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Old 01-29-2018, 09:29 AM
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So his "real" given name is John Christopher Stamp, and he is just called Jack by his family? (Like President Kennedy).
No, his real name is Jack. But the article states he was named after his great-grandfather whose real name was John but was nicknamed Jack.

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Small correction, 1694, he died in 1756. He was the three times great grandfather of the 1st baron, who in return was Jack's great-grandfather. Mary likely named her son Stamp because he was his grandfather's (Richard Stamp) heir. Richard's brother was Lord mayor of London. It wasn't that uncommon to use a maiden name as a given name for your child, though more commonly as a middle name.
Actually Jack's great-grandfather was created a baronet not a baron. A baronet is a commoner, not a peer. Kind of like a hereditary knighthood.
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:45 AM
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Here's another American connection for Jack Brooksbank:

Cecil Calvert, 2nd Baltimore, Proprietor & founder of the colony of Maryland (1605-1675)
m. Anne Arundell (1615/6-1649) – Anne Arundel County in Maryland named for her
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Charles Calvert, 3rd Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1637-1715)
m. Jane Lowe (1644-1693/4)
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Benedict Calvert, 4th Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1679-1715)
m. Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1721), granddaughter of Charles I & Barbara Villiers
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Jane Calvert (1702-1778)
m. John Hyde
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Catherine Hyde (1745-1823)
m. Rev. Thomas Willing (d. 1789)
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Jane Caroline Willis (d. 1802)
m. Thomas Meyrick (1773-1837)
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Jane Sophia Meyrick (1801-1837)
m. St. John Chiverton Charlton (1799-1873)
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Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton), 1st Baronet (1837-1921)
m. Mary Rhoda Hill (1838-1924)
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Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet (1862-1932)
m. Mary Emma Baker Cresswell (1878-1970)
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Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972)
m. Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)
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Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006)
m. Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926)
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Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953)
m. George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949)
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:48 AM
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The Queen and Jack's maternal grandmother Joanna Newton (nee Holland) are almost exact contemporaries - Mrs. Newton was born 18 April 1926, just three days before the Queen.

Mrs. Newton is the grandmother who spoke to the press.
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Old 03-14-2018, 09:16 AM
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Apparently it was too early in the morning for me.

I made a two corrections.

Cecil Calvert, 2nd Baltimore, Proprietor & founder of the colony of Maryland (1605-1675)
m. Anne Arundell (1615/6-1649) – Anne Arundel County in Maryland named for her
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Charles Calvert, 3rd Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1637-1715)
m. Jane Lowe (1644-1693/4)
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Benedict Calvert, 4th Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1679-1715)
m. Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1721), granddaughter of Charles II & Barbara Villiers
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Jane Calvert (1702-1778)
m. John Hyde
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Catherine Hyde (1745-1823)
m. Rev. Thomas Willis (d. 1789)
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Jane Caroline Willis (d. 1802)
m. Thomas Meyrick (1773-1837)
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Jane Sophia Meyrick (1801-1837)
m. St. John Chiverton Charlton (1799-1873)
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Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton), 1st Baronet (1837-1921)
m. Mary Rhoda Hill (1838-1924)
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Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet (1862-1932)
m. Mary Emma Baker Cresswell (1878-1970)
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Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972)
m. Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)
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Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006)
m. Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926)
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Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953)
m. George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949)
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)
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Old 03-14-2018, 12:49 PM
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From Stamp to Brooksbank:

Richard Stamp (brother of Sir Thomas Stamp, Lord Mayor of London)
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Mary Stamp (d. 1727) - her father's heiress
m. Joseph Brooksbank (d. 1726)
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Stamp Brooksbank (1694-1756)
m. Elizabeth Thomson
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Joseph Brooksbank (1725-1759)
m. Elizabeth Bond (1727-1810)
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Benjamin Brooksbank (1757-1842)
m. Philippa Clitherow (d. 1849)
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Rev. Edward Hawke Brooksbank (1789-1883)
m. Hannah Heywood (1788-1846)
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Edward Brooksbank (1826-1916)
m. Lucy Mary York (1837-1893)
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Sir Edward Clitherow Brooksbank, 1st Baronet (1858-1943)
m. Katharine Christina Elizabeth Graham Lang (1862-1939)
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Lt.-Col. Edward York Brooksbank (1888-1935)
m. Hazel Lynall Thomas (1883-1968)
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Capt. Stamp Godfrey Brooksbank (1922-2017)
m. Celia Dorothy Coke (1919-1996)
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George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949)
m. Nicolas Joanna Newton (b. 1953)
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)

