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Old 06-14-2011, 08:39 AM
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This will be my last post of this subject because it appears to have already been "beat" to death.

My final comments are as follows: To begin with, it must have been a slow day in the tabloid news. Do the "journalist" (I use that term rather loosely...I find the person who staged this to be a yellow belllied coward and one sorry low life human being) in the UK have nothing better to report on other than to see if they can "set up" someone in any way connected with the Royal Family? They knew Sarah was in financial trouble so they just decided that it was acceptable to kick a person while they are at their lowest? Karma is a b*t#h and she WILL come calling.

As far as those who claim that since Sarah grew up around the Royal Family that she should have KNOWN how to act, etc. This is a load of bull! Unless you live a certain lifestyle 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, there is no way possible for her to have known all the ins and outs! I worked closely with the President of a company for 20 years. Upon his retirement, I purchased the company from him and now, 5 years later I am still learning things about this business in which I had no previous knowledge.

I hope the reporter that did this at least lost his job.
O, heavens no, on all counts. 'Twas not we who claimed Sarah's long family history amongst the Royals and perfect knowledge of their habits and habitats, 'twas she.

As for Sarah being at her "lowest" when the cash for access was "staged," I think we've seen that there is not a lowest for Sarah. Sarah's own story regarding this situation (I was drunk! No, I wasn't!) changes a lot, so the only thing remaining is the videographic evidence which is pretty clear.

Was that her "lowest," last year, as you claim? Watching the little bit of the show that I did on Sunday, I'm not entirely sure. Has the story been "beaten" to death? Since Sarah keeps it alive, I think that's more her lookout.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:02 PM
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If any part of what Sarah says she has experienced is true she probably has been psychologically damaged, however, if none of it is true she definitely IS and it is not helping in any way when we push her further into the hole she is very successfully digging for herself. I am fast getting the feeling that this and every other thread which carries her name is turning into a witch hunt. I am reminded of groups that form in school playgrounds and how they pick on those who don't fit-worse still, mobs who gathered to bay for blood at places of execution. It seems to me that objectivity is becoming replaced by what feels like a personal vendetta and hate campaign which will change nothing- WE cannot alter Sarah, neither,I suspect, can those into whose hands she has placed herself because there are no institutions where we can incarcerate those whose personalities don't fit our view of "normal," were it so I suspect that there would be many more of us inhabiting institutions than living on the outside.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:37 PM
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Why is it a witch hunt when you voice the opinion that what Sarah does at the moment is wrong? Was her Cash for access-sale right? Is it right that her creditors got only part of their money but she continues to live a luxury life in the eyes of the media? Of courseit is her right to do whatever she likes on telly but as she continues to bring in her Royal connections, one has a right to say that it is not adequate behaviour in my opinion.

It's not as if somebdy said: oh I simply don't like her, she is ugly, vulgar and does not deserve that kind of life. No one says that or should be allowed to, but to point to her behaviour and to say that this is not acceptable for this or that reason is okay. IMHO.
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:57 PM
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If any part of what Sarah says she has experienced is true she probably has been psychologically damaged, however, if none of it is true she definitely IS and it is not helping in any way when we push her further into the hole she is very successfully digging for herself. I am fast getting the feeling that this and every other thread which carries her name is turning into a witch hunt. I am reminded of groups that form in school playgrounds and how they pick on those who don't fit-worse still, mobs who gathered to bay for blood at places of execution. It seems to me that objectivity is becoming replaced by what feels like a personal vendetta and hate campaign which will change nothing- WE cannot alter Sarah, neither,I suspect, can those into whose hands she has placed herself because there are no institutions where we can incarcerate those whose personalities don't fit our view of "normal," were it so I suspect that there would be many more of us inhabiting institutions than living on the outside.
I'm not out for blood, I just have a perverse fascination watching the train wreck get worse and worse with each incarnation of stories and tales.
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:26 PM
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If any part of what Sarah says she has experienced is true she probably has been psychologically damaged, however, if none of it is true she definitely IS and it is not helping in any way when we push her further into the hole she is very successfully digging for herself. I am fast getting the feeling that this and every other thread which carries her name is turning into a witch hunt. I am reminded of groups that form in school playgrounds and how they pick on those who don't fit-worse still, mobs who gathered to bay for blood at places of execution. It seems to me that objectivity is becoming replaced by what feels like a personal vendetta and hate campaign which will change nothing- WE cannot alter Sarah, neither,I suspect, can those into whose hands she has placed herself because there are no institutions where we can incarcerate those whose personalities don't fit our view of "normal," were it so I suspect that there would be many more of us inhabiting institutions than living on the outside.
If you read the threads carefully, you may note the numbers of persons who post here who have said - repeatedly - that they have historically been fans of Sarah's but are unable to stomach her behaviour - in particular, the moveable feast of changing stories that she is telling.

