke of York launches Wayra Enternships startup careers fair:
Business Matters: Duke of York launches Wayra Enternships startup careers fair

Prince Andrew inaugurates EAGE 2013 in London with “Changing Frontiers” as the conference theme:
Prince Andrew inaugurates EAGE 2013 in London with
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On June 10th the Duke of York as Patron of the Royal Free Hospital and Royal Free Charity opened the UCL Institute for Immunity and Transplantation at the Royal Free Hospital in Hampstead, London.



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