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Old 06-23-2015, 01:23 AM
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No, I don't think it is going to happen. Whether Charles stated such a thing or not I just have a feeling that the BRF will be a more slim-line operation in the next reign simply because that concept fits in better with the 21st century's expectations of royal families.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:29 AM
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In a time when royal families are under pressure from the media and those who do not appreciate their effect on the popular culture and their ability to bring revenue to their countries, Pr. Andrew's insistence on pushing his daughters to the fore shows little to no wisdom on his part for the future of Royal England. When stories get out such as the one from Ascot Ladies Day, it doesn't help the Queen, it doesn't help Andrew and it doesn't help Beatrice. Beatrice needs to get a really good job and work the way the lesser members of other royal families do.
I am reliably informed that when the carriage lists were drawn up they overlooked one of HM's personal preferences, there were three gentlemen in the first carriage and three women in the second. Since HM likes things as balanced as possible whenever possible, swaps were made. Two women, two men in each carriage. End of story.

I know it doesn't leave any room for claiming Andrew is pushing Beatrice I am aware that people will not accept such a simple scenario, so be it. However, I would love some examples of Prince Andrew's pushy activities.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:36 AM
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I am reliably informed that when the carriage lists were drawn up they overlooked one of HM's personal preferences, there were three gentlemen in the first carriage and three women in the second. Since HM likes things as balanced as possible whenever possible, swaps were made. Two women, two men in each carriage. End of story.

I know it doesn't leave any room for claiming Andrew is pushing Beatrice I am aware that people will not accept such a simple scenario, so be it. However, I would love some examples of Prince Andrew's pushy activities.

Could you tell us how you are " reliably informed "
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Old 06-23-2015, 03:31 AM
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It has been made clear that Beatrice and Eugenie are not needed to perform full time royal duties. There are already so many working royals, so they are unnecessary. Even William, Kate and Harry are doing relatively little in the way of royal engagements, and the York sisters will never have the same gravitas.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:32 AM
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It has been made clear that Beatrice and Eugenie are not needed to perform full time royal duties. There are already so many working royals, so they are unnecessary. Even William, Kate and Harry are doing relatively little in the way of royal engagements, and the York sisters will never have the same gravitas.

But, as has been mentioned, many working royals are elderly, and may stop working quite soon.

And the point is that the public expects Beatrice (all the RF really) to do something besides go to parties and take vacations.
At least she'd be accomplishing something worthwhile if she does official engagements. As things are now, her activities just generate criticism.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:40 AM
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I see no public appetite for Beatrice to be a working royal and at this stage if she did factor into the future plans of the family I think she would be mentioned more often in the CC to make the transition easier. The fact Beatrice's appearances are hardly ever mentioned in the CC leads me to believe she's not going to be a working royal at least not officially.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:14 PM
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It will be interesting to see what happens when the Queen and Philip stop working. The other royals may struggle to take on the same number of engagements. Even more so when the Queen's cousins are out of the picture. Perhaps the Kents and Gloucesters could retire now so the younger generation can get a head start.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:45 PM
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The Gloucester's are closer in age to Charles and Camilla than to the Queen so if they are to retire then it would make sense for people to start talking about Charles and Camilla, and even Anne to retire.


I don't see why anyone should have to retire so the younger royals can start stepping up. The younger royals have different interests anyway and could easily find things to do that are of interest to them, if they actually wanted to do so.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:34 PM
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I think we're more likely to see the Queen's cousins slowly retire as they get older than the Queen, DoE, Charles, Anne, or Camilla. I don't think it's something that will be done because they're pushed into it by others or to enable the younger generation to step up, but rather because I don't think we can expect to continue seeing people who are as removed from the mainline as they are and are retirement age to continue working for the BRF.

In contrast, I don't think we're likely to see the Queen or DoE retire unless their health forces them to - likewise with Charles and Anne. Whether or not Camilla is likely to one day retire I think will depend on her health, whether or not she outlives Charles, and if she does what kind of role she wants to have as a Dowager.

Much like with the Kents and Gloucesters now, I do think we could expect to see Andrew and the Wessexes retire in time.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:12 PM
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I don't think anybody is pushing any of the older royals to "retire" or cut back, but if they want to or need to, who would have a problem with it?