Are you suggesting that the only postings that should be here should be positive, wildly enthusiastic for her actions? There are certainly posters here who are Sarah's cheerleaders, and I certainly see them post each and every day, so perhaps it is that for some reason you are unable to see their posts. Use of the "ignore" feature is a possibility there.

I suggest that it is simply not possible for a tiny group of posters in a forum to, as you say, "push her further into the hole," although you state that somehow, "we" are doing just that. Yet shortly after, you say that "we cannot alter Sarah..." so I suppose the point you are trying to make here is, well, what is the point you are trying to make here... we have power over her or we don't have power over her, or..? I'm baffled.

This "hole" is Sarah's creation, and I'm certainly not going to take responsibility for her digging or pushing herself into it. You, of course, may wish to follow another course.
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Old 06-14-2011, 04:21 PM
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Sarah is doing very well by herself when it comes to getting into deep (sometimes very hot) water. I don't think that there is anyone who can help her either in or out of it, she is an adult and she is supposed to be in charge of her own destiny. She will never ever change of that I am sure. The breath of fresh air that was spoken of at the time of her marriage changed very quickly into a typhoon or perhaps a whirlwind would be a more apt description. Her life would have been so very different if she had stayed The Duchess of York and perhaps now she realises this and feels panicky and as she doesn't seem to be able to control her spending this has made her panic all the more.
She says she has the love and support of her ex husband, so she is very lucky in that but I wish she would leave him, now they are divorced, to make a new life for himself. I doubt that any woman would take him on with his ex wife leaning on him constantly for psychological and financial support.
As to the topic, I think her TV appearances are a catastrophe.
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I concur with almost everyone here who has "pronounced" on Sarah's life.

But none of us can ever know the reality of the situation.
That Sarah is a chatterbox is obvious, but not exactly a "crime".

I think the two are still "together" whatever that may mean.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:38 PM
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Her life would have been so very different if she had stayed The Duchess of York and perhaps now she realises this and feels panicky and as she doesn't seem to be able to control her spending this has made her panic all the more.
Rather a mid-life crisis, do you think?
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:02 PM
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Yes, Russophile that is exactly what I think. By the way, I love your avatar.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:25 PM
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While I'm not a Sarah fan, can't even truly say that I like her, but I do feel sorry for her. She must be a woman who lives with a lot of regrets. Once she was the beautiful bride that everyone loved...and she threw it all away.

It's very difficult to rise from the ashes when you are 51 years old with the spending habits that she has. I can't see her ever again being able to earn that kind of money. Something has got to give!
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:54 PM
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No matter what if a person does not have people to enable them in destructive behavior nothing will change. If A person always has the reassurance that they can go out into the world and make a big mess and their enablers are always there to fix things for them then why bother?. This latest venture of Sarah's seems like an attempted last second dunk shot from mid court before the final buzzer. I guess she is betting on the fact that Oprah has made a mega fortune in the U.S. and I quess she is hoping it will help her. Just my thoughts!
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:13 PM
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Oprah has made a bundle and there are a lot of people who love her ... however there are probably an equal or larger number who cannot stand her. Oprah came along at a very opportune time and took full advantage of it and that was very smart but she is much less impressive than she and some of her followers believe. If Sarah Ferguson thinks that she can, in any way, reach the same heights as Oprah then she is on some serious stuff.

My feelings have been neither pro or con Sarah until recently. It is the constant shifting of stories that is ridiculous. First her parents were abusive ... but wait it was misunderstood, they were really only upper class Brit parents doing what they do. Well IF that is the case THEN just why did she bring these issues up in the first place? She did it because she wanted to be seen as a victim and then that didn't work out the way she thought it would so then she switched stories. In a word, this woman cannot be believed in anything she says and it has actually (for me) colored my attitude toward her daughters whether that is fair or not. She needs to be cut loose and IMO, she is working these stories for all it's worth in the hopes that Andrew will marry her again and rescue her.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:32 PM
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she is working these stories for all it's worth in the hopes that Andrew will marry her again and rescue her.[/QUOTE]