For more information about Stamp Brooksbank's Parliamentary career:
BROOKSBANK, Stamp (1694-1756), of Hackney House, Mdx., Clapton, Essex, and Healaugh Manor, Yorks. | History of Parliament Online

For more information about the Brooksbank family (including additional members named Stamp):
https://archive.org/stream/burkesgen...e/268/mode/2up
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:54 AM
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Mr T.G. Brooksbank and Miss A.L.E. Rodgers
The engagement is announced between Thomas, youngest son of Mr George E.H. Brooksbank and Mrs Nicola J. Brooksbank, of Battersea, London, and Amy, eldest daughter of Mr Timothy A.E. Rodgers and Mrs Susan M. Rodgers, of Taunton, Somerset.
Mr T.G. Brooksbank and Miss A.L.E. Rodgers - Engagements Announcements - Telegraph Announcements
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Old 05-12-2018, 09:27 AM
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Oh, how lovely!
Maybe Jack inspired Thomas to pop the question?
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:51 PM
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Tom Brooksbank

Wonder if the Brooksbank brothers will serve as Best Man for one another, as William and Harry did?
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:57 PM
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It's lovely when brothers do that duty for each other and I hope it happens in this case.
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:41 AM
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I believe Jack and Sarah are third cousins if I am not mistaken. Eugenie would be his third cousin once removed then.
Jack and Sarah's mother are third cousins, which makes Jack and Eugenie third cousins twice removed.

Their closest ancestor was Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham who died in 1909.


Here is the closest line to Jack:

Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham, lived from 1822-1909
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Hon. John Spencer Coke, born in 1880
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Celia Dorothy Coke, lived from 1919-1996
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George Edward Hugh Brooksbank, born in 1946
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank, born in 1986


Here is the closest line to Eugenie:

Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham, lived from 1822-1909
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Lady Julia Coke, lived from 1844-1936
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Mervyn Richard Wingfield, 8th Viscount Powerscourt, lived from 1880-1947
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Hon. Doreen Julia Wingfield, lived from 1904-1991
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Susan Mary Wright, lived from 1937-1998
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Sarah, Duchess of York, born in 1959
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Princess Eugenie Victoria Helena of York, born in 1990
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:33 AM
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank, born in 1996
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Princess Eugenie Victoria Helena of York, born in 1990
Was Jack perhaps born in 1986 rather than 1996?
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Old 10-07-2018, 03:56 PM
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Was Jack perhaps born in 1986 rather than 1996?
No

Typo.
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Old 10-07-2018, 04:19 PM
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Jack and Sarah's mother are third cousins, which makes Jack and Eugenie third cousins twice removed.

Their closest ancestor was Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham who died in 1909.


Here is the closest line to Jack:

Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham, lived from 1822-1909
I
Hon. John Spencer Coke, born in 1880
I
Celia Dorothy Coke, lived from 1919-1996
I
George Edward Hugh Brooksbank, born in 1946
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank, born in 1986


Here is the closest line to Eugenie:

Thomas William Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham, lived from 1822-1909
I
Lady Julia Coke, lived from 1844-1936
I
Mervyn Richard Wingfield, 8th Viscount Powerscourt, lived from 1880-1947
I
Hon. Doreen Julia Wingfield, lived from 1904-1991
I
Susan Mary Wright, lived from 1937-1998
I
Sarah, Duchess of York, born in 1959
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Princess Eugenie Victoria Helena of York, born in 1990
Wow, that's quite an age gap between Lady Julia Coke and her brother Hon. John Spencer Coke (most likely by different mothers as Thomas was about 22 when Julia was born and about 58 when John was born). Julia's son Mervyn was born when she was about 36 - in the same year as her younger brother.

