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Because we're all very sad individuals who seem to value our hard earned money. How silly we are.
Also while I am on it, I am a sales trainer in a financial service company and our company has a $100 limit on spending on one of our clients in a year handed down by the law. That means in New York, that its almost impossible for our sales reps to get their fave clients Yankee tickets.
But there is a workaround. The $100 limit doesn't apply if our rep attends the game with them. So what do you think our guys do? They buy tickets for themselves and their clients and their clients families and they all enjoy the game.
So our reps are not going to Yankee games just because they want a free game onthe company money but its the only way to offer a perk to an important client without getting in trouble with the law.
I applaud Prince Andrew taking Beatrice to Egypt with him. Princess Beatrice will have to do her round of Royal Engagements after she finishes Uni anyway, and it is an ideal start of the learning curve for her. I honed skills with the public by observing my father do them - so why exactly are we being so hard on Beatrice???
Are you for real???? Comparing members of the BRF to skanky loser Britney Spears? I think you're on the wrong site. The Royals are more than just rich people. To many they represent an entire country/history/culture. They are not just "celebrities", though this younger generation seems to behave like them. You can't compare royalty to some actor/musician/businessman. It goes much deeper than that.I don't see why they need taxpayer money all the time...if they want to fly private...use your own money fools...that includes unnecessary bodyguards. Britney Spears doesn't even have one anymore...I think they can survive...
They're rich...sometimes they act like they're are just servants to the people.
I will repeat my argument about businessman v royal. If a listed company wastes it's shareholders money, the shareholders can vote the board out, freeze payments, put their money elsewhere. If an MP is seen to waste taxpayers money, he has to answer to the select committee and can be voted out. Andrew and his daughters, can't. Andrew is not bringing enough money in for the taxpayers to warrant his 'expenses'. He may be bringing extra money for individual companies, but not the taxpayer. Beatrice has enjoyed a nice little holiday at our expense and to try to placate the UK public with the sudden 'it's a training course', just shows the utter contempt Andrew and his team have for UK taxpayers.But a lot of companies do. I've worked in family-run companies and its staggering the waste that goes on. Some of the extra expense is charitable like escorting the son with multiple sclerosis of the retired CEO on a private first class jet from Berlin to Los Angeles to get the best medical care available as my first boss did. And this company was not a private family enterprise but the 3rd largest chemical company in Germany at the time.
However, one wonders if the son of someone not so important would deem the privilege of a first class flight and the best medical care available.
My personal belief is that once a country holds a royal prince up to a profit and loss balance sheet, then the country has no need for royal princes any more.
Why will she have to do a round of royal engagements, what if nobody is interested enough to invite her? What if 10 years down the line, she decides that she has no interest in doing anything for Uncle Charles? Will they then repay us? She hasn't exactly been honing her skills by sitting in on two short meetings iMO.I applaud Prince Andrew taking Beatrice to Egypt with him. Princess Beatrice will have to do her round of Royal Engagements after she finishes Uni anyway, and it is an ideal start of the learning curve for her. I honed skills with the public by observing my father do them - so why exactly are we being so hard on Beatrice???
The figures being quoted are just for Andrew, as you will have seen if you read the articles, by his own admission 500,000GBP this year.
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This makes it easy for critics to question whether the £500,000 bill that the taxpayer will have to foot for his UKTI work this year is value for money. "In terms of the return on investment to the UK, bearing in mind I am part of a number of people, I would suggest that £500,000 is cheap at the price," he says.
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Why will she have to do a round of royal engagements, what if nobody is interested enough to invite her? What if 10 years down the line, she decides that she has no interest in doing anything for Uncle Charles? Will they then repay us? She hasn't exactly been honing her skills by sitting in on two short meetings iMO.
We will have to agree to disagree on our interpretation of this - "the £500,000 bill that the taxpayer will have to foot for his UKTI work this year is value for money. "In terms of the return on investment to the UK, bearing in mind I am part of a number of people, I would suggest that £500,000 is cheap at the price," he says". - IF the £500,000 was for the team, it would say 'the UKTI work'.So it still refers to a 'team' not him individually. I still don't know where the 500,000 pounds comes from as it's not on the UK Trade and Investment audit which is online https://www.uktradeinvest.gov.uk/ukti/fileDownload/AnReportUkti2.pdf?cid=407359
£17.6 million (£15.9 million) was spent on funding customer-facing activity (International Trade Teams) delivering international trade support in the English regions. The budget for the year was £17.1 million. By utilising some of the savings from other programmes, it was possible to strengthen the regional customer-facing teams, who support business by advising
how trading internationally could help grow their business;
• £11.8 million (£13.1 million) was spent on sector specific export promotional activities in markets and sectors with strong potential for British business.