THUD!!! Somebody get the DOE off the floor please!! LOL!.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:07 AM
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The maddening thing for me is that here is a woman that has had everything handed to her on a plate most of her life and has had other people bail her out and take care of her problems all this time. Sarah keeps on doing the same thing over again and we get the tears, the self hate, the Mummy hated me, every time. She'll be like this for the rest of her life, she won't change as long as Andrew is around to save her. That's what happened with Paddy McNally before Andrew. If something would happen to Andrew, she would freak out and then turn to her poor daughters and their trusts would be bled dry.
I think the whole "Mummy beat me", was added footage after it was revealed that Oprah wasn't happy with the production because it was "boring", so then the whole Mummy thing was added, I'll bet to make it more exciting.
The series was supposed to air in Jan. and it didn't. The story about Oprah came out and the series release was postponed. It wouldn't surprise me that this latest "revelation" was then added.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:54 PM
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She'll be like this for the rest of her life, she won't change as long as Andrew is around to save her. That's what happened with Paddy McNally before Andrew.

There's a thought! Rumor at the time said McNally was relieved to get rid of her; he thought she was clingy and had no intention of marrying her, so was pleased to hand her off to Andrew.

Maybe what the BRF should do is find her a husband?
Preferably a foreign one who is not able to spend much time in Britain?
Then the suggestion a previous poster made about Simon Cowell (give him a title to manage Fergie) could be used to placate the new husband!
An earldom in exchange for a wedding? It would be a terrific bargain!
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I still vote for The Convent! I think Vows of Poverty, Chastity, and Silence would do her some good. Plenty of time for reflection and self-assessment too.
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:10 AM
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I still vote for The Convent! I think Vows of Poverty, Chastity, and Silence would do her some good. Plenty of time for reflection and self-assessment too.
Well said, but a pipe dream I am afraid!
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There's a thought! Rumor at the time said McNally was relieved to get rid of her; he thought she was clingy and had no intention of marrying her, so was pleased to hand her off to Andrew.
From the other thread:

Different topic: Paddy McNally. Yes, Sarah did everything to get Paddy to marry her, including going out of her way to prove her stepmum chops by getting close to his children. But Sarah didn't leave because Paddy didn't propose. The invitation came from Diana to Sarah while she was still with Paddy - and Paddy told her to go, meet some new men. He was finished with her but, like Andrew, wouldn't toss her out without a soft berth to land in. And being a princess was a pretty soft landing. Pity she couldn't perform the task, but McNally did right by her even if he didn't marry her.

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Maybe what the BRF should do is find her a husband?
Preferably a foreign one who is not able to spend much time in Britain?
Then the suggestion a previous poster made about Simon Cowell (give him a title to manage Fergie) could be used to placate the new husband!
An earldom in exchange for a wedding? It would be a terrific bargain!
As the mother of Tim Jeffries, Koo Stark's groom, said at the time of the Stark-Jeffries marriage - "who would want such shop-worn goods?"
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I think Sarah has more options than she either realizes or cares to admit. True, she can't go out and get a 9-5 job like most people, but there are things she could do to earn an income, albeit maybe not one that would allow her to live the lifestyle she has become accustomed to. She could work for a museum (hasn't she an interest in history) or different media outlets (Jackie O, a former first lady and one of the most sought after/photographed women of her time, went to work in publishing).
But for Sarah to go out and get a job would mean she is taking control and responsibility for her life and her future, and I think that is where her issues lay. I think she likes to play the "victim" and I think she likes having someone take care of her. Alot of women fall into this trap, esp. if they are lacking in self-confidence.
She really need to do something, tho, imo. The poor pitiful me routine has gotten old. I think she's alot stronger than she lets on, she just needs to see it for herself.
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I think Sarah has more options than she either realizes or cares to admit. True, she can't go out and get a 9-5 job like most people, but there are things she could do to earn an income, albeit maybe not one that would allow her to live the lifestyle she has become accustomed to. She could work for a museum (hasn't she an interest in history) or different media outlets (Jackie O, a former first lady and one of the most sought after/photographed women of her time, went to work in publishing).

She has no training to work in a museum - Beatrice, with her 2.1 in History would probably have to do additional study to be even considered but she might be able to do so - Sarah - no way - she doesn't have a degree in History which would be the minimum requirement these days. Having an interest in History isn't enough to get jobs in museums - even having a degree wouldn't be enough - you would need to have one in museum studies/archaeology/science as well as some general history knowledge.

She is working for media outlets now - what do you think the who thing with Oprah is? Sarah has no skills that an employer would want - that is the issue. She left any real working life in 1986 and that will count against her.

She hasn't got the skills and thus is umemployable - add to the fact that she is over 50 - one of the hardest age groups for people who lose their jobs to get another job but she hasn't even had a job for 26 years so she would be way behind - no - getting any sort of normal job isn't an option.
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