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Old 08-13-2010, 05:28 PM
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I ask myself: How long will people go on pillorying this woman?
We know she did some really stupid things, and I feel she has been listening for far too long and far too often to some apparently very bad advice.

I wouldn't blame Andrew for sticking with her. I just hope someone somewhere will cut her some slack - and her daughters!
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:42 PM
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There is a world of difference between "pillorying" and being held accountable. Sarah is being held accountable and it makes her and her devoted followers quite squirmy.
Perhaps the world will stop remarking on her idiotic behaviour when she stops acting like an idiot. There seems to be no end in sight, though.
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:20 PM
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Although I'm not one to indulge in conspiracy theories, per se, I am at least well-informed enough in the ways of the world to query these longstanding, unrelenting attacks on Sarah.
I don't entertain most conspiracy theories either, I just think that there is a campaign against the royal family and especially the Yorks. It's not a secret and if it is, then it's an open one. You only have to look at the way most of the headlines about the Yorks are slanted, and the way the media persistently digs up information about every aspect of their lives. I accept that Sarah is to blame for everything she's done, yet at the same time, there are so many people who make mistakes and do unethical things, and we don't find out about it. The media chooses what we know about, and what we don't. I don't even know how to describe how selective the media is sometimes. The casual reader of newspaper headlines thinks they're getting a balanced glimpse of what goes on in the world, but it isn't that way at all. Certain stories are given very little attention while others receive in-depth coverage. The media chooses what to report on.
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Surely, I'm not the only person, and in far-flung Australia at that, that's heard the growing rumours and quite nasty innuendoes about Prince Andrew's allegedly questionable personal friendships with recently-made Eastern European billionaires?
I also don't believe Andrew would ever willingly involve himself in anything corrupt. I do believe that he's just as capable as the next person of being deceived, or of being taken in by people who appear to be friends. And as for Sarah's morals: the one difference between Sarah and the other members of the royal family is, and always has been, that she gets caught.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:39 AM
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I don't entertain most conspiracy theories either, I just think that there is a campaign against the royal family and especially the Yorks. It's not a secret and if it is, then it's an open one. You only have to look at the way most of the headlines about the Yorks are slanted, and the way the media persistently digs up information about every aspect of their lives.
They're royalty. Through an accident of birth they are, in many ways, public property and as such their problems are much more juicy than a normal person's. Just like with celebs. It's not a campaign it's how things are for those in the public eye.
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:03 AM
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Someone who tries to deceive royalty or pretends to be their friends is found out one way or another. You probably don't hear about this very often as I'm sure that the royal that was wronged probably doesn't want it to be public especially if it involved a business transaction or money.

My uncle restored antique furniture. I don't know if he was in an antique shop or if this was a client of his but this person showed him a desk that supposedly was from the 18th century. My uncle who had restored furniture from that time period noticed that something about it wasn't right. He told this person that the furniture wasn't 18th century. To make a long story short, the owner of this furniture had been lied to and had spent thousands of dollars to buy this future. It was a very good imitation. The owner never reported this to police because he was embarassed that he'd been ripped off. The man who sold it to him was long gone.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:22 AM
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Umm, I don't know where this is going but we're meandering well off the track.
Could we please confine the discussion to the thread topic of "Options for Sarah" or, put another way, "Where to from here?"

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Old 08-14-2010, 10:26 PM
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Well, Warren, and not to overly flog it and as I've previously indicated, the best option for Sarah is for the Family to clear her debts and then moving to ensure that she can't incur any more unsubstantiated ones.

There is royal precedence for this course, as I've indicated.

No matter what I think of Sarah (and I don't dislike her at all) it's the best thing possible, in my opinion, to protect the Family. I believe that I've made it perfectly clear why I think that this is necessary.

Thanks to all for the debate.
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Old 08-14-2010, 11:01 PM
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Soooooo.......let me get this straight.

Sarah, who threw herself under whatever man was around even when pregnant, is the moral equivalent of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother....
I apologise for again entering this discussion, but wherever did I suggest any of this?

My goodness!


No, NotAPretender, you most certainly haven't 'got it straight'. Well, not from anything which I've contributed to the discussion.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:24 AM
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... the best option for Sarah is for the Family to clear her debts and then moving to ensure that she can't incur any more unsubstantiated ones.
There is royal precedence for this course, as I've indicated.
No matter what I think of Sarah (and I don't dislike her at all) it's the best thing possible, in my opinion, to protect the Family. I believe that I've made it perfectly clear why I think that this is necessary.
She's not a royal so there being royal precedence means nothing.
How would it protect the family? If she goes bankruptcy it means that she's had to deal with her problems like any normal person.
How exactly are they supposed to ensure she can't incur any more debts?
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:47 AM
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If order for her not to incur any more debts, Someone would have to be monitoring her spending.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:30 PM
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In defence of (the possibly drunk) Fergie

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In defence of (the possibly drunk) Fergie - Barbara Amiel - Macleans.ca
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:23 PM
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That was really funny.

I'm still looking for that ole super secret conspiracy and more ways that the Royal Queen Mother was like the un-royal Sarah Ferguson to shore up the argument that there is some kinda precedence for bailing out - how does this article describe her - the "tart-with-a-heart." Still not finding much.

Sarah's best bet for getting out of this mess? Same as I said before: 1. Get psychiatric help. 2. Place herself under personal and financial guardianship (a real financial advisor this time, please.)
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:04 PM
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Like your solutions NotAPretender and you had them in the right order. Because without the psychiatric help, I don't believe that she would ever agree to the guardianship.

I hope that PA or the BRF don't pay off all her debt. IMO that is just being an enabler.
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How Fergie plans to cash in on her disgrace | Mail Online

After three months of semi-dignified silence - apart from a grovelling appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show in America and eight foreign jaunts this summer - the Duchess has decided to catapult herself back into the limelight.

She knows this is risky because it could all come crashing down again if her financial advisers decide to put a stop to it all by recommending bankruptcy.

But for now, she is planning a series of interviews - each thought to be worth £75,000 - in which she will speak candidly about her self-inflicted humiliation when she was filmed shaking hands with the undercover reporter on a deal to accept half a million pounds for access to Andrew.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:22 PM
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A series of interviews? Surely it'd only require one.
This could turn out very bad. Trying to sell the story doesn't show that she's learned anything just continued to try to make money however she can.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:55 PM
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That woman has no shame
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:50 PM
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Well here we go again. .. .
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:10 AM
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What is there for Sarah to talk about except rehashing everything she's already stated?
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:09 AM
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The unfortunate thing is that, in today' world, there are so many outlets that someone will interview her and they will pay for it and it will get publicity. The mail can't stand the woman and yet they can't stop putting her face up.

It honestly comes down to, "No publicity is bad publicity." for Fergie. As long as her face is out there, she can keep milking something out of the world, there's a chance that something could happen to spring her forward. IT's her personality, she's addicted to attention, until the world stops looking, which it won't, even if it's only to slate her, she won't go away cause she can't deal with not being in the spotlight.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:06 PM
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What I don't get is why doesn't she think she DOESN'T look utterly pathetic when she does this sort of thing???
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