You are quite right, we can't look into the future, , but there is a very serious issue at stake here, one of trust. Andrew is showing that he has very little regard for the taxpayers of the UK. Most people if criticised for a certain type of behaviour, will try their utmost not to be seen doing the same thing again. Andrew certainly gives the appearance of a spoilt brat, doing what he wants and s*d what anyone thinks. In a house of cards, it only takes one to cause the pack to tumble. By taking Beatrice with him on this jolly, that just happens to include his favourite pastime, he is not showing her a work ethic but how easy it is to con the British public.Skydragon, come on... We can't look into the future. I as well have my serious doubts about that young lady from the way she is presented in the media so far (well, the media can only present what is there... and so far there is nothing but annoying infos.).
Plus that golf tournament in Abu Dhabi is speaking for itself. But still, give the girl a chance. This time at least she did something a bit positive for her future. And we won't know if there isn't another princess Alexandra in the making...
You are quite right, we can't look into the future, , but there is a very serious issue at stake here, one of trust. Andrew is showing that he has very little regard for the taxpayers of the UK. Most people if criticised for a certain type of behaviour, will try their utmost not to be seen doing the same thing again. Andrew certainly gives the appearance of a spoilt brat, doing what he wants and s*d what anyone thinks. In a house of cards, it only takes one to cause the pack to tumble. By taking Beatrice with him on this jolly, that just happens to include his favourite pastime, he is not showing her a work ethic but how easy it is to con the British public.
Most youngsters do something with their gap year, not hang out with mummy or daddy!
I don't feel it is a contradiction at all.Skydragon, I think you're contradicting yourself here. In previous posts you have stated that Andrew can not behave like other businessmen (who tend to make biz deals on the golf course, etc.) 'cuz he's a member of the RF and so forth and so on. You've said the same thing about the York girls - they are held to a higher standard because of who they are and the taxpayers who foot the bill for many of the priviledges they enjoy. Yet in the above statement, you're criticizing Beatrice for not doing what other kids her age do.
So which is it? Should the royals behave like the rest of us or should they not. Unfort. it seems they're pretty much damned if they do and damned if they don't. I wouldn't want to be in that prediciment.
I cut you short! The UKTI is financed by the taxpayer, no matter who is at the helm. HM receives money from the civil list, as does Philip and as such if HM chooses to give her son pocket money from the civil list allowance it is indeed up to her, but lets hope she doesn't request an increase. Employees of UKTI are classed as civil servants, the UKTI is a government department, exactly the same as 'work and pensions'. Therefore he is answerable, ultimately to the UK taxpayer.Andrew doesn't get paid from the Civil List, he gets paid by the Queen. His salary and business expense for his job as Special Representative gets paid by the UK Trade & Investment Board that sponsors the initiative. The UK Trade & Investment Board is funded by the government
If he has the position because he is a 'royal', then he must be sure to show that not only is he worth our payment to him, but that he is not abusing his position and only choosing the trips that include a tournament.
Well, I've been saying that Sarah "hangs out" far too often w her daughters and I agree that's not normal for anyone. However, I don't consider Pss B accompanying her father on a biz trip hanging out. At least that's never how I looked at it when I'd accompany my parents on business trips.I don't feel it is a contradiction at all.
I was highlighting the fact that most girls of Beatrices' age are out and about on their own, royal or not. It is unusual for a girl of 19 to 'hang out' with mummy or daddy, in or out of royal circles.
Andrew can make as many deals as he wants, wherever he wants, but it seems highly suspicious that of the many overseas trips arranged by the UKTI department, he only appears to attend those that specifically include a golf tournament.
It was interesting during the Meredith Vieira interview that he bragged about Eugenie's artistic abilities but he was more vague about Beatrice. They did show coverage of Beatrice travelling with him on an official visit, so maybe the idea is that Beatrice prefers that kind of life?