I can see William one day as king before George and Charlotte have completed their educations, or are young with families such as Will and Kate are now. So if you kick Beatrice and Eugenie to the curb now who is going to do all the duties? Will, Kate, Harry and perhaps his wife? Is that feasible? Or does this force George and Charlotte to take up duties at a far younger age - is this fair given the fact that Will is allowed as much time away from royal life as possible at this stage?

I have the feeling that King William is going to cut back on the public role of the BRF. As head of state, he will fulfill his governmental obligations, and there will be far less ribbon-cutting. It might even be a "part-time" royal family.
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:30 AM
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maybe i missed it earlier. But what happend to beatrices job in us. I remember reading about the palace heralding that there was a mad rush in corporate america for this supertalented overqualified (in finance, not art/thought) girl, and after considerable thought she finally blessed one company.
its been a few months. Has she joined? Or changed her mind or have they? Whats the present status
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:37 AM
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It was only ever an unsubstantiated DM story. And I think we all know what their current "hit rate" for accuracy is.
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IF, and that's a big if, recent DM report is to be believed, Beatrice is currently taking her 18th vacation of the year. With that kind of a work ethic, I can't imagine she can hold down a job, unless the employer just wants the royal name in its' organization chart. I can see if she takes a day off for a royal engagement but if she has gone on 18 vacations this year, that will legitimately be perceived as excessive.
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:26 AM
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What constitutes a 'vacation' though?


Some of these 'vacations' have actually been a weekend type affair and many young Brits are able to do that.


I have some friends and former students who are working in the UK as teachers but spend most weekends somewhere else in Europe. Does that mean they are taking a vacation every week? If Beatrice is simply going somewhere for the weekend that to me isn't a 'vacation' but something many other people are able to do. If she is going away for more than a weekend then we have to look at the working conditions of her company e.g. is she working shifts or flexi hours that allow her to accumulate extra days off or is she in the standard 9 - 5 Monday to Friday type job which doesn't make it easy to do those longer weekends away.
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:39 AM
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I don't know what to think or to say about this to be honest... I think that I will wait for the summer to be over before expressing myself... All royal families seem to be on vacation now, and who knows, maybe Beatrice's new job is going to start in the fall... Judgement suspended at the moment...
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:48 AM
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Is that the new job she supposedly got back in March? I don't believe for a second it exists. A lot of her vacations have been more then 2 days if you look at her track record she always seems to be jobless for several months always including a Summer she left work back in December and she took holidays with that job and she hadn't even been there a year. So we are into August it's 8 months and counting and going by her love of holidays it is going to awhile before she bothers to do anything much. Probably another internship cause you know she has no idea what she wants to do which actually seems to be going on holidays! At least be honest about it.
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Old 08-08-2015, 09:39 AM
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Well, she can do it. Lucky girl.
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Old 08-08-2015, 09:47 AM
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What constitutes a 'vacation' though?


Some of these 'vacations' have actually been a weekend type affair and many young Brits are able to do that.


I have some friends and former students who are working in the UK as teachers but spend most weekends somewhere else in Europe. Does that mean they are taking a vacation every week? If Beatrice is simply going somewhere for the weekend that to me isn't a 'vacation' but something many other people are able to do. If she is going away for more than a weekend then we have to look at the working conditions of her company e.g. is she working shifts or flexi hours that allow her to accumulate extra days off or is she in the standard 9 - 5 Monday to Friday type job which doesn't make it easy to do those longer weekends away.
I agree with this 100%. In the UK having a weekend away is not unusual and neither is "popping over" to mainland Europe. I certainly did that regularly at her age and in fact Im popping over to Amsterdam for a few days at the end of this month.
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Rebecca English of the DM posted on Twitter that Beatrice started in a new job with a private equity firm in NY.

Maybe it a job where you can do it on computer but if not and she has to be in NY than its not a quick pop over to the continent from London but a multi hour flight over the Atlantic. There isn't a U.S. holiday until September and the vacation policies of companies in the U.S. are pretty bad - you don't get any when you start and have to work a year to get a week.


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So the Beatrice now going another vacation after a year?
And only a week? I don't think so she stay a lot to this job
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