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11-07-2016, 03:58 PM
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I hope Andrew is dating Demi. He could go to the states and stay there. Horrid man
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11-18-2016, 12:23 PM
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12-11-2016, 03:37 AM
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Where is the outrage over Andrew being criticized for using the helicopter? When the Cambridges are the targets, people whine and call it a vendetta and petty, and claim they face criticism for doing the same thing other royaks do. But when Andrew is criticized, no one cares. Proof again that all the royaks get heat for the helicopter, not just the young ones
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12-11-2016, 03:45 AM
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I think this story is lifted from the Sunday Express, which I read.
Prince Andrew's 45-minute helicopter journey costs taxpayers £3,000 | Royal | News | Daily Express
This is so pathetic. It's the usual part-truth storyline that doesn't give all the information which would result in a balanced article.
All the BRF use the helicopters as we know - but as DoY has just had a go at the media, then the media will have a go back. School ground stuff.
The Express article also has a go about overseas travel. Very misleading. DoY scheduled overseas travel amounted to 12 days. Another 4 were added when he took over a trip when Princess Royal was ill. Here's the list of #days
PoW 20
Camilla 17
William 22
Catherine 18
Harry 34
Duke of Y 12 + 4 (Anne's)
PR 35
Edward 30
Sophie 14
DGlos 6
DsG 5
DK 4
Alexandra 4
No o/seas travel for HMQ or DoE.
This is days of official engagements. It doesn't include, for example, Harry's stay in Africa.
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12-11-2016, 07:40 AM
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Where is the outrage over Andrew being criticized for using the helicopter? When the Cambridges are the targets, people whine and call it a vendetta and petty, and claim they face criticism for doing the same thing other royaks do. But when Andrew is criticized, no one cares. Proof again that all the royaks get heat for the helicopter, not just the young ones 
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The press can criticise anyone it wants but if it's a story about the Cambridges using the helicopter we'd already be at 50 comments from people here at TRF expressing their 'outrage'. With Andrew there are three posts.
Which goes to show it's people wanting to have a go at W&K rather than concern about using a helicopter for an official event.
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12-11-2016, 09:15 AM
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Prince Andrew, Duke of York Current Events 7: February 2015
We have seen this same helicopter outrage article before. Charles, William, Kate were the previous subjects of helicopter abuse and now it's Andrew.
The helicopters are leased so they are paid for from the Sovereign grant if they are used or they sit there. The £3000 cost is if you went in from the street and rented a helicopter for a day. But that's not the situation here
All the royals use the helicopter including Anne and beloved Harry.
The Queen and Philip's train trip to Sandringham is basically the Hogwarts Express journey from Harry Potter. Those wizard kids could have just taken a portkey or floo to Hogwarts but let's make them all go to London and then take a 1/2 day train ride.
The Queen and Philip are in a first class cabin with no regular people in it. So that's more than 2 senior tickets. They don't have their luggage or Corgis with them. So that means the dogs and luggage are going to Sandringham via road plus all the staff that has to go to Sandringham for the 3 months that the Queen is there for. So moving the Queen to Sandringham isn't just the cost a of train ticket.
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12-11-2016, 09:39 AM
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The Sovereign Grant Act also allows the Royal Household to determine it's own priorities. If the Queen thinks she needs two helicopters for travel, she leases two helicopters (which she does btw)
I could see people getting worked up if the helicopter was being used to take the royals to McDonalds for breakfast. But when the story is member of the royal family takes official helicopter to official royal event, it makes no sense, at least to me.
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12-11-2016, 10:00 AM
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I think too that if the royal bird is to get off the ground, its the Queen's "OK" that gives it the go ahead to lift off. Would anyone dare to really cross the Queen's assent in the execution of official duties?
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12-12-2016, 01:55 AM
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That was my understanding too, Osipi. The Queen approves each and every use of the helicopter. So if she thinks the use is warranted......who is anyone to complain?
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12-12-2016, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cepe
I think this story is lifted from the Sunday Express, which I read.
Prince Andrew's 45-minute helicopter journey costs taxpayers £3,000 | Royal | News | Daily Express
This is so pathetic. It's the usual part-truth storyline that doesn't give all the information which would result in a balanced article.
All the BRF use the helicopters as we know - but as DoY has just had a go at the media, then the media will have a go back. School ground stuff.
The Express article also has a go about overseas travel. Very misleading. DoY scheduled overseas travel amounted to 12 days. Another 4 were added when he took over a trip when Princess Royal was ill. Here's the list of #days
PoW 20
Camilla 17
William 22
Catherine 18
Harry 34
Duke of Y 12 + 4 (Anne's)
PR 35
Edward 30
Sophie 14
DGlos 6
DsG 5
DK 4
Alexandra 4
No o/seas travel for HMQ or DoE.
This is days of official engagements. It doesn't include, for example, Harry's stay in Africa.
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Thank you for sharing the facts cepe. I appreciate the time and effort you put into compiling this information.
As you pointed out Andrew is now in the press' targets for voicing his objections to their articles about him and his family. These types of stories are likely to continue until the press finds another BRF member to be their "click bait."
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12-12-2016, 04:35 PM
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These are my thoughts exactly. I believe that the Queen is very conscious of costs.
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That was my understanding too, Osipi. The Queen approves each and every use of the helicopter. So if she thinks the use is warranted......who is anyone to complain?
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12-12-2016, 05:51 PM
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Yes indeed, permission is required from the Queen whenever the royal helicopter is required for use. This was shown in a documentary about the Queen a few years or so ago, when it was required by the Duke of Gloucester - the equerry explained the circumstances as to why the helicopter was required and she gave her approval for its use. It will surely have been he same for the Duke of York.
More details about royal transportation can be discussed here:
Royal Transportation (land, sea, air)
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12-16-2016, 04:50 AM
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On December 14 the Duke of York attended a Bahrain National Day reception at Lancaster House in London:
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On March 20 the Duke of York hosted a reception to mark the 5th anniversary of Advertising Week Europe at St. James's Palace.
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Students from Prince Andrew High are off to Buckingham Palace for a once-in-a-lifetime meeting with their school’s namesake next month.
Teacher John Stewart said that students will already visit London as part of a 10-day trip to France and Britain taking in Canada’s First and Second World War history, including a visit to Vimy Ridge on the battle’s 100th anniversary, as well as a trip to the D-Day landing grounds in Normandy.
Almost on a whim, Stewart and his fellow teacher Ron Stewart (no relation) wrote a letter and then fired off an email to Prince Andrew’s office in London. Their message to the prince was simple.
“We’re both going to be in London. Let’s do lunch,” said Stewart.
Their perseverance paid off. Prince Andrew’s staff wrote back saying the prince would be in London during their visit. The students were also invited to a tour of Buckingham Palace if they arrived early enough.
“After the Vimy ceremony itself, which is the purpose of the trip, this is the most exciting part,” said Stewart.
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The Duke of York was in Turkey for the annual Turkish-British Tatlidil Forum in Antalya on March 25. He met with various politicians, including Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan:
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