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Old 12-29-2010, 07:39 PM
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You make it sound so simple - however writing books can be hit and miss. What is she supposed to write about??? How is she supposed to sell them - as she will need to do book selling tours etc.

She has no employable skills except her connections to the BRF.

She has two choices - sell herself or live on benefits. I think that would be far more embarrasing for the royal family - to have the mother of the Queen's granddaughters turning up asking for a council house and government handouts, going to charity shops to buy her clothes etc.
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I assume you read my links to the 1990s recession. In addtion there were recessions during the 1980s as well.

I find it strange that you, who don't know her, aren't prepared to forgive her for something that she hasn't done to you personally but those who know her best, and who have been directly hurt by her actions are prepared to forgive her.

I don't condone not paying people for work done but that is a different attitude to forgiveness.

It has been reported that she has almost cleared all her debts now - in about 9 months, sure with help but done.
Perhaps you didn't read that I neither forgive nor condone her because she is nothing but another celebrity to me. She has treated Andrew and the girls badly and any woman who treats her family thusly does not get my praise. Selling out the father of your children is wrong. It's not up to me to forgive her or anyone here posting. It's up to her to stop hurting her family by repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

Not since the 1920s has the world been in such dire financial straits. But the economy never had anything to do with Sarah's extreme extravagances. There is no link to a connection of any sort. It's simply undisciplined spending and the irresponsible use of employees time.
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:54 PM
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You make it sound so simple - however writing books can be hit and miss. What is she supposed to write about??? How is she supposed to sell them - as she will need to do book selling tours etc.

She has no employable skills except her connections to the BRF.
She made millions through her connection to Weight Watchers.
She also made plenty through those Budgie books.
I fail to see why she could not get some sort of job, here in the US if not in Britain.

What I don't like seeing her do is leech off Andrew and her daughters, and hint about writing some expose if and when she feels like it.
He has been tremendously supportive, and she threatens to blackmail him?
When will Sarah ever see fit to take some responsibility for herself?
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:59 PM
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Aren't we jumping the gun?

Where has it been written that Sarah is threatening to blackmail Andrew. Such a serious charge, I think would need legitimate proof of such a claim.

And a reliable source please that is not the Daily Mail if you please.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:12 PM
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Aren't we jumping the gun?

Where has it been written that Sarah is threatening to blackmail Andrew. Such a serious charge, I think would need legitimate proof of such a claim.

And a reliable source please that is not the Daily Mail if you please.

"Blackmail" was my term for the book she has talked about writing on her divorce.
Perhaps it's a harsh term, but it immediately came to my mind.
She's mentioned writing such a book on several occasions, but perhaps not seriously, who can say? So far she hasn't written it and perhaps doesn't really intend to.

(I read about this in an article in New York Magazine).
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:15 PM
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You say she has publicly mentioned writing such a book, when and where?

She has already written My Story, are you speaking of another book about her time with the BRF? As a tell all?
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You make it sound so simple - however writing books can be hit and miss. What is she supposed to write about??? How is she supposed to sell them - as she will need to do book selling tours etc.

She has no employable skills except her connections to the BRF.

She has two choices - sell herself or live on benefits. I think that would be far more embarrasing for the royal family - to have the mother of the Queen's granddaughters turning up asking for a council house and government handouts, going to charity shops to buy her clothes etc.
Well before her marriage she had some success in PR and in book editing. After her marriage she wrote several childrens books as well as biographies. Seems as if she could continue along that line, even doing book tours but sticking to the topic of the books and not commenting on the BRF. Seems as if she could make enough to support at least a modest lifestyle. The problem seems to be that Sarah does not want a modest lifestyle, she likes public attention and the "big life" that she cannot afford. Sarah needs to live like Sarah Ferguson and not like the Duchess of York.

If all else fails maybe she can find some rich American to marry her.

She has been selling herself for a long time, but please stop selling the BRF and her ex husband.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:26 PM
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Yes, thank you, Mirabel, I heard her speak of it on Larry King Live, something like ' it would be an inside look at our, the York, divorce and my experiences with the Firm.' Then again, I read some where that she had been encouraged to sign an agreement to never write a book about Andrew, her daughters and the House of Windsor. Don't know if she signed anything but she could get such a book printed in the United States and elsewhere even had she done so. So called royal exposes sell very well. Like the Kitty Kelley book, when Kitty was never an insider or married to a member of the family.
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She has already written My Story, are you speaking of another book about her time with the BRF? As a tell all?
That's right.
In New York Mag, she said she wants to write more books, and ought to write a book on the divorce (but to be fair, she may have been joking).

Then this was all rehashed on SuperSpy.com, but I honestly can't claim that as a reputable source.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:33 PM
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You make it sound so simple - however writing books can be hit and miss. What is she supposed to write about??? How is she supposed to sell them - as she will need to do book selling tours etc.
Well Bertie, it IS simple for Sarah. I just put in my browser: Books by Sarah Ferguson, and voila! A whole list popped up by the Duchess of York. SO yes, it WAS simple for her. And that avenue she can obviously still use to her advantage.
Amazon.com: Sarah Ferguson: Books

I count at least 19 titles.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:21 PM
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Perhaps you didn't read that I neither forgive nor condone her because she is nothing but another celebrity to me. She has treated Andrew and the girls badly and any woman who treats her family thusly does not get my praise. Selling out the father of your children is wrong. It's not up to me to forgive her or anyone here posting. It's up to her to stop hurting her family by repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

Not since the 1920s has the world been in such dire financial straits. But the economy never had anything to do with Sarah's extreme extravagances. There is no link to a connection of any sort. It's simply undisciplined spending and the irresponsible use of employees time.