In Jack's line two of the remaining three births are at about the age of 40, so that adds up; resulting in 'covering' another generation in Eugenie's family tree that varies between early/mid-20s to early/mid-thirties.
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Yes, the 2nd Earl of Leicester had two wives and 18 children.

#1 Juliana Whitbread (d. 1870), mother of 11 children including Julia Lady Powerscourt (the eldest)
#2 Hon. Georgiana Caroline Cavendish, mother of seven children including John (her fourth child and her husband's fifteenth)
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Wow, that's quite an age gap between Lady Julia Coke and her brother Hon. John Spencer Coke (most likely by different mothers as Thomas was about 22 when Julia was born and about 58 when John was born). Julia's son Mervyn was born when she was about 36 - in the same year as her younger brother.

In Jack's line two of the remaining three births are at about the age of 40, so that adds up; resulting in 'covering' another generation in Eugenie's family tree that varies between early/mid-20s to early/mid-thirties.
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Yes, the 2nd Earl of Leicester had two wives and 18 children.

#1 Juliana Whitbread (d. 1870), mother of 11 children including Julia Lady Powerscourt (the eldest)
#2 Hon. Georgiana Caroline Cavendish, mother of seven children including John (her fourth child and her husband's fifteenth)
Thanks for clarifying that - I spotted the big age gap as well and wondered if there was a second wife.
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The origins of the Brooksbank name lie with England's ancient Anglo-Saxon culture.
http://www.houseofnames.com/Brooksbank-family-crest
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Apparently it was too early in the morning for me.

I made a two corrections.

Cecil Calvert, 2nd Baltimore, Proprietor & founder of the colony of Maryland (1605-1675)
m. Anne Arundell (1615/6-1649) – Anne Arundel County in Maryland named for her
|
Charles Calvert, 3rd Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1637-1715)
m. Jane Lowe (1644-1693/4)
|
Benedict Calvert, 4th Baron Baltimore, Proprietor of Maryland (1679-1715)
m. Lady Charlotte Lee (1678-1721), granddaughter of Charles II & Barbara Villiers
|
Jane Calvert (1702-1778)
m. John Hyde
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Catherine Hyde (1745-1823)
m. Rev. Thomas Willis (d. 1789)
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Jane Caroline Willis (d. 1802)
m. Thomas Meyrick (1773-1837)
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Jane Sophia Meyrick (1801-1837)
m. St. John Chiverton Charlton (1799-1873)
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Sir Thomas Charlton Meyrick (born Charlton), 1st Baronet (1837-1921)
m. Mary Rhoda Hill (1838-1924)
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Brig.-Gen. Sir Frederick Charlton Meyrick, 2nd Baronet (1862-1932)
m. Mary Emma Baker Cresswell (1878-1970)
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Mary Cicely Meyrick (1899-1972)
m. Giles Fendall Newton (1891-1974)
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Capt. Michael Anthony Fendall Newton (1923-2006)
m. Joanna Katherine Holland (b. 1926)
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Nicola Joanna Newton (b. 1953)
m. George Edward Hugh Brooksbank (b. 1949)
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Jack Christopher Stamp Brooksbank (b. 1986)
Okay, I just really paid attention to this! I am from Maryland, I had no idea Jack was descended from the Calvert family. How totally exciting. Back in the day, the Calvert owned a lot of land in Maryland, some of which became the University of Maryland at College Park...my alma mater.

Okay..I am back...now back to your regularly scheduled programming. Thanks for this tidbit!
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Another article about Eugenie and Jack's shared ancestry:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...g-how-13393228

I should also point out that Diana, Princess of Wales and Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester were also descendants of Edward Lascelles.
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Another American connection for Jack Brooksbank. He's a direct descendant of John Glover of Boston, Massachusetts (1600-1653/4).

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc....8/IJfUGy6-AQAJ
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