I don't understand what she has done to you that you have to forgive her. If you are an employee who hasn't been paid - fair enough but otherwise I don't understand what she has done that requires your forgiveness.

I take the view that as her family have forgiven her then who are we, who weren't directly harmed by her, not to do the same.

Bad economic times do impact on the spending habits of people, particularly those with precarious forms of income - as in those times credit is harder to get and thus if people overspend their debts mount and they can't get out. It happens to millions of people during all economic downturns and Sarah has been caught twice - the 90s downturn and again this one.

Some of us survive with no real effect from them but others suffer badly every time and some it is hit or miss. Sarah has been hit with both of them.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:49 AM
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Well she's doing a documentary series for Oprah's new network that she was allegedly paid 500,000 pounds for.
Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson on OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network - Oprah.com
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:42 PM
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I don't understand what she has done to you that you have to forgive her.Bad economic times do impact on the spending habits of people, particularly those with precarious forms of income - as in those times credit is harder to get and thus if people overspend their debts mount and they can't get out. It happens to millions of people during all economic downturns and Sarah has been caught twice - the 90s downturn and again this one.

Some of us survive with no real effect from them but others suffer badly every time and some it is hit or miss. Sarah has been hit with both of them.
That's exactly what I said, you keep insisting that we on this forum need to forgive her when it's not to do with us at all and I don't honestly know where anyone gave the impression that SF was sorry, much less that she should be forgiven, Again, the world economic status had nothing to do with her continuing inroads into catastrophic debt.

Neither am I convinced that her family have forgiven her when instead of showing remorse, she has complained about not being able to take more lavish hols and in fact, though not paying staff, did travel to extravagant venues quite recently. That's what has resulted in this story with Miss Winfrey chiding her for not taking responsibility and wanting her to enter therapy. It's not about about making mistakes. It's about abusing resources and failing to meet commiments to others out of selfishness.
She spent the wages entitled to her employees on exotic trips etc.




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If I were British, I know I wouldn't be pleased about the RF having to bail out this woman yet again.
When all is said and done, they are funded by the taxpayers, and I'm surprised there isn't more outrage about her constantly grasping for more money.

I don't know that I'd go so far as to vilify her in the manner of Forbes mag., but I wouldn't just dismiss the whole thing either.
It's true the economy is not doing well, but when you read about Sarah spending four thousand pounds in a single day on hair accessories, all while she's millions in debt, then it is very hard to dredge up sympathy for her.
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Where did you read that Sarah spent 4K a month on hair accessories?
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Where did you read that Sarah spent 4K a month on hair accessories?

I read it in the May 30, 2010 ShowbizSpy.com.


And it wasn't 4K a month, it was 4K a day!
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I read it in the May 30, 2010 ShowbizSpy.com.


And it wasn't 4K a month, it was 4K a day!
I mean this in the nicest way, but you shouldn't believe every thing you read from Showbiz Spy. Especially since they are just basically repeating stories (i.e. not doing any type of background check) to see if ALL the stories are true.

Where on earth and why would Sarah spend 4K on hair accessories. It makes no sense.
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I mean this in the nicest way, but you shouldn't believe every thing you read from Showbiz Spy. Especially since they are just basically repeating stories (i.e. not doing any type of background check) to see if ALL the stories are true.

Where on earth and why would Sarah spend 4K on hair accessories. It makes no sense.

True, but somehow I have no trouble believing it about Sarah!
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True, but somehow I have no trouble believing it about Sarah!
It sounds as if you don't care for Sarah and that is certainly your right. But disliking someone doesn't mean that one should lose objectivity IMO. There are plenty of people that I don't particularly care for but I can acknolwedge when they do something right or have a talent. I don't believe everything negative about them.

Sarah has done some questionable things but I don't believe everything negative that is written about her in the papers.
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That's exactly what I said, you keep insisting that we on this forum need to forgive her when it's not to do with us at all and I don't honestly know where anyone gave the impression that SF was sorry, much less that she should be forgiven, Again, the world economic status had nothing to do with her continuing inroads into catastrophic debt.
I did see that we have to forgive her at all - as she hasn't done anything to us she doesn't need our forgiveness which is why I wonder why you think she needs our forgiveness (or at least yours)

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Neither am I convinced that her family have forgiven her when instead of showing remorse, she has complained about not being able to take more lavish hols and in fact, though not paying staff, did travel to extravagant venues quite recently. That's what has resulted in this story with Miss Winfrey chiding her for not taking responsibility and wanting her to enter therapy. It's not about about making mistakes. It's about abusing resources and failing to meet commiments to others out of selfishness.
So what would her family have to do to say that they have forgiven her - make a public statement - well joining her on holidays and having her live in the home are pretty clear statements to me that they have forgiven her - if Andrew hadn't surely he would have kicked her out of the house?

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She went on exotic trips although many of them have been paid for by others - of course she should have paid her staff - I am not condoning her actions but see no reason for any of us to forgive her as she hasn't harmed us.

I would have been best, in many ways, for her to go into bankruptcy - all her debts wiped out in one go - sure limits to future positions but she could live with that - but her debtors would get virtually nothing as she has no assets as such - not even the home she was promised when she divorced (I wonder if she was able to find a suitable home now whether that part of the divorce settlement would be honoured